-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-09 15:31, Joerg Schilling wrote:

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If you have problems with your drive, I recommend you to make a bugreport.

I said there is a bugreport.

Where is is? There was no bug send against cdrecord on the official mailing list.

Reports in openSUSE are made in the official Novell's bugzilla. I'm a user, not a dev nor a packager, so I report there, against the software I get in the distro. Not outside, which has different versions not available to me.

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Plus, wodim is not the problem, the ISO image is broken and too big. Known problem. Changing to cdrecord would solve nothing.

You would get at least a correct message that includes the number of sectors left over (in this case negative).

Brasero puts the correct message. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1SpzoACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UkfQCgkM+nXc1JnivrilZd5IZzukOG W68An2gPsniRKJQMYu+1o5NJb9EWbhUi =7lAx -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 02/09/2011 09:52 AM, Joerg Schilling wrote:

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If you have problems with your drive, I recommend you to make a bugreport.

I said there is a bugreport.

Where is is? There was no bug send against cdrecord on the official mailing list.

Reports in openSUSE are made in the official Novell's bugzilla. I'm a user, not a dev nor a packager, so I report there, against the software I get in the distro. Not outside, which has different versions not available to me.

Novell does not fix bugs.....

Ahem. Would you care to rephrase that? - -Jeff

if you have a problem with software it is usually the best idea to follow the official information in the man page.

If there is a novell bugreport, please send the URL.

Jörg

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"Carlos E. R." wrote:

The URL would be:

http://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=564304

This is not a bug against cdrecord but against growisofs.

And anyway, cdrecord is a symlink in openSUSE, so I can not try the original:

cer@Telcontar:~> l /usr/bin/cdrecord lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 5 2010-12-28 13:20 /usr/bin/cdrecord -> wodim*

I just noticed because I just attempted to try cdrecord instead.

Well please explain me why you claim to use cdrecord while you use a dead and buggy fork instead? Conclusion: there is no problem with cdrecord, you however have to use _cdrecord_ in order to get a working program. I recommend you to install cdrecord and use cdrecord. Cdrecord is known to work. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

"Carlos E. R." wrote:

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Well please explain me why you claim to use cdrecord while you use a dead and buggy fork instead?

I told you not to argue that point with me. You want me to use your cdrecord, then convince Novell to package it! Don't tell _me_.

Let me translate your claims into natural language: You claimed that cdrecord does not work with your drive. As you verified that you used wodim instead of cdrecord, the conclusion is that _wodim_ does not work with your drive. Why don't you make a bug report against wodim? Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

jdd wrote:

for the sake of information, Joerg can certainly say to us what is the real free dvd size, I have the feeling it's not always the same depending of the type (-+ or -) and sometime depending from the brand

Correct, cdrecord retrieves this information and it is different at least between different media types (e.g. + vs. -). .....BTW: cdrecord retrieves the DVD free space information since February 1998. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

jdd wrote:

just tested, only original cdrecord gives this

Track Sess Type Start Addr End Addr Size ============================================== 1 1 Blank 0 2298495 2298496

I suppose it's 2k blocks?

Correct, so the size of the iso is only a few sectors too big. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Le 10/02/2011 02:01, Carlos E. R. a écrit :

And no, I can not test it in factory, as I can not install factory.

I go to the opensuse search software page, select factory as target, ask for cdrecord and find cdrecord original. 1clic install and it works. It did for 11.2 also last year, probably do also now. *way* faster than the competitor for dvd, works also for Blu-Ray (this was my primary goal as I have a BD writer), know exactly the disk size... jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 10:24:09AM +0100, Joerg Schilling wrote:

"Carlos E. R." wrote:

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cer@Telcontar:~> webpin cdrecord 7 results (2 packages) found for "cdrecord" in openSUSE_112 * cdrecord: Cdrtools - Highly portable CD/DVD/BluRay command line recording software (cdrecord, mkisofs) - 2.01.01~a78 [http://jftp.medozas.de/SUSE-11.2] - 2.01.01a77 [home:/gryffus] - 2.01.01a76 [home:/gryffus] * cdrecord-devel: Development files for cdrecord - 2.01.01a77 [home:/gryffus] - 2.01.01a76 [home:/gryffus]

I never use home repos. I'd try if it were in a normal repo maintained by

Look for "cdrtools". Ciao, Marcus -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

"Carlos E. R." wrote:

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On 2011-02-10 11:04, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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cer@Telcontar:~> webpin cdrecord 7 results (2 packages) found for "cdrecord" in openSUSE_112 * cdrecord: Cdrtools - Highly portable CD/DVD/BluRay command line recording software (cdrecord, mkisofs) - 2.01.01~a78 [http://jftp.medozas.de/SUSE-11.2] - 2.01.01a77 [home:/gryffus] - 2.01.01a76 [home:/gryffus] * cdrecord-devel: Development files for cdrecord - 2.01.01a77 [home:/gryffus] - 2.01.01a76 [home:/gryffus]

I never use home repos. I'd try if it were in a normal repo maintained by

Look for "cdrtools".

A bit better, but...

* cdrtools: Cdrtools, cdrecord, mkisofs - Highly portable CD/DVD/BluRay command line recording software - 2.01.01~a78 [http://jftp.medozas.de/SUSE-11.2] * cdrkit-cdrtools-compat: Tool for Writing CDRs - cdrtools compatibility package - 1.1.9 [suse-oss] * schily-cdrtools: Collection of Joerg Schilling's version of the cdrtools - 2.01.01a77 [home:/gryffus] - 2.01.01a76 [home:/gryffus]

Which one should I use?

I see a major bug: "Collection of Joerg Schilling's version of the cdrtools" is missleading. It is the original software, while wodim et al is the buggy variant from Debian. Please note that I do not give permission to use the original names for the related programs from the "fork", so the symlinks pointing to the files from the fork are not permitted. Jörg -- EMail:joerg@schily.isdn.cs.tu-berlin.de (home) Jörg Schilling D-13353 Berlin js@cs.tu-berlin.de (uni) joerg.schilling@fokus.fraunhofer.de (work) Blog: http://schily.blogspot.com/ URL: http://cdrecord.berlios.de/private/ ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/schily -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Le 10/02/2011 12:46, Ciaran Farrell a écrit :

Could you be more specific - what symlinks?

most certainly the symlink cdrecord->wodim being involved in the licence discussion, I would like to know is such symlink needs really any autorisation as it's very often used (it's a true question, I really need an answer) thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://pizzanetti.fr -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On 02/10/2011 03:01 AM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

I never use home repos. I'd try if it were in a normal repo maintained by Novell people. Home repos are private playgrounds, not for use unless told by the maintainer (and I trust him/her) It's located in Base:System/cdrtools which unfortunately only has factory repos but I linked to it in my home:plater project and it builds for 11.2, I'm still on 11.3, just needed to link to smake (Schilly's own rendition of make, as if we needed another one) It would be available for all to use if it's author wasn't so pig headed about granting permission for re-licensing.

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On 02/09/2011 05:56 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

And anyway, cdrecord is a symlink in openSUSE, so I can not try the original:

Because the copyright owner refuses to give permission for a license change. Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-09 15:50, Mike wrote:

On Wednesday 09 February 2011, Joerg Schilling wrote:

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Plus, wodim is not the problem, the ISO image is broken and too big. Known problem. Changing to cdrecord would solve nothing.

You would get at least a correct message that includes the number of sectors left over (in this case negative). Jörg

And this would do exactly what? Still can't burn the image. You seem to think that yours is the only way. It might be, but with a bad image, it doesn't matter.

Exactly. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1Std4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UbDgCcC6SWKT0oOfB/2ooxbPFVtnHK f6kAn3fxJG7gApyCU+N+nGQfQ+WA9kWF =nAfy -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2011-02-09 16:49, Joerg Schilling wrote:

Mike <> wrote:

wodim does not retrive size information, so wodim cannot know whether your specific medium could have sufficient free space.

Not entirely correct. I tried burning a CD image to that same DVD media, and wodim burns it happily. Quemando, paciencia wodim: No write mode specified. wodim: Asuming -tao mode. wodim: Future versions of wodim may have different drive dependent defaults. TOC Type: 1 = CD-ROM wodim: Operation not permitted. Warning: Cannot raise RLIMIT_MEMLOCK limits.scsidev: '/dev/dvd' devname: '/dev/dvd' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Linux sg driver version: 3.5.27 Wodim version: 1.1.9 SCSI buffer size: 64512 Device type : Removable CD-ROM Version : 5 Response Format: 2 Capabilities : Vendor_info : 'HL-DT-ST' Identification : 'DVDRAM GH22LS50 ' Revision : 'TL01' Device seems to be: Generic mmc2 DVD-R/DVD-RW. Current: 0x001A (DVD+RW) Profile: 0x0012 (DVD-RAM) Profile: 0x0011 (DVD-R sequential recording) Profile: 0x0015 (DVD-R/DL sequential recording) Profile: 0x0016 (DVD-R/DL layer jump recording) Profile: 0x0014 (DVD-RW sequential recording) Profile: 0x0013 (DVD-RW restricted overwrite) Profile: 0x001A (DVD+RW) (current) Profile: 0x001B (DVD+R) Profile: 0x002B (DVD+R/DL) Profile: 0x0010 (DVD-ROM) Profile: 0x0009 (CD-R) Profile: 0x000A (CD-RW) Profile: 0x0008 (CD-ROM) Profile: 0x0002 (Removable disk) Using generic SCSI-3/mmc DVD-R(W) driver (mmc_mdvd). Driver flags : SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: PACKET SAO Drive buf size : 1048576 = 1024 KB Beginning DMA speed test. Set CDR_NODMATEST environment variable if device communication breaks or freezes immediately after that. Drive DMA Speed: 17203 kB/s 97x CD 12x DVD FIFO size : 4194304 = 4096 KB Track 01: data 693 MB Total size: 795 MB (78:50.88) = 354816 sectors Lout start: 796 MB (78:52/66) = 354816 sectors Current Secsize: 2048 HINT: use dvd+rw-mediainfo from dvd+rw-tools for information extraction. wodim: WARNING: Data may not fit on standard 74min disk. Speed set to 5540 KB/s Starting to write CD/DVD at speed 4.0 in real unknown mode for single session. Last chance to quit, starting real write in 0 seconds. Operation starts. Waiting for reader process to fill input buffer ... input buffer ready. Performing OPC... Starting new track at sector: 0 Track 02: 401 of 693 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 97%] 4.1x. ... Track 02: 693 of 693 MB written (fifo 100%) [buf 100%] 4.3x. Track 02: Total bytes read/written: 726663168/726663168 (354816 sectors). Writing time: 131.750s Average write speed 4.0x. Min drive buffer fill was 95% Fixating... Fixating time: 10.374s wodim: fifo had 11446 puts and 11446 gets. wodim: fifo was 0 times empty and 6446 times full, min fill was 75%. Although the burn is bad, it is unreadable. Perhaps because I burnt a CD to a DVD. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.2 x86_64 "Emerald" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.12 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAk1Su7kACgkQtTMYHG2NR9Wj3QCeIid5pd1pzYpeSalZI2747GRZ 2FgAoITz5UH1L9vwbMOawNtb68P6i+j5 =scYV -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Wednesday 09 February 2011, Joerg Schilling wrote:

Mike wrote:

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On Wednesday 09 February 2011, Joerg Schilling wrote:

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And this would do exactly what? Still can't burn the image. You seem to think that yours is the only way. It might be, but with a bad image, it doesn't matter.

I am sorry to see that you do not listen to information....

Umm. no, you don't listen. Whether it tells the size or not is not important. If the image is already too large, neither program will write it. How hard is that to understand? And you might try fixing your email program. It is sending duplicate messages. But then again, you know all about that sort of thing, so who am I to tell you anything. Mike -- Powered by SuSE 11.0 Kernel 2.6.25 KDE 3.5 Kmail 1.9 5:20pm up 5 days 23:12, 4 users, load average: 0.00, 0.02, 0.00 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On 02/09/2011 11:38 AM, Peter Nikolic wrote:

On Wednesday 09 February 2011 16:23:06 Mike wrote:

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On Wednesday 09 February 2011, Joerg Schilling wrote:

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Mike wrote:

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On Wednesday 09 February 2011, Joerg Schilling wrote:

And this would do exactly what? Still can't burn the image. You seem to think that yours is the only way. It might be, but with a bad image, it doesn't matter.

I am sorry to see that you do not listen to information....

Umm. no, you don't listen. Whether it tells the size or not is not important. If the image is already too large, neither program will write it. How hard is that to understand?

And you might try fixing your email program. It is sending duplicate messages. But then again, you know all about that sort of thing, so who am I to tell you anything.

Mike

Hi from past experience you are talking to a brick wall here,

It is a know fact the image is borked too big to fit a disk but alas you are beating your self up for nothing jorg has his own agenda and can not see anything else irrespective of the root of the problem save your fngertips folks wait for the next image and hope they get it right this time ..

Pete .

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On Wednesday 09 February 2011 17:35:01 Mike wrote:

On Wednesday 09 February 2011, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Wednesday 09 February 2011 16:23:06 Mike wrote:

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On Wednesday 09 February 2011, Joerg Schilling wrote:

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Mike wrote:

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On Wednesday 09 February 2011, Joerg Schilling wrote:

And this would do exactly what? Still can't burn the image. You seem to think that yours is the only way. It might be, but with a bad image, it doesn't matter.

I am sorry to see that you do not listen to information....

Umm. no, you don't listen. Whether it tells the size or not is not important. If the image is already too large, neither program will write it. How hard is that to understand?

And you might try fixing your email program. It is sending duplicate messages. But then again, you know all about that sort of thing, so who am I to tell you anything.

Mike

Hi from past experience you are talking to a brick wall here,

It is a know fact the image is borked too big to fit a disk but

alas you are beating your self up for nothing jorg has his own agenda and can not see anything else irrespective of the root of the problem

save your fngertips folks wait for the next image and hope they get

it right this time ..

Of course you are right.. I'll just ignore his postings.. And I saw something about RC1 hitting the mirrors..

Mike

Yes noticed that myself i'll try a DL in a few hours time whilst kipping seems the best here Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.7-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.5.5 (KDE 4.5.5) "release 1" 19:09 up 4 days 3:50, 6 users, load average: 0.12, 0.26, 0.26 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org