On Thursday 2013-01-10 01:02, Jan Engelhardt wrote:

On Wednesday 2013-01-09 21:31, Fuminobu TAKEYAMA wrote:

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I would like to submit a new package named mozc and its dependent packages, zinnia, zinnia-tomoe.

Mozc is a Japanese input method engine developed by Google.

面白い。 It still feels a bit strange at times, though. As someone who has used Anthy so far, the big difference I see is that Anthy could be configured to not show a selection box until Space has been hit twice, i.e. http://inai.de/files/anthy.ogv . (Not that that's a reason to delay its inclusion.)

The option does indeed exist in mozc as well, but has unfortunate naming "Temporarily disable all suggestions" - and is similarly unfortunately placed under "Privacy". -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Thursday 2013-01-10 18:24, Fuminobu TAKEYAMA wrote:

Thank you for fixing the packages in M17N!

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The option does indeed exist in mozc as well, but has unfortunate naming "Temporarily disable all suggestions" - and is similarly unfortunately placed under "Privacy".

Also you can turn it off by unchecking all options in "Suggest" tab. But this feature is useful to input long frequently-typed words.

Another interesting feature: Let's type "kyou" and space. We can input time stamp!

There are more easter eggs. Type "google" and the completion goes like: ｇ ご ごお ごおｇ ごおｇｌ google (Instead of falling going by the book and producing ごおｇぇ) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Unfortunately, it has not been accepted due to a license problem of fcitx-mozc. A option is changing the license of the whole package of mozc from BSD-3 to GPL-v2+. But we need consider side effects caused by changing the license. Since mozc is not a library, I guess it will not cause a critical problem. Fuminobu TAKEYAMA 2013/1/11 Marguerite Su :

Congrats，ftake.

finally ja community got a good Ime by default.

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在 2013-1-10，上午4:31，Fuminobu TAKEYAMA 写道：

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Hi all,

I would like to submit a new package named mozc and its dependent packages, zinnia, zinnia-tomoe.

Mozc is a Japanese input method engine developed by Google. It is becoming a de facto standard in Linux community because it provides more precise conversion and it seems that the previous standard engine, Anthy, is not maintained recently. Zinnia and zinnia-tomoe provide hand-writing recognition for mozc.

# Input method engine is essential especially for CJK users. # Without it, we cannot input letters used in those countries.

The package of Mozc have been incubated for more than a year in the M17N project. Now many people uses this package. However, it is not desirable to ask continuously all Japanese users to install it from M17N, which is a devel project for other packages.

There is a problem in development process by the upstream. The upstream, Google, currently would not accept any patches written in a programming language since Mozc is a part of their proprietary product. Our package, thereby, contains a big patch to support Fcitx. This upstream's policy might cause difficulty of maintenance.

Through discussion in the opensuse-ja list, we think the benefit from shipping it with openSUSE is much bigger than the risk of maintainability.

I am sorry for a late proposal. I hope Mozc will be shipped with openSUSE 12.3. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Hi, I asked the author of fcitx-mozc to change its license and then this problem have been resolved. Now, these packages are in Factory! Thanks a lot! Fuminobu TAKEYAMA (2013/01/17 2:45), Marguerite Su wrote:

On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:35 PM, Fuminobu TAKEYAMA wrote:

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Unfortunately, it has not been accepted due to a license problem of fcitx-mozc.

A option is changing the license of the whole package of mozc from BSD-3 to GPL-v2+. But we need consider side effects caused by changing the license.

Since mozc is not a library, I guess it will not cause a critical problem.

Fuminobu TAKEYAMA

Sorry ftake, your reply appeared in my spam box.

Can you show me the declined SR so I can figure out why fcitx-mozc has a license problem?

I think it'll be easy to change the license of fcitx-mozc other than mozc itself.

Because mozc is explicitly licensed under BSD-3 (https://code.google.com/p/mozc)

But after sending email to fcitx developers, you can change fcitx-mozc's license to _any_.

Marguerite

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