[opensuse-factory] Cannot upgrade Beta5
Until this morning (my time, Eastern Australia) zypper had no problems with checking for new upgrades but now it keeps "hanging" when it is checking: http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/[oss][non-oss] Have I missed some announcement which would affect this URL? Ciao. -- Understanding only begins with the act of perception. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2008/11/21 14:33 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:
Until this morning (my time, Eastern Australia) zypper had no problems with checking for new upgrades but now it keeps "hanging" when it is checking:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/[oss][non-oss]
Have I missed some announcement which would affect this URL?
Bad timing I think. The round robin of mirrors are probably out of sync while the latest rebuilt packages are syncing out. I was having to manually retry about 1 out of every 3 packages a few minutes ago, so I aborted zypper and switched to using Smart on a unique mirror. -- "Love is not easily angered. Love does not demand its own way." 1 Corinthians 13:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2008/11/21 14:33 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:
Until this morning (my time, Eastern Australia) zypper had no problems with checking for new upgrades but now it keeps "hanging" when it is checking:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/[oss][non-oss]
Have I missed some announcement which would affect this URL?
Bad timing I think. The round robin of mirrors are probably out of sync while the latest rebuilt packages are syncing out. I was having to manually retry about 1 out of every 3 packages a few minutes ago, so I aborted zypper and switched to using Smart on a unique mirror.
Thanks for the response, but the problem is bigger than it appears: there is no such URL as the one I quoted above :-( . Try to type the URL using a web browser and there is no such URL. Ciao. -- Understanding only begins with the act of perception. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2008/11/21 15:59 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2008/11/21 14:33 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:
Until this morning (my time, Eastern Australia) zypper had no problems with checking for new upgrades but now it keeps "hanging" when it is checking:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/[oss][non-oss]
Have I missed some announcement which would affect this URL?
Bad timing I think. The round robin of mirrors are probably out of sync while the latest rebuilt packages are syncing out. I was having to manually retry about 1 out of every 3 packages a few minutes ago, so I aborted zypper and switched to using Smart on a unique mirror.
Thanks for the response, but the problem is bigger than it appears: there is no such URL as the one I quoted above :-( .
Try to type the URL using a web browser and there is no such URL.
Sorry for not looking close enough. That happened to me on another system earlier. I opened YaST2 repositories, corrected the broken URLs, then restarted zypper dup. My previous response still applies even now. After Smart finished, I tried zypper dup again, which found another 142 new packages. I've still had to retry on at least 1 out of every 3 packages needed, and am now down to 9 remaining while suffering through https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=447142 . -- "Love is not easily angered. Love does not demand its own way." 1 Corinthians 13:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2008/11/21 15:59 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
On 2008/11/21 14:33 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:
Until this morning (my time, Eastern Australia) zypper had no problems with checking for new upgrades but now it keeps "hanging" when it is checking:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/[oss][non-oss]
Have I missed some announcement which would affect this URL?
Bad timing I think. The round robin of mirrors are probably out of sync while the latest rebuilt packages are syncing out. I was having to manually retry about 1 out of every 3 packages a few minutes ago, so I aborted zypper and switched to using Smart on a unique mirror.
Thanks for the response, but the problem is bigger than it appears: there is no such URL as the one I quoted above :-( .
Try to type the URL using a web browser and there is no such URL.
Sorry for not looking close enough.
Is OK.
That happened to me on another system earlier. I opened YaST2 repositories, corrected the broken URLs, then restarted zypper dup.
My previous response still applies even now. After Smart finished,
Could you please send me a copy of the URLs used by smart for 11.1 Beta5? I thought that zypper was now efficient and stopped using smart but it now appears that I was wrong. So, I would appreciate the list (you use) used by smart. Ciao. -- Understanding only begins with the act of perception. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2008/11/21 17:34 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:
Felix Miata wrote:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/[oss][non-oss]
Same Factory as day and week and month before: http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/[oss][non-oss] and when download.opensuse.org aka widehat.opensuse.org seems broken, e.g.: http://ftp5.gwdg.de/pub/opensuse/distribution/11.1/repo/[oss][non-oss] http://mirrors.kernel.org/opensuse/factory/repo/[oss][non-oss]
My previous response still applies even now. After Smart finished,
Could you please send me a copy of the URLs used by smart for 11.1 Beta5?
