On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:

On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 03:40:28PM +1000, Horst Günther Burkhardt III wrote:

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Hey. It has come to my attention that the version of tla being shipped with openSuSE 10.2 and -factory is the same. Not only that, both are the same as the version that shipped with SuSE 10.0 - a shameful state of affairs.

tla-1.3.3 is long deprecated, there is NO reason it should continue to be packaged with current distributions. I propose that OpenSuSE packages tla-1.3.5, which has been stable for quite some time.

In such case (finding an outdated package), please just open an Enhancement bugreport in bugzilla.

I can't! I don't have a bugzilla account and nor can I create one! tla has almost NO deps (in fact it only needs libc as i recall) and it could VERY simply be packaged by a person who knew how RPM worked.

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On tla related issues, would anyone like to binary package SXEmacs (http://www.sxemacs.org/) for OpenSuSE? (no, I'm not asking as an SXEmacs representative. it's just an idea.)

Looks definitely suited for the openSUSE buildservice. :)

I meant to be included in the default distribution, maybe someday even replacing XEmacs (the site has a list of things about SXE that are better than XE and I could probably tell you more) If people don't KNOW they have a choice, they won't EXERCISE their right to MAKE the choice. Surely you understand.

Ciao, Marcus

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

Horst Günther Burkhardt III writes:

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[...] I can't! I don't have a bugzilla account and nor can I create one! tla has almost NO deps (in fact it only needs libc as i recall) and it could VERY simply be packaged by a person who knew how RPM worked.

Why can you not create a bugzilla account?

Because my browser is buggy as ****, and Novell's site won't let me create an account for some deity-beknown reason. I don't see why you had to CC your colleague Herr Meissner... I took the liberty of assuming he reads the lists regularly. While we're on the topic of outdated packages, why am I still using PINE 4.63 that is up to its 50th odd packaging? 4.64 has been out for ages too. -- /"Horst Günther Burkhardt III"-------------------\ | There's no place like localhost (127.0.0.1) | | http://peanuthorst.livejournal.com/ <- blog | \-----------------------------/

On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Marcus Meissner wrote:

On Mon, Apr 16, 2007 at 06:04:47PM +1000, Horst Günther Burkhardt III wrote:

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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[...] I can't! I don't have a bugzilla account and nor can I create one! tla has almost NO deps (in fact it only needs libc as i recall) and it could VERY simply be packaged by a person who knew how RPM worked.

Why can you not create a bugzilla account?

While we're on the topic of outdated packages, why am I still using PINE 4.63 that is up to its 50th odd packaging? 4.64 has been out for ages too.

I have forwarded the tla update info to the maintainer.

Ciao, Marcus

Danke. and PINE? -- /"Horst Günther Burkhardt III"-------------------\ | There's no place like localhost (127.0.0.1) | | http://peanuthorst.livejournal.com/ <- blog | \-----------------------------/