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Andreas Jaeger

3 Sep 2011 3 Sep '11

12:37

On Saturday, September 03, 2011 02:28:57 AM Manfred Riem wrote:

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Hi all,

I assume Oracle means it to read "the DLJ is no longer necessary for JDK 7 and up. " So I am a bit unsure why JDK6 won't be in 12.1? Even though JDK 7 is out it is fairly new and most if not all organizations will still be evaluating the JDK 7 release during the lifetime of 12.1?

Ask Oracle why the revoked the DLJ for any future JDK6 version. We could ship the version we have today but cannot update if any security problems are found. Does it make sense to go to Open JDK7 for 12.1? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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Joaquin Sosa

3 Sep 3 Sep

21:52

New subject: [opensuse-java] Re: [opensuse-factory] Focusing on OpenJDK - Sun/Oracle JDK will not be in 12.1

On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 08:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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Does it make sense to go to Open JDK7 for 12.1?

How about regular JDK 7? It can be handled like Firefox in 11.4: the beta was shipped, and later updated to the final version. http://jdk7.java.net/download.html -- Med Vennlig Hilsen, A. Helge Joakimsen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Cristian Rodríguez

4 Sep 4 Sep

00:14

New subject: [opensuse-java] Re: [opensuse-factory] Focusing on OpenJDK - Sun/Oracle JDK will not be in 12.1

On 03/09/11 18:52, Joaquin Sosa wrote:

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On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 08:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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Does it make sense to go to Open JDK7 for 12.1?

How about regular JDK 7? It can be handled like Firefox in 11.4: the beta was shipped, and later updated to the final version.

http://jdk7.java.net/download.html

Did you read the license of that link before suggesting ? in that page it clearly says that you have no rights to distribute. modify, even to run it in production or commercial use. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Andreas Jaeger

05:19

New subject: [opensuse-java] Re: [opensuse-factory] Focusing on OpenJDK - Sun/Oracle JDK will not be in 12.1

On Saturday, September 03, 2011 11:52:23 PM Joaquin Sosa wrote:

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On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 08:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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Does it make sense to go to Open JDK7 for 12.1?

How about regular JDK 7? It can be handled like Firefox in 11.4: the beta was shipped, and later updated to the final version.

http://jdk7.java.net/download.html

Regular JDK7 is not anymore under the distributor license, so not an option, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Joaquin Sosa

07:15

New subject: [opensuse-java] Re: [opensuse-factory] Focusing on OpenJDK - Sun/Oracle JDK will not be in 12.1

On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 01:19, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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On Saturday, September 03, 2011 11:52:23 PM Joaquin Sosa wrote:

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On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