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Jos Poortvliet

9 Nov 2011 9 Nov '11

12:58

Hey all, Today is your last chance to get changes in openSUSE mentioned in the Product Highlights and the release announcement. Tonight I will begin to move them to the wiki and write the first draft of the release announcement. Tomorrow the announcement as well as the Highlights will be send to the press so they can prepare for their articles. Any major changes not mentioned in our documentation by that time will thus not be featured in their work. So, if one or more of the updates you've done is really significant - make sure it is mentioned in the Product Highlights. If it represents a major deal, mention that and explain what's cool, it might make it into the announcement itself :D The page below is like a wiki, except that you don't need to know wiki syntax or anything else, just go in and edit. It has a history slider and we will review the text so don't be afraid of making mistakes. http://ietherpad.com/12-1-release-notes Usually, a name + version number and a link to where I can find an overview of what's new & cool is enough (we'll write the text) but of course you can help us a lot by writing a short summary yourself. Thanks! The marketeers

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Ilya Chernykh

9 Nov 9 Nov

13:25

On Wednesday 09 November 2011 16:58:17 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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The page below is like a wiki, except that you don't need to know wiki syntax or anything else, just go in and edit. It has a history slider and we will review the text so don't be afraid of making mistakes.

http://ietherpad.com/12-1-release-notes

Usually, a name + version number and a link to where I can find an overview of what's new & cool is enough (we'll write the text) but of course you can help us a lot by writing a short summary yourself.

Seems Etherpad does not support Mozilla well. I cannot edit anything now (suggests to reconnect after each letter), but it seems some people edit my changes and introduce incorrect statements. I removed them several times, but they get inserted again. 1) KDE3 is available from the official repo in 12.1, at least how it goes in RC2, so please do not re-insert that it is available from unofficial KDE:KDE3 repository. Only additional software can be installed from there. 2) We ship KDE3, not Trinity, so please stop praising Trinity for this achievement. KDE3 has alway been available for openSUSE, and there is no special merit of Trinity in it. We took two or three minor patches of questionable value from them as well as from other sources (Chakra, Alt Linux), but there is no reason to praise solely Trinity for having KDE 3 in openSUSE. I tried to remove these but somebody returns both statements back. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Jos Poortvliet

17:17

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:

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On Wednesday 09 November 2011 16:58:17 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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The page below is like a wiki, except that you don't need to know wiki syntax or anything else, just go in and edit. It has a history slider and we will review the text so don't be afraid of making mistakes.

http://ietherpad.com/12-1-release-notes

Usually, a name + version number and a link to where I can find an overview of what's new & cool is enough (we'll write the text) but of course you can help us a lot by writing a short summary yourself.

Seems Etherpad does not support Mozilla well. I cannot edit anything now (suggests to reconnect after each letter), but it seems some people edit my changes and introduce incorrect statements. I removed them several times, but they get inserted again.

1) KDE3 is available from the official repo in 12.1, at least how it goes in RC2, so please do not re-insert that it is available from unofficial KDE:KDE3 repository. Only additional software can be installed from there.

2) We ship KDE3, not Trinity, so please stop praising Trinity for this achievement. KDE3 has alway been available for openSUSE, and there is no special merit of Trinity in it. We took two or three minor patches of questionable value from them as well as from other sources (Chakra, Alt Linux), but there is no reason to praise solely Trinity for having KDE 3 in openSUSE.

I tried to remove these but somebody returns both statements back.

No, this is because ietherpad is horribly unstable. too many people editing at once, random offline etcetera. Unfortunately it is the most stable of the 'free' etherpad installs on the web. I've been kicking people for ages about an etherpad installation on openSUSE infrastructure but despite efforts from a few ppl (there's now a nice etherpad image on SUSE Studio for example) it never happened. Now we get bitten by it and yes, there's no time to fix it. Yes, it is deeply annoying. Yes, it hurts our marketing efforts. Sorry. /me is quite frustrated about this

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Per Jessen

17:37

Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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No, this is because ietherpad is horribly unstable. too many people editing at once, random offline etcetera. Unfortunately it is the most stable of the 'free' etherpad installs on the web.

I've been kicking people for ages about an etherpad installation on openSUSE infrastructure but despite efforts from a few ppl (there's now a nice etherpad image on SUSE Studio for example) it never happened.

