-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-06 22:36, Guido Berhoerster wrote:

* Carlos E. R. <> [2014-03-06 21:49]:

This is already being done through a maintenance update to release-notes-openSUSE at EOL time. E.g. for 12.2 this was https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:12.2:Update/release-notes-o...

You

mean that you document in the release notes for a certain release, in this case 12.2, that it is not maintained any more. Well, that's fine, but people do not read docs >:-) What I suggest is something that when the user tries to start YaST, directly tells him that that the release he is running is obsolete. Some kind of obnoxious message ;-) And of course, it would have to be for 13.2 and onwards. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMY7dcACgkQtTMYHG2NR9W1NQCePFMe1fD1eCUqZCKTo1X/WonE mAUAnjDA2/AfDr55c+ASsKLu6zmAmipR =VWCl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Claudio Freire [03-06-14 17:05]:

On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 6:51 PM, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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mean that you document in the release notes for a certain release, in this case 12.2, that it is not maintained any more.

Well, that's fine, but people do not read docs >:-)

What I suggest is something that when the user tries to start YaST, directly tells him that that the release he is running is obsolete. Some kind of obnoxious message ;-)

And of course, it would have to be for 13.2 and onwards.

If you want to be obnoxious and obvious, which is kinda required for most users that never fire up yast's online update, you probably want apper to do the popping-upping.

Not sure if there's support for that in apper.

No, should probably be a cron job set to begin just prior to eol and be persistant and obnoxious after eol. note: many remove PackageKit/apper in favor of zypper/you/... -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Carlos E. R. [2014-03-06 22:51]:

On 2014-03-06 22:36, Guido Berhoerster wrote:

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* Carlos E. R. <> [2014-03-06 21:49]:

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This is already being done through a maintenance update to release-notes-openSUSE at EOL time. E.g. for 12.2 this was https://build.opensuse.org/package/show/openSUSE:12.2:Update/release-notes-o...

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mean that you document in the release notes for a certain release, in this case 12.2, that it is not maintained any more.

Well, that's fine, but people do not read docs >:-)

What I suggest is something that when the user tries to start YaST, directly tells him that that the release he is running is obsolete. Some kind of obnoxious message ;-)

The %pre scriptlet does exactly that when installing the update. -- Guido Berhoerster -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Hi Why not just add a grub boot screen with an EOL message along with the EOL release notes? -- Cheers Malcolm °¿° SUSE Knowledge Partner (Linux Counter #276890) openSUSE 13.1 (Bottle) (x86_64) GNOME 3.10.2 Kernel 3.11.10-7-desktop up 12 days 20:15, 5 users, load average: 0.14, 0.18, 0.14 CPU Intel® B840@1.9GHz | GPU Intel® Sandybridge Mobile -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Friday 2014-03-07 03:03, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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Hi Why not just add a grub boot screen with an EOL message along with the EOL release notes?

IMHO, altering boot can be more dangerous, something could go wrong and the machine not boot.

The initrd is regularly regenerated when lvm2, udev, and the like are updated. If a /lib/mkinitrd/scripts/boot-eolwarn.sh is added (which can just stop the splashscreen temporarily and print the EOL message, like the cryptsetup prompt would), that can't be too detrimental. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Friday, March 07, 2014 03:03:17 Carlos E. R. wrote:

On 2014-03-07 02:31, Malcolm wrote:

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Hi Why not just add a grub boot screen with an EOL message along with the EOL release notes?

IMHO, altering boot can be more dangerous, something could go wrong and the machine not boot.

-- Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

Why not a small package for EOL? Have it pop up from tray every 30 min? Or EOL wallpaper:) Kind regards, Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Friday, March 07, 2014 08:26:13 Hans Witvliet wrote:

On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 12:59 +0800, Jason wrote:

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On Friday, March 07, 2014 03:03:17 Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2014-03-07 02:31, Malcolm wrote:

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Hi Why not just add a grub boot screen with an EOL message along with the EOL release notes?

IMHO, altering boot can be more dangerous, something could go wrong and the machine not boot.

-- Cheers / Saludos,

Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

Why not a small package for EOL? Have it pop up from tray every 30 min? Or EOL wallpaper:)

Something like a weeping gecko, while booting?

But seriously, i've got a related question from an end-users group. (real end users, who are never/seldom installing anything, ans that we are ging to provide with a sudio-stick)

In case of an EOL-package, it might be nice if it could change the repo-url towards "Evergreen"....

Hans

Hmm, I was aiming at something more definitive and descriptive enough for users to make the choice themselves. For the option you stated you (plural) might as well have package set the EOL wallpaper with the instructions ie stating system OS reached end of life and 'please visit with instructions on how to change to EG repos OR repo change to next release. Kind regards, jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

* Hans Witvliet [01-01-70 12:34]: [...]

