[opensuse-factory] After a while I get "kdeinit could not launch .... " error from Plasma Dolphin
Hello. After updating to the last Tumbleweed, my previous update was in July, everything seems to work fine, but after a while (say, 30 minutes) I could not start application anymore by clicking on the icon of a file in Dolphin. This happens with everything... text files: I get a popup "kdeinit could not launch kate" PDF files: okular icon is shown in task bar but doesn't open and then disappears image files: gwenview icon is shown in task bar but doesn't open and then disappears Same for libreoffice, and even vlc. Nothing starts anymore. Please notice that: - if I start the same application (vlc, okular, kate, kwrite, and so on) from the panel menu, it starts ok - if I start it from krunner it works - if I click on a text file link I have on panel, it doesn't work and gives the same "kdeinit could not launch kate" error - if I click on the icon with right mosue button and use "open with" doesn't work either Everything works for a while, then without any apparent reason it stops working, if I log out and log in back, it resets and works for a while, then breaks again. I checked around and this behaviour is associated with change in hostname, which I don't change, and wake up after sleep, but it happens even if the PC is always in use. Just a few minutes, like 30 minutes, after log in, regardless of the activity. I could not even trigger it somehow, it just happens! I don't even know where to start looking for errors, .xsession-error is not there, logs in /var/log don't show anything. Best regards, Andrea. -- Andrea "Kontorotsui" Controzzi Contact: +39 392 9989834 - +39 050 644097 Skype: Kontorotsui Settore tecnico / Technical Department - www.LedMania.it ----- LedMania SRL unipersonale Via Galilei 27 56042 Lavoria (PI) P.IVA: 01941970509 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Andrea Controzzi - LedMania.it wrote:
Hello.
After updating to the last Tumbleweed, my previous update was in July, everything seems to work fine, but after a while (say, 30 minutes) I could not start application anymore by clicking on the icon of a file in Dolphin.
This happens with everything...
text files: I get a popup "kdeinit could not launch kate"
PDF files: okular icon is shown in task bar but doesn't open and then disappears
image files: gwenview icon is shown in task bar but doesn't open and then disappears
Same for libreoffice, and even vlc. Nothing starts anymore.
The programs seem to start, but not be able to read the data you want to open with it. If you start an application, and from there use File->Open to read a file, does that work?
Everything works for a while, then without any apparent reason it stops working, if I log out and log in back, it resets and works for a while, then breaks again.
Also if you don't do anything in the meantime? I.e., is it time-based, or maybe triggered by something you do?
I checked around and this behaviour is associated with change in hostname, which I don't change, and wake up after sleep, but it happens even if the PC is always in use. Just a few minutes, like 30 minutes, after log in, regardless of the activity. I could not even trigger it somehow, it just happens!
Ah, ok.
I don't even know where to start looking for errors, .xsession-error is not there, logs in /var/log don't show anything.
just learned that myself recently: Use 'journalctl --user' for this. No real other ideas - wait for the Gurus ;^> -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/02/2018 22:18, Peter Suetterlin wrote:
The programs seem to start, but not be able to read the data you want to open with it. If you start an application, and from there use File->Open to read a file, does that work?
Yes it works perfectly. I use it as a workaround, actually, but eventually I give up and logout and login to fix it.
Everything works for a while, then without any apparent reason it stops working, if I log out and log in back, it resets and works for a while, then breaks again. Also if you don't do anything in the meantime? I.e., is it time-based, or maybe triggered by something you do?
No idea, I could not find any way to trigger it, so seems sort of time based, but seems strange to me. So far the only time-based trouble I found was my SSD, which I *never* trimmed in like 6 years, after about 6 minutes locked up. Probably was the garbage colelctor or something. I don't even know where to start looking for errors, .xsession-error is not
there, logs in /var/log don't show anything. just learned that myself recently: Use 'journalctl --user' for this.
No real other ideas - wait for the Gurus ;^>
How does that work? -- Andrea "Kontorotsui" Controzzi Contact: +39 392 9989834 - +39 050 644097 Skype: Kontorotsui Settore tecnico / Technical Department - www.LedMania.it ----- LedMania SRL unipersonale Via Galilei 27 56042 Lavoria (PI) P.IVA: 01941970509 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Andrea Controzzi - LedMania.it wrote:
On 18/02/2018 22:18, Peter Suetterlin wrote:
there, logs in /var/log don't show anything.
just learned that myself recently: Use 'journalctl --user' for this.
No real other ideas - wait for the Gurus ;^>
How does that work?
You mean waiting for the Gurus? Or how to open a terminal (as user), type 'journalctl --user' and hit ENTER? (In doubt use 'journalctl --user -b' to only see entries since the last boot) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 08:49:34PM +0100, Andrea Controzzi - LedMania.it wrote:
After updating to the last Tumbleweed, my previous update was in July, everything seems to work fine, but after a while (say, 30 minutes) I could not start application anymore by clicking on the icon of a file in Dolphin.
This happens with everything... ... Everything works for a while, then without any apparent reason it stops working, if I log out and log in back, it resets and works for a while, then breaks again.
I checked around and this behaviour is associated with change in hostname, which I don't change, and wake up after sleep, but it happens even if the PC is always in use. Just a few minutes, like 30 minutes, after log in, regardless of the activity. I could not even trigger it somehow, it just happens!
Sounds like another reincarnation of bsc#966671. Michal Kubeček -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 18/02/2018 22:28, Michal Kubecek wrote:
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 08:49:34PM +0100, Andrea Controzzi - LedMania.it wrote:
After updating to the last Tumbleweed, my previous update was in July, everything seems to work fine, but after a while (say, 30 minutes) I could not start application anymore by clicking on the icon of a file in Dolphin.
This happens with everything... ... Everything works for a while, then without any apparent reason it stops working, if I log out and log in back, it resets and works for a while, then breaks again.
I checked around and this behaviour is associated with change in hostname, which I don't change, and wake up after sleep, but it happens even if the PC is always in use. Just a few minutes, like 30 minutes, after log in, regardless of the activity. I could not even trigger it somehow, it just happens! Sounds like another reincarnation of bsc#966671.
Michal Kubeček
Which is... ? Looks like a bug number, but where do I find it? The only one I found is completely unrelated. -- Andrea "Kontorotsui" Controzzi Contact: +39 392 9989834 - +39 050 644097 Skype: Kontorotsui Settore tecnico / Technical Department - www.LedMania.it ----- LedMania SRL unipersonale Via Galilei 27 56042 Lavoria (PI) P.IVA: 01941970509 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Andrea Controzzi - LedMania.it
On 18/02/2018 22:28, Michal Kubecek wrote:
On Sun, Feb 18, 2018 at 08:49:34PM +0100, Andrea Controzzi - LedMania.it wrote:
After updating to the last Tumbleweed, my previous update was in July, everything seems to work fine, but after a while (say, 30 minutes) I could not start application anymore by clicking on the icon of a file in Dolphin.
This happens with everything... ... Everything works for a while, then without any apparent reason it stops working, if I log out and log in back, it resets and works for a while, then breaks again.
I checked around and this behaviour is associated with change in hostname, which I don't change, and wake up after sleep, but it happens even if the PC is always in use. Just a few minutes, like 30 minutes, after log in, regardless of the activity. I could not even trigger it somehow, it just happens! Sounds like another reincarnation of bsc#966671.
Michal Kubeček
Which is... ? Looks like a bug number, but where do I find it? The only one I found is completely unrelated.
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On Monday, 19 February 2018 0:02 Andrea Controzzi - LedMania.it wrote:
On 18/02/2018 22:28, Michal Kubecek wrote:
Sounds like another reincarnation of bsc#966671.
Which is... ? Looks like a bug number, but where do I find it? The only one I found is completely unrelated.
https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=966671 Michal Kubeček -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Michal Kubecek wrote:
On Monday, 19 February 2018 0:02 Andrea Controzzi - LedMania.it wrote:
On 18/02/2018 22:28, Michal Kubecek wrote:
Sounds like another reincarnation of bsc#966671.
Which is... ? Looks like a bug number, but where do I find it? The only one I found is completely unrelated.
Hmm, that seems to be an xauth problem. If that were the case no new application at all could run. If it's related then only plasma/panel/dolphin seem to be affected. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Montag, 19. Februar 2018 10:26:56 CET Peter Suetterlin wrote:
Michal Kubecek wrote:
On Monday, 19 February 2018 0:02 Andrea Controzzi - LedMania.it wrote:
On 18/02/2018 22:28, Michal Kubecek wrote:
Sounds like another reincarnation of bsc#966671.
Which is... ? Looks like a bug number, but where do I find it? The only one I found is completely unrelated.
Hmm, that seems to be an xauth problem. If that were the case no new application at all could run. If it's related then only plasma/panel/dolphin seem to be affected.
There are two xauthority files, read https://cgit.kde.org/kinit.git/tree/src/ kdeinit/kinit.cpp#n1470 for the reason. Only one gets rewritten. Kind regards, Stefan -- Stefan Brüns / Bergstraße 21 / 52062 Aachen home: +49 241 53809034 mobile: +49 151 50412019
On 19/02/2018 11:31, Stefan Brüns wrote:
On Montag, 19. Februar 2018 10:26:56 CET Peter Suetterlin wrote:
On Monday, 19 February 2018 0:02 Andrea Controzzi - LedMania.it wrote:
On 18/02/2018 22:28, Michal Kubecek wrote:
Sounds like another reincarnation of bsc#966671. Which is... ? Looks like a bug number, but where do I find it? The only one I found is completely unrelated. https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=966671 Hmm, that seems to be an xauth problem. If that were the case no new application at all could run. If it's related then only
Michal Kubecek wrote: plasma/panel/dolphin seem to be affected. There are two xauthority files, read https://cgit.kde.org/kinit.git/tree/src/ kdeinit/kinit.cpp#n1470 for the reason.
Only one gets rewritten.
Kind regards,
Stefan
Thanks Sterfan, I don't think this is the case as I don't use kdesu, anyway it is most likely related to XAUTHORITY, I found evidence mentioned in the bug above, about that old file in /etc/tmpfiles.d/tmp.conf that could trigger deletion of xauthority files, this explkains why it seems to be time related too. Best regards, Andrea. -- Andrea "Kontorotsui" Controzzi Contact: +39 392 9989834 - +39 050 644097 Skype: Kontorotsui Settore tecnico / Technical Department - www.LedMania.it ----- LedMania SRL unipersonale Via Galilei 27 56042 Lavoria (PI) P.IVA: 01941970509 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 19/02/2018 07:44, Michal Kubecek wrote:
On Monday, 19 February 2018 0:02 Andrea Controzzi - LedMania.it wrote:
On 18/02/2018 22:28, Michal Kubecek wrote:
Sounds like another reincarnation of bsc#966671. Which is... ? Looks like a bug number, but where do I find it? The only one I found is completely unrelated. https://bugzilla.suse.com/show_bug.cgi?id=966671
Michal Kubeček
Thanks Michal, it really seems to be that bug. I'll follow the thread and hope to find a fix, there are already several listed there. Andrea. -- Andrea "Kontorotsui" Controzzi Contact: +39 392 9989834 - +39 050 644097 Skype: Kontorotsui Settore tecnico / Technical Department - www.LedMania.it ----- LedMania SRL unipersonale Via Galilei 27 56042 Lavoria (PI) P.IVA: 01941970509 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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