Now we get bitten by it and yes, there's no time to fix it. Yes, it is deeply annoying. Yes, it hurts our marketing efforts.

Joos, do you know what the key issue is - hardware and connectivity? I imagine we have quite a few people who could help with that - I certainly could, but I haven't heard of this issue until now. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.6°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Jos Poortvliet

17:42

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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No, this is because ietherpad is horribly unstable. too many people editing at once, random offline etcetera. Unfortunately it is the most stable of the 'free' etherpad installs on the web.

I've been kicking people for ages about an etherpad installation on openSUSE infrastructure but despite efforts from a few ppl (there's now a nice etherpad image on SUSE Studio for example) it never happened.

Now we get bitten by it and yes, there's no time to fix it. Yes, it is deeply annoying. Yes, it hurts our marketing efforts.

Joos, do you know what the key issue is - hardware and connectivity? I imagine we have quite a few people who could help with that - I certainly could, but I haven't heard of this issue until now.

Go ahead. See https://features.opensuse.org/310652 But for now, if you have time, spend them on the release notes pls. It's too late to solve this now and they still need quite some work. Feel like writing for example this section: Desktop Publish Graphics apps dia 0.97.1 GIMP 2.6.11 Scribus 1.4.0.rc5-6.3 Inkscape 0.48.2-1.6 Blender 2.59-1.2 Lots of ICC Profiles, ready to install and use http://ietherpad.com/12-1-release-notes quick how-to: Look up the version we shipped in 11.4: http://en.opensuse.org/11.4_Package_list and what we ship now: http://en.opensuse.org/12.1_Package_list Then look up the announcements from the projects and give a 1 paragraph summary per app. If graphics isn't your thing, there is webserver, security, cloud, IDE, developer tools & platform and anything else that's missing. Thanks, Jos

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Per Jessen

17:57

Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:37 PM, Per Jessen wrote:

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Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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No, this is because ietherpad is horribly unstable. too many people editing at once, random offline etcetera. Unfortunately it is the most stable of the 'free' etherpad installs on the web.

I've been kicking people for ages about an etherpad installation on openSUSE infrastructure but despite efforts from a few ppl (there's now a nice etherpad image on SUSE Studio for example) it never happened.

Now we get bitten by it and yes, there's no time to fix it. Yes, it is deeply annoying. Yes, it hurts our marketing efforts.

Joos, do you know what the key issue is - hardware and connectivity? I imagine we have quite a few people who could help with that - I certainly could, but I haven't heard of this issue until now.

Go ahead. See https://features.opensuse.org/310652

But for now, if you have time, spend them on the release notes pls.

Yup. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (7.6°C) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Jos Poortvliet

17:38

On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 3:17 PM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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/me is quite frustrated about this

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jdd

18:00

Le 09/11/2011 18:17, Jos Poortvliet a écrit :

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No, this is because ietherpad is horribly unstable. too many people editing at once, random offline etcetera. Unfortunately it is the most stable of the 'free' etherpad installs on the web.

hopefully we may have our own etherpad lite session soon after 12.1 launch???

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Now we get bitten by it and yes, there's no time to fix it. Yes, it is deeply annoying. Yes, it hurts our marketing efforts.

really we should mesure the way we did since 11.4! really a good trip. Not all works, but I'm confident we are to progress again jdd -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Roger Luedecke

18:35

On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 09:17:03 AM Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:

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On Wednesday 09 November 2011 16:58:17 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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The page below is like a wiki, except that you don't need to know wiki syntax or anything else, just go in and edit. It has a history slider and we will review the text so don't be afraid of making mistakes.

http://ietherpad.com/12-1-release-notes

Usually, a name + version number and a link to where I can find an overview of what's new & cool is enough (we'll write the text) but of course you can help us a lot by writing a short summary yourself.

Seems Etherpad does not support Mozilla well. I cannot edit anything now (suggests to reconnect after each letter), but it seems some people edit my changes and introduce incorrect statements. I removed them several times, but they get inserted again.

1) KDE3 is available from the official repo in 12.1, at least how it goes in RC2, so please do not re-insert that it is available from unofficial KDE:KDE3 repository. Only additional software can be installed from there.