I thought that zypper was now efficient and stopped using smart but it now appears that I was wrong. So, I would appreciate the list (you use) used by smart.
I wish zypper config was as easy to quick change via mc as Smart config, in the /etc/ tree, where system config files belong. -- "Love is not easily angered. Love does not demand its own way." 1 Corinthians 13:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Freitag 21 November 2008 schrieb Felix Miata:
I wish zypper config was as easy to quick change via mc as Smart config, in the /etc/ tree, where system config files belong.
You really did your homework and checked /etc/zypp, no? Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Freitag 21 November 2008 schrieb Felix Miata:
I wish zypper config was as easy to quick change via mc as Smart config, in the /etc/ tree, where system config files belong.
You really did your homework and checked /etc/zypp, no?
Greetings, Stephan
Aha, so that's where the little blighters are hiding! :-) Thanks for the tip. Ciao. -- Once, in the wilds of Afghanistan, I lost my corkscrew and we were forced to live on nothing but food and water for days. W C Fields. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2008/11/21 11:46 (GMT+0100) Stephan Kulow composed:
Am Freitag 21 November 2008 schrieb Felix Miata:
I wish zypper config was as easy to quick change via mc as Smart config, in the /etc/ tree, where system config files belong.
You really did your homework and checked /etc/zypp, no?
I didn't think it as simple as it looks. AFAIK, YaST*, with AFAIK 0 repository config files in /etc, predates zypp(er?) by a bunch of years, and I have no idea how the interplay between them works. As a result, I've always used YaST to configure the primary (non-Smart) repositories, even though I rarely ever use any form of YaST for updating anything. With that as context, it's not obvious just from looking in /etc what regarding repos in /etc is safe to change or not, particularly since zypper is the tool I use, not YaST*, and not zypp, for doing updates. -- "Love is not easily angered. Love does not demand its own way." 1 Corinthians 13:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Sun, Nov 23, 2008 at 04:59:58PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2008/11/21 11:46 (GMT+0100) Stephan Kulow composed:
Am Freitag 21 November 2008 schrieb Felix Miata:
I wish zypper config was as easy to quick change via mc as Smart config, in the /etc/ tree, where system config files belong.
You really did your homework and checked /etc/zypp, no?
I didn't think it as simple as it looks. AFAIK, YaST*, with AFAIK 0 repository config files in /etc, predates zypp(er?) by a bunch of years, and I have no idea how the interplay between them works. As a result, I've always used YaST to configure the primary (non-Smart) repositories, even though I rarely ever use any form of YaST for updating anything. With that as context, it's not obvious just from looking in /etc what regarding repos in /etc is safe to change or not, particularly since zypper is the tool I use, not YaST*, and not zypp, for doing updates.
YAST2 uses libzypp, same as zypper. So YaST uses /etc/zypp/ for the repository configuration too. Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2008/11/23 23:03 (GMT+0100) Marcus Meissner composed:
YAST2 uses libzypp, same as zypper. So YaST uses /etc/zypp/ for the repository configuration too.
That hasn't always been the case - my 10.2 server has no /etc/zypp dir. I missed whatever change point and announcement(s) there may have been about the conversion from whatever YaST used to do. -- "Love is not easily angered. Love does not demand its own way." 1 Corinthians 13:5 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Basil Chupin escribió:
I thought that zypper was now efficient and stopped using smart but it now appears that I was wrong. So, I would appreciate the list (you use) used by smart.
What makes you think this problem has to do with zypper ? -- "We have art in order not to die of the truth" - Friedrich Nietzsche Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Basil Chupin escribió:
I thought that zypper was now efficient and stopped using smart but it now appears that I was wrong. So, I would appreciate the list (you use) used by smart.
