[opensuse-factory][tw] glibc-locale requires more space than it requires
zypper barks it cannot install glibc-locale because it needs 64MB on the filesystem. Freespace on filesystem: 457,729,024 (447,001 1k blocks on EXT4; reserved blocks 245,792) Bytes required according to glibc-locale-2.22-2.2.x86_64: 120,944,469 (118110 1k blocks) Excess freespace over what glibc-locale requires: 336,784,555 What's really going on here? This is not the first time I've seen glibc-locale claim it needs more space than it thinks is available on the / filesystem. What is responsible for this obvious miscalculation? Why does any EN only installation ever require any locale package? Trying to delete it wants to emasculate KDE and remove yast2*. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 2015-10-03 07:37, Felix Miata wrote:
zypper barks it cannot install glibc-locale because it needs 64MB on the filesystem.
Freespace on filesystem: 457,729,024 (447,001 1k blocks on EXT4; reserved blocks 245,792)
Bytes required according to glibc-locale-2.22-2.2.x86_64: 120,944,469 (118110 1k blocks)
Excess freespace over what glibc-locale requires: 336,784,555
What's really going on here?
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=720150 ? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Jan Engelhardt composed on 2015-10-03 10:05 (UTC+0200):
Felix Miata wrote:
zypper barks it cannot install glibc-locale because it needs 64MB on the filesystem.
Freespace on filesystem: 457,729,024 (447,001 1k blocks on EXT4; reserved blocks 245,792)
Bytes required according to glibc-locale-2.22-2.2.x86_64: 120,944,469 (118110 1k blocks)
Excess freespace over what glibc-locale requires: 336,784,555
What's really going on here?
https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=720150 -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2015-10-03 07:37, Felix Miata wrote:
Why does any EN only installation ever require any locale package? Trying to delete it wants to emasculate KDE and remove yast2*.
You need at least the English locale, and there are a few to choose from. Linux being multiuser natively, it supports many languages and locales since about ever. The idea is to have them all installed, and each of your users can choose a different language or locale. It is far easier to place all those locales in a single package, than would be to split it in a thousand small packages, one for each language or for each country. That is not feasible. Only for packages with very big language files it makes sense to create separate languages packages. LO, for instance. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iF4EAREIAAYFAlYP1YAACgkQja8UbcUWM1zRJgD/UcKOCuFQWVm2uRQyi86UVtDp A7jG8f2ZRnA5DLlJ4WEA/jzqkMTfr+nRA7vQhjaEgsCL/RderzOsq6gX5vvg/zFL =S1TZ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Saturday 2015-10-03 15:17, Carlos E. R. wrote:
On 2015-10-03 07:37, Felix Miata wrote:
Why does any EN only installation ever require any locale package? Trying to delete it wants to emasculate KDE and remove yast2*.
You need at least the English locale, and there are a few to choose from.
Linux being multiuser natively, it supports many languages and locales since about ever. The idea is to have them all installed, and each of your users can choose a different language or locale.
which makes like zero sense on a machine that is logically used only by a single user. That's why there is locale-gen on Debian, so that the huge size of glibc locales (diskspace, download time) can be traded against CPU time. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 03.10.2015 um 07:37 schrieb Felix Miata:
What's really going on here? This is not the first time I've seen glibc-locale claim it needs more space than it thinks is available on the / filesystem. What is responsible for this obvious miscalculation?
Perhaps there is a bug in handling of packages with many hardlinks. Olaf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Hello, Am Sonntag, 4. Oktober 2015 schrieb Olaf Hering:
Am 03.10.2015 um 07:37 schrieb Felix Miata:
What's really going on here? This is not the first time I've seen glibc-locale claim it needs more space than it thinks is available on the / filesystem. What is responsible for this obvious miscalculation? Perhaps there is a bug in handling of packages with many hardlinks.
Interesting idea, but I slightly doubt that's the reason. IIRC I've seen rpm's space-miscalculations in several packages [1], and I doubt all of them contained hardlinks. Regards, Christian Boltz [1] yes, I'm working on a nearly-full disk ;-) -- Spätestens dabei handelt es sich um Filtereffekte, die ImageMagick bestimmt nicht beherrschen kann. Sollten sie _das_ nachprogrammiert haben, würde ich barfuß hinlaufen und ihnen ein halbes Schwein opfern ob ihrer Genialität. [Ratti in suse-linux] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Christian Boltz composed on 2015-10-04 16:19 (UTC-0400):
Olaf Hering composed:
Felix Miata composed:
What's really going on here? This is not the first time I've seen glibc-locale claim it needs more space than it thinks is available on the / filesystem. What is responsible for this obvious miscalculation?
Perhaps there is a bug in handling of packages with many hardlinks.
Interesting idea, but I slightly doubt that's the reason.
IIRC I've seen rpm's space-miscalculations in several packages [1], and I doubt all of them contained hardlinks.
Could rpm be estimating using an arbitrary blocksize of 4k rather than the filesystem's actual blocksize? In my OP, 4:1 was about the ratio between actual freespace using actual blocksize and how much of that space would be consumed if the blocksize making up that actual space were 4k. -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 2015-10-04 22:19, Christian Boltz wrote:
Am Sonntag, 4. Oktober 2015 schrieb Olaf Hering:
Am 03.10.2015 um 07:37 schrieb Felix Miata:
What's really going on here? This is not the first time I've seen glibc-locale claim it needs more space than it thinks is available on the / filesystem. What is responsible for this obvious miscalculation? Perhaps there is a bug in handling of packages with many hardlinks.
Interesting idea, but I slightly doubt that's the reason.
IIRC I've seen rpm's space-miscalculations in several packages [1], and I doubt all of them contained hardlinks.
Even if rpm miscounted hardlinks as requiring n times the space, why would rpm request *more* space the closer you got to 100% fill level? (That makes it sort of unlikely that hardlinks are the culprit. But you never know.) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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