2) We ship KDE3, not Trinity, so please stop praising Trinity for this achievement. KDE3 has alway been available for openSUSE, and there is no special merit of Trinity in it. We took two or three minor patches of questionable value from them as well as from other sources (Chakra, Alt Linux), but there is no reason to praise solely Trinity for having KDE 3 in openSUSE.

I tried to remove these but somebody returns both statements back.

No, this is because ietherpad is horribly unstable. too many people editing at once, random offline etcetera. Unfortunately it is the most stable of the 'free' etherpad installs on the web.

I've been kicking people for ages about an etherpad installation on openSUSE infrastructure but despite efforts from a few ppl (there's now a nice etherpad image on SUSE Studio for example) it never happened.

Now we get bitten by it and yes, there's no time to fix it. Yes, it is deeply annoying. Yes, it hurts our marketing efforts.

Sorry.

/me is quite frustrated about this

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-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org We could use Kablink. It has real time collaboration and can even tie in to Google Wave. Hell, why not use Wave instead? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Steven Sroka

20:10

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On 9 November 2011 13:35, Roger Luedecke wrote: On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 09:17:03 AM Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:

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On Wednesday 09 November 2011 16:58:17 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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The page below is like a wiki, except that you don't need to know wiki syntax or anything else, just go in and edit. It has a history slider and we will review the text so don't be afraid of making mistakes.

http://ietherpad.com/12-1-release-notes

Usually, a name + version number and a link to where I can find an overview of what's new & cool is enough (we'll write the text) but of course you can help us a lot by writing a short summary yourself.

Seems Etherpad does not support Mozilla well. I cannot edit anything now (suggests to reconnect after each letter), but it seems some people edit my changes and introduce incorrect statements. I removed them several times, but they get inserted again.

1) KDE3 is available from the official repo in 12.1, at least how it goes in RC2, so please do not re-insert that it is available from unofficial KDE:KDE3 repository. Only additional software can be installed from there.

2) We ship KDE3, not Trinity, so please stop praising Trinity for this achievement. KDE3 has alway been available for openSUSE, and there is no special merit of Trinity in it. We took two or three minor patches of questionable value from them as well as from other sources (Chakra, Alt Linux), but there is no reason to praise solely Trinity for having KDE 3 in openSUSE.

I tried to remove these but somebody returns both statements back.

No, this is because ietherpad is horribly unstable. too many people editing at once, random offline etcetera. Unfortunately it is the most stable of the 'free' etherpad installs on the web.

I've been kicking people for ages about an etherpad installation on openSUSE infrastructure but despite efforts from a few ppl (there's now a nice etherpad image on SUSE Studio for example) it never happened.

Now we get bitten by it and yes, there's no time to fix it. Yes, it is deeply annoying. Yes, it hurts our marketing efforts.

Sorry.

/me is quite frustrated about this

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-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org We could use Kablink. It has real time collaboration and can even tie in to Google Wave. Hell, why not use Wave instead?

Wave is dead. http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/04/wave-goodbye-to-google-wave/ I don't know about Kablink though.

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Roger Luedecke

21:14

On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 12:10:39 PM you wrote:

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On 9 November 2011 13:35, Roger Luedecke wrote: On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 09:17:03 AM Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:

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On Wednesday 09 November 2011 16:58:17 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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The page below is like a wiki, except that you don't need to know wiki syntax or anything else, just go in and edit. It has a history slider and we will review the text so don't be afraid of making mistakes.

http://ietherpad.com/12-1-release-notes

Usually, a name + version number and a link to where I can find an overview of what's new & cool is enough (we'll write the text) but of course you can help us a lot by writing a short summary yourself.

Seems Etherpad does not support Mozilla well. I cannot edit anything now (suggests to reconnect after each letter), but it seems some people edit my changes and introduce incorrect statements. I removed them several times, but they get inserted again.

1) KDE3 is available from the official repo in 12.1, at least how it goes in RC2, so please do not re-insert that it is available from unofficial KDE:KDE3 repository. Only additional software can be installed from there.

2) We ship KDE3, not Trinity, so please stop praising Trinity for this achievement. KDE3 has alway been available for openSUSE, and there is no special merit of Trinity in it. We took two or three minor patches of questionable value from them as well as from other sources (Chakra, Alt Linux), but there is no reason to praise solely Trinity for having KDE 3 in openSUSE.

I tried to remove these but somebody returns both statements back.

No, this is because ietherpad is horribly unstable. too many people editing at once, random offline etcetera. Unfortunately it is the most stable of the 'free' etherpad installs on the web.

I've been kicking people for ages about an etherpad installation on openSUSE infrastructure but despite efforts from a few ppl (there's now a nice etherpad image on SUSE Studio for example) it never happened.

Now we get bitten by it and yes, there's no time to fix it. Yes, it is deeply annoying. Yes, it hurts our marketing efforts.

Sorry.

/me is quite frustrated about this

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We could use Kablink. It has real time collaboration and can even tie in to Google Wave. Hell, why not use Wave instead?

Wave is dead. http://techcrunch.com/2010/08/04/wave-goodbye-to-google-wave/

I don't know about Kablink though.

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Lars Vogdt

15 Nov 15 Nov

13:10

Hi Sorry if its too late, but is there a list of applications like icinga that are included in openSUSE (12.1) for the first time? Regards, Lars -- Lars Vogdt - OPS Engineering Services Teamlead - SUSE Linux Products GmbH - GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Immendörfer Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany - HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Andreas Jaeger

13:19

On Tuesday, November 15, 2011 14:10:09 Lars Vogdt wrote:

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Hi

Sorry if its too late, but is there a list of applications like icinga that are included in openSUSE (12.1) for the first time?

I suggest to point this out in the appropriate section. And it's a wiki, just add information about icinga, please. Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Jos Poortvliet

10 Nov 10 Nov

19:06

On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 10:35:26 Roger Luedecke wrote:

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On Wednesday, November 09, 2011 09:17:03 AM Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Wed, Nov 9, 2011 at 11:25 AM, Ilya Chernykh wrote:

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On Wednesday 09 November 2011 16:58:17 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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The page below is like a wiki, except that you don't need to know wiki syntax or anything else, just go in and edit. It has a history slider and we will review the text so don't be afraid of making mistakes.

http://ietherpad.com/12-1-release-notes

Usually, a name + version number and a link to where I can find an overview of what's new & cool is enough (we'll write the text) but of course you can help us a lot by writing a short summary yourself.

Seems Etherpad does not support Mozilla well. I cannot edit anything now (suggests to reconnect after each letter), but it seems some people edit my changes and introduce incorrect statements. I removed them several times, but they get inserted again.

1) KDE3 is available from the official repo in 12.1, at least how it goes in RC2, so please do not re-insert that it is available from unofficial KDE:KDE3 repository. Only additional software can be installed from there.

2) We ship KDE3, not Trinity, so please stop praising Trinity for this achievement. KDE3 has alway been available for openSUSE, and there is no special merit of Trinity in it. We took two or three minor patches of questionable value from them as well as from other sources (Chakra, Alt Linux), but there is no reason to praise solely Trinity for having KDE 3 in openSUSE.

I tried to remove these but somebody returns both statements back.

No, this is because ietherpad is horribly unstable. too many people editing at once, random offline etcetera. Unfortunately it is the most stable of the 'free' etherpad installs on the web.

I've been kicking people for ages about an etherpad installation on openSUSE infrastructure but despite efforts from a few ppl (there's now a nice etherpad image on SUSE Studio for example) it never happened.

Now we get bitten by it and yes, there's no time to fix it. Yes, it is deeply annoying. Yes, it hurts our marketing efforts.

Sorry.

/me is quite frustrated about this

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We could use Kablink. It has real time collaboration and can even tie in to Google Wave. Hell, why not use Wave instead?

If kablink has all the features we use*, it'd be awesome. Please, provide a link to a 'pad' so we can check it out and start using it... * Features means these ones besides real-time collaborative editing: - build in persistent chat - change tracking & history & colors per user to see what has changed - no login required for editing (extremely low barier) Cheers, Jos

Michal Kubeček

06:51

IMHO it would be useful to mention systemd transition and the "install sysvinit-init" (or uninstall systemd-sysvinit) trick in the Release Notes as well. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Lars Müller

12 Nov 12 Nov

23:54

On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 07:51:59AM +0100, Michal Kubeček wrote:

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IMHO it would be useful to mention systemd transition and the "install sysvinit-init" (or uninstall systemd-sysvinit) trick in the Release Notes as well.

You have something like the text in the Upgrade section of http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Most_annoying_bugs_12.1 in mind? Lars -- Lars Müller [ˈlaː(r)z ˈmʏlɐ] Samba Team SUSE Linux, Maxfeldstraße 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany

Jos Poortvliet

13 Nov 13 Nov

20:54

On Sunday, November 13, 2011 00:54:50 Lars MÃ¼ller wrote:

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On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 07:51:59AM +0100, Michal KubeÄek wrote:

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IMHO it would be useful to mention systemd transition and the "install sysvinit-init" (or uninstall systemd-sysvinit) trick in the Release Notes as well.

You have something like the text in the Upgrade section of http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Most_annoying_bugs_12.1 in mind?

Notice that the Product_highlights mention this now. Yes the release notes might need this too, but I guess as the GM is done that would be too late now (if it's not in there, that is). Honestly I don't know what the process if for writing the release notes, nor have I been involved now or in the past ;-)

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Lars

Michal Kubecek

22:15

On Ne 13. November 2011, 21:54:59 CET, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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Notice that the Product_highlights mention this now. Yes the release notes might need this too, but I guess as the GM is done that would be too late now (if it's not in there, that is).

Installer downloads updated Release Notes when testing Internet connectivity, doesn't it? Michal Kubeček -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Jos Poortvliet

14 Nov 14 Nov

00:10

On Sunday, November 13, 2011 23:15:25 Michal Kubecek wrote:

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On Ne 13. November 2011, 21:54:59 CET, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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Notice that the Product_highlights mention this now. Yes the release notes might need this too, but I guess as the GM is done that would be too late now (if it's not in there, that is).

Installer downloads updated Release Notes when testing Internet connectivity, doesn't it?

I have no idea... If it does it makes sense to add stuff, yes.

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Michal Kubeček

Andreas Jaeger

08:23

On Sunday, November 13, 2011 22:10:06 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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On Sunday, November 13, 2011 23:15:25 Michal Kubecek wrote:

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On Ne 13. November 2011, 21:54:59 CET, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

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Notice that the Product_highlights mention this now. Yes the release notes might need this too, but I guess as the GM is done that would be too late now (if it's not in there, that is).

Installer downloads updated Release Notes when testing Internet connectivity, doesn't it?

I have no idea... If it does it makes sense to add stuff, yes.

Yes, it does, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn,Jennifer Guild,Felix Imendörffer,HRB16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Roger Luedecke

08:50

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Installer downloads updated Release Notes when testing Internet connectivity, doesn't it? It occurs to me, we had a good amount of discussion once on how to update the greeter... wouldn't it make sense to include the release notes and/or feature highlights in that? It seems to me to be a rather simple

On Monday, November 14, 2011 09:23:40 AM Andreas Jaeger wrote: thing to implement, and would be extremely relevant to the end user, especially a newer user. -- "It's men like him that give the Y chromosome a bad name." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Christian Boltz

21:49

Hello, Am Sonntag, 13. November 2011 schrieb Jos Poortvliet:

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Honestly I don't know what the process if for writing the release notes, nor have I been involved now or in the past ;-)

Just open a bugreport with component "Release Notes". If possible, include a text proposal that can be pasted into the release notes ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz --

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Das ist wieder so ein schöner Popcorn-Thread, zu dem ich meinen Senf dazu geben will: Popcorn mit Senf....<schauder/> :-) [> Jens Nixdorf und Rainer Koenig in suse-linux]

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Michal Kubecek

13 Nov 13 Nov

21:50

On Ne 13. listopad 2011, 00:54:50 CET, Lars Müller wrote:

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On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 07:51:59AM +0100, Michal Kubeček wrote:

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IMHO it would be useful to mention systemd transition and the "install sysvinit-init" (or uninstall systemd-sysvinit) trick in the Release Notes as well.

You have something like the text in the Upgrade section of http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Most_annoying_bugs_12.1 in mind?

I meant something like "We changed the boot process to be managed by systemd by default, if you want to use traditional System V init, replace package systemd-sysvinit with sysvinit-init." Michal Kubeček -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Per Jessen
Roger Luedecke
Steven Sroka