For all those who do updates automatically, it would be a nice feature if they could switch to evergreen without any enduser interaction. Probably a rediculous feature for 90% of seasoned linux users, but for former XP-addicts a life saver.

(and for those familiar with the update-machanisms probably 10 minutes work to create such a switch-to-evergreen-update-package)

So it would be a great enhancement to offer automagic install of a ?script? which would change a user's repos to <evergreen> when the eol notice is displayed. -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Sun, 2014-03-09 at 15:53 +0800, Jason wrote:

Hi Hans,

On Saturday, March 08, 2014 14:40:41 Hans Witvliet wrote:

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On Fri, 2014-03-07 at 15:48 +0800, Jason wrote:

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Something like a weeping gecko, while booting?

But seriously, i've got a related question from an end-users group. (real end users, who are never/seldom installing anything, ans that we are ging to provide with a sudio-stick)

In case of an EOL-package, it might be nice if it could change the repo-url towards "Evergreen"....

Hans

Hmm, I was aiming at something more definitive and descriptive enough for users to make the choice themselves.

For the option you stated you (plural) might as well have package set the EOL wallpaper with the instructions ie stating system OS reached end of life and 'please visit with instructions on how to change to EG repos OR repo change to next release.

Hi Jason,

No, won't work. With some people within the OS-comunity we respond to a request to provide an stable alternative for people currently using XP, with no knowledge/experience to perform those elementary functions that you and i perform on a daily bases.

Ok, but having system behave in a non transparent way just to lower the entry bar isn't really acceptable. I even has second thoughts about the wp thing, as this could potentially upset some but it does seem to be sensible end scenario We're long past (heavy) manual labor on Linux and today it works extremely well therefore having basic training/flyer/webpage for such occasions should suffice.

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Hence we are making a distro on a stick, and one of the questions was about the updates after 13.1 becomes eol.

Therefore the info landing page ie opensuse.org/EOL.

Suse also has 1-click install so in case the current running version is applicable to EG it could contain 1-click install for either EG or the next version.

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For all those who do updates automatically, it would be a nice feature if they could switch to evergreen without any enduser interaction. Probably a rediculous feature for 90% of seasoned linux users, but for former XP-addicts a life saver.

If it ever happens in non-transparent way as you seem to suggest, I'd be first to move on to another distribution:)

Never, ever is acceptable to switch something as essential as repo list without user knowing and accepting said change by typing in admin passwd.

Yeah ok. I think i pecked too fast at the keyboard. Generally speaking, even during the normal life cycle, people have to enter the root-pwd for accepting any patches. So at EOL, if they get an pop-up with an "OK" button fo0r accepting the change (and the mandatory root-pwd) should be at one hand safe enough, and at the other hand simple enough for noobs. hw -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Hello, Am Samstag, 8. März 2014 schrieb Hans Witvliet:

For all those who do updates automatically, it would be a nice feature if they could switch to evergreen without any enduser interaction.

I remember some discussion that Evergreen could just use/continue the 13.1:Update repo, so users wouldn't even have to change anything in their repo setup. However, I don't remember the result of the discussion. Maybe you should ask on the Evergreen list ;-) Regards, Christian Boltz -- Pinguine sind picklige Geeks, die sich ihren Sonnenbrand vorm Monitor holen. [Ratti] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 2014-03-07 05:59, Jason wrote:

Why not a small package for EOL? Have it pop up from tray every 30 min? Or EOL wallpaper:)

What tray, for which desktop? All of them? The tool for that is "wall" (see man page). And might not be seen on all desktops, it is designed for the terminal. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

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On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 01:34:28AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2014-03-07 01:15, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 09:48:55PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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We could just enhance the above message that was printed already?

There is a message now when people try to update 12.2?

I don't know if I have a 12.2 system to try it out.

That one: Warning: Repository 'openSUSE-12.2-Update' appears to be outdated. Consider using a different mirror or server.

Could perhaps read: Warning: Repository 'openSUSE-12.2-Update' appears to be outdated. Check if this distribution or repository is still maintained, and if yes, consider using a different mirror or server.

;)

Ah, I see. Yes, that would be better than the current one. And possibly very easy to implement Let me add to it something. First, add a line to the "/etc/os-release" file containing the estimated end of maintenance period for the release (which can then be updated to the actual date when known). The format of that file allows for customized extensions, so that should not break anything. Then zypper, yast, etc, when doing the check above, not only check for the repo been not refreshed in long time, but also compares the system date with the date read from os-release file, and if the date is past, give the appropriate warning message, when refreshing the repos. The administrator can override the warning by just removing the line in os-release, or changing it. This would not be intrusive or obnoxious for plain users of the systems, just the ones doing the administration - unless apper also does that kind of check. If the administrator then adds the Evergreen update repo (if it exists), simply by creating an update to the file the date would be pushed back and the message silenced. Once the line in os-release exists, someone can also add a new package that creates a cron job that gives a "wall", changes the wallpaper, whatever. We could call the package "obnoxious-end-of-life-warning" ;-) That would cover most of the suggestions on this thread ;-) - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMZjLIACgkQtTMYHG2NR9X56gCgjWiTnFTcQVppb10UBgREjx2G kAwAn3/D1cpyyo6IEMd2TG4Vldt/1GjT =VDd/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2014-03-07 12:42, Ruediger Meier wrote:

On Friday 07 March 2014, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 01:34:28AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

Please before you "improve" these warnings, consider a way how to disable them.

My proposal covers that.

For example I get these warnings every day on all our machines because we are using Evergreen-11.4. 13.1 will also get Evergreen support. So would be nice to get it fixed during 13.1 lifetime.

Yes, it would be nice, but it is a different issue. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://www.enigmail.net/ iEYEARECAAYFAlMZse4ACgkQtTMYHG2NR9UcxgCeK8Od+8QfzvpIENzK1hBmrapU KWYAn0jngMDGtbIi2Bdac1rX08cZAjXT =BlSZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Am 10.03.2014 12:10, schrieb Stephan Kulow:

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On Friday 07 March 2014, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 01:34:28AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2014-03-07 01:15, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 09:48:55PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

We could just enhance the above message that was printed already?

There is a message now when people try to update 12.2?

I don't know if I have a 12.2 system to try it out.

That one: Warning: Repository 'openSUSE-12.2-Update' appears to be outdated. Consider using a different mirror or server.

Could perhaps read: Warning: Repository 'openSUSE-12.2-Update' appears to be outdated. Check if this distribution or repository is still maintained, and if yes, consider using a different mirror or server.

Please before you "improve" these warnings, consider a way how to disable them. For example I get these warnings every day on all our machines because we are using Evergreen-11.4. You just need to disable the update repo - you won't get updates from

On 07.03.2014 12:42, Ruediger Meier wrote: there anyway.

Please don't ;-) You need the old update repo still for situations where you install new packages on your system which got an update after GA but none from Evergreen. Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Monday 10 March 2014, Stephan Kulow wrote:

On 10.03.2014 12:11, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

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Please before you "improve" these warnings, consider a way how to disable them. For example I get these warnings every day on all our machines because we are using Evergreen-11.4.

You just need to disable the update repo - you won't get updates from there anyway.

Please don't ;-)

You need the old update repo still for situations where you install new packages on your system which got an update after GA but none from Evergreen.

This situation doesn't happen on all his machines every day though.

How you know that smart ass? You should safe your arrogant style for things you know exactly. Actually I do "zypper patch" everyday and it logs that warning everyday. But you are right, since today I have one non-11.4 system. So now it happens only on all minus one machines everday (until 13.1 will be EOL)... cu, Rudi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/03/14 05:46, Stephan Kulow wrote:

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This situation doesn't happen on all his machines every day though. How you know that smart ass? You should safe your arrogant style for things you know exactly. No idea why you feel the need to call someone else names - I was just

Am 10.03.2014 16:38, schrieb Ruediger Meier: trying to help. I suggest you unsubscribe yourself if you can't stand that.

Greetings, Stephan

Emoticons, Stephan, emoticons........ Like this one, 8-) BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 11/03/14 02:38, Ruediger Meier wrote:

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On 10.03.2014 12:11, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

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Please before you "improve" these warnings, consider a way how to disable them. For example I get these warnings every day on all our machines because we are using Evergreen-11.4. You just need to disable the update repo - you won't get updates from there anyway. Please don't ;-)

You need the old update repo still for situations where you install new packages on your system which got an update after GA but none from Evergreen. This situation doesn't happen on all his machines every day though. How you know that smart ass? You should safe your arrogant style for

On Monday 10 March 2014, Stephan Kulow wrote: things you know exactly. Actually I do "zypper patch" everyday and it logs that warning everyday.

But you are right, since today I have one non-11.4 system. So now it happens only on all minus one machines everday (until 13.1 will be EOL)...

cu, Rudi

Nah, nah, no need to call Stephan all that. Stephan just doesn't know when and where to used emoticons to indicate that he is "being funny" (or "playful" or "sarcastic"); the absence of any emoticons naturally leads the reader to conclude that he is a smart-arse - which, when one looks back, is woefully wrong. BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 2014-03-12 18:14, Stefan Seyfried wrote:

And that would work just the same if you disable the 11.4 update repo. Just if you want to install a not yet installed package which got updated after GA but not in EG (as Wolfgang stated), you will need the 11.4 update repo.

But you have to keep track of that, manually. I would not disable it, just try disable refresh. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)

On Thursday, March 13, 2014 16:01:17 Ruediger Meier wrote:

On Wednesday 12 March 2014, Stefan Seyfried wrote:

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On 10.03.2014 12:11, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:

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You need the old update repo still for situations where you install new packages on your system which got an update after GA but none from Evergreen.

This situation doesn't happen on all his machines every day though.

How you know that smart ass? You should safe your arrogant style for things you know exactly.

Oh, it's that time of year again, the time to update the mail filters.... :-)

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Actually I do "zypper patch" everyday and it logs that warning everyday.

And that would work just the same if you disable the 11.4 update repo. Just if you want to install a not yet installed package which got updated after GA but not in EG (as Wolfgang stated), you will need the 11.4 update repo.> > Am 10.03.2014 16:38, schrieb Ruediger Meier:

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On Monday 10 March 2014, Stephan Kulow wrote: <snip>

In case a patch has added a new dependency then it could install that dep not-up-to-date. This happens sometimes for patches and often for updates. And it would be absolutely impractical and non-sense to disable all the repos (update-source, -debug ...) and to always enable it before doing "zypper in" ... just to avoid the warning a few but not all times.

BTW disabling autorefresh does not avoid the warning neither which is maybe another bug.

I'm sorry if I used too bad words but I simply got it wrong. Thought it's just another ironic help offer like "If you don't like it as is then don't use it." I know that the update repo issue itself is just a minor one. But it IS an issue and all mentioned ways to work around do not work or are non-sense.

cu, Rudi

Simply to add: 1. Long time ago on Ubuntu, the update applet had small frame (or a button?) area on which "Distribution upgrade available" and you'd perform dist-upgrade. 2. Sabayon has rigo package manager and default 'landing' ui is news. Maybe apper could have landing page (or part of ui) developed to contain news? Kind regards, Jason -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/03/14 22:10, Stephan Kulow wrote:

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On Friday 07 March 2014, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 01:34:28AM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

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On 2014-03-07 01:15, Marcus Meissner wrote:

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On Thu, Mar 06, 2014 at 09:48:55PM +0100, Carlos E. R. wrote:

We could just enhance the above message that was printed already? There is a message now when people try to update 12.2?

I don't know if I have a 12.2 system to try it out. That one: Warning: Repository 'openSUSE-12.2-Update' appears to be outdated. Consider using a different mirror or server.

Could perhaps read: Warning: Repository 'openSUSE-12.2-Update' appears to be outdated. Check if this distribution or repository is still maintained, and if yes, consider using a different mirror or server. Please before you "improve" these warnings, consider a way how to disable them. For example I get these warnings every day on all our machines because we are using Evergreen-11.4. You just need to disable the update repo - you won't get updates from

On 07.03.2014 12:42, Ruediger Meier wrote: there anyway.

Greetings, Stephan

It's really a pity Stephan that you haven't learnt how to use emoticons in your replies because a "smiley" would have shown that you have a sense of "naughtiness" and humour and not appear to be a total mind-jerk :-) . BC -- A civilisation is judged by how it treats the most vulnerable. Lauren Smith - 30 January 2014 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Fri, Mar 07, 2014 at 10:00:56AM +0100, Johannes Weberhofer wrote:

Hello!

The information should also be displayed on the version's portal page, like it is done for the German version for 12.1. I also missed this fact, is it is noted for 12.2 and not noted on the english pages.

See: http://de.opensuse.org/Portal:12.1

http://de.opensuse.org/Portal:12.2 http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:12.1 http://en.opensuse.org/Portal:12.2

This documents seems also not to be up to date: http://en.opensuse.org/Lifetime

Adjusted that page.

http://de.opensuse.org/Produktlebensdauer

That page is only editable by Wiki Sysops (WTF?) Ciao, Marcus

Best regards, Johannes

Am 06.03.2014 21:48, schrieb Carlos E. R.:

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Hi,

I just noticed today of another user not knowing that 12.2 was not maintained anymore. In fact, he asked why he was getting an error:

Warning: Repository 'openSUSE-12.2-Update' appears to be outdated. Consider using a different mirror or server.

Could we somehow have something (YaST?) warning the user when the system he is using is close to the end of its supported lifetime, or past it?

There could be a package or file, part of aaa_base or openSUSE-release perhaps, or a dependency, updated just at the lifetime end, that changes a file telling YaST to warn the user. Then, if the system is switched over to evergreen, that file gets updated, and there are no more warning, till evergreen stops maintenance as well. The admin could override that file easily, if he wishes.

Would this be feasible? :-)

It could be a line in /etc/os-release, containing the end date. The format admits customized extensions. Then a check when yast starts, or some modules of it.

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