On 05/14/2013 09:38 AM, Michal Vyskocil pecked at the keyboard and wrote:

On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 01:42:34PM +0200, Stephan Kulow wrote:

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Hi,

It's about time we start releasing milestones again, so I would like to finish one this week (being on vaction next and last week :)

Factory doesn't look *that* good, but not that bad either, so I would like to release what we have after fixing some evil bugs (like missing X drivers on installation media).

Just to let you know why I'm only looking at specific packages and leave your package uncommited.

The roadmap would look like this:

16.5 - M1 13.6 - M2 11.7 - M3 8.8 - M4 19.9 - B1 10.10 - RC1 31.10 - RC2 8.11 - GMC

Greetings, Stephan P.S. 13.1's codename is Bottle (green)

OT: and this sounds like an excelent time to change the Shades of Green scheme in favor of German-Breweries scheme.

I'll drink to that. :-) -- Ken Schneider SuSe since Version 5.2, June 1998 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Quoting Stephan Kulow :

On 15.05.2013 09:16, Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar wrote:

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Quoting Stephan Kulow :

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Hi,

The roadmap would look like this:

16.5 - M1 13.6 - M2 11.7 - M3 8.8 - M4 19.9 - B1 10.10 - RC1 31.10 - RC2 8.11 - GMC

Thank you very much for your restless work Stephan!

One initial comment / point for discussion springs to mind when looking at this schedule: - The release / integration of GNOME 3.10

GNOME 3.10 is scheduled for release on September 25th (3.10.1 on Oct 16, where 3.10.1 is pure bugfix over 3.10).

The timelines look realistic for us to actually ship 13.1 with 3.10.1, do you agree?

This would mean: up to B1 we bring GNOME up to 3.9.91 (we likely won't have the time to bring 3.9.92, aka RC2 in, as the release is scheduled for 18. Sept).

Then between B1 and RC1, we update to GNOME 3.10.

If possible, between RC1 and RC2 we should upgrade to 3.10.1 (bugfixing) to eliminate a good bunch of known bugs prior to the release...

and after RC2 there is 'no touching' (of versions).

Realistic?

Sounds good to me if GNOME 3.10 betas are stable enough for testing. If not, we should take the easy way out.

Generally, they surely are... and by 3.9.91 is after all RC material already on GNOME. So, that's a plan then.. we'll keep 3.10.1 as the target for openSUSE 13.1. I'll try to submit 3.9.x packages as early as possible (as they arrive and had some testing), to identify potential conflicts (from the usual deprecations) as early as possible. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org