What makes you think this problem has to do with zypper ?
Because I am not using smart? Ciao. -- Once, in the wilds of Afghanistan, I lost my corkscrew and we were forced to live on nothing but food and water for days. W C Fields. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Felix Miata escribió:
The round robin of mirrors
There is no such thing, it is **much** more complex ;-) -- "We have art in order not to die of the truth" - Friedrich Nietzsche Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
Felix Miata escribió:
The round robin of mirrors
There is no such thing, it is **much** more complex ;-)
And this "**much** more complex" is to be interpreted to mean....what exactly? Ciao. -- Understanding only begins with the act of perception. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
is to be interpreted to mean....what exactly?
see https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/opensuse/trunk/tools/download-redirector-v2... -- "We have art in order not to die of the truth" - Friedrich Nietzsche Cristian Rodríguez R. Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/
Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
is to be interpreted to mean....what exactly?
see https://forgesvn1.novell.com/svn/opensuse/trunk/tools/download-redirector-v2...
<Slaps forehead hard with hand> Of course! Why didn't I look there to see the answer to my problem?! Stupid me :-( . OK, so my memory banks came up with the info. that there was a change to some --but which ones? - URLs to /factory/ so I altered the above URL in my message to read download/opensuse.org/factory/repo/[non-oss][oss] which produced the effect that I had some 1018 upgrades to Beta5 to be performed - with, from what I saw, many files to be downgraded. So I told zypper to go and play in the traffic. Now, I am not able in any shape or form to edit the Repositories list back to read "....../distribution/11.1/repo/..." -- no way. Really cute, this. So, do I wait until someone, at some stage, gets the "redirecter" fixed so that I can get back to the 'normal' Beta5 installation? Ciao. -- Understanding only begins with the act of perception. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Freitag 21 November 2008 schrieb Basil Chupin:
OK, so my memory banks came up with the info. that there was a change to some --but which ones? - URLs to /factory/ so I altered the above URL in my message to read download/opensuse.org/factory/repo/[non-oss][oss] which produced the effect that I had some 1018 upgrades to Beta5 to be performed - with, from what I saw, many files to be downgraded. So I told zypper to go and play in the traffic.
Yeah, well factory is factory and 11.1/repo is beta5 - and the problem has nothing to do with zypper, it's simply a dead server. Verify with: ping widehat.opensuse.org Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 21 November 2008 01:17:53 am Stephan Kulow wrote: ...
Yeah, well factory is factory and 11.1/repo is beta5 - and the problem has nothing to do with zypper, it's simply a dead server. Verify with: ping widehat.opensuse.org
It seems to be up now, at least for ping. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Freitag 21 November 2008 schrieb Basil Chupin:
OK, so my memory banks came up with the info. that there was a change to some --but which ones? - URLs to /factory/ so I altered the above URL in my message to read download/opensuse.org/factory/repo/[non-oss][oss] which produced the effect that I had some 1018 upgrades to Beta5 to be performed - with, from what I saw, many files to be downgraded. So I told zypper to go and play in the traffic.
Yeah, well factory is factory and 11.1/repo is beta5 - and the problem has nothing to do with zypper, it's simply a dead server. Verify with: ping widehat.opensuse.org
Greetings, Stephan
Thanks for this. The server came back up the following day and all was well after that. Ciao. -- Once, in the wilds of Afghanistan, I lost my corkscrew and we were forced to live on nothing but food and water for days. W C Fields. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Freitag 21 November 2008 schrieb Felix Miata:
On 2008/11/21 14:33 (GMT+1100) Basil Chupin composed:
Until this morning (my time, Eastern Australia) zypper had no problems with checking for new upgrades but now it keeps "hanging" when it is checking:
http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/[oss][non-oss]
Have I missed some announcement which would affect this URL?
Bad timing I think. The round robin of mirrors are probably out of sync while the latest rebuilt packages are syncing out. I was having to manually
There is no round robin for distribution/11.1/ - it's simply widehat.opensuse.org and that host seems dead (again ;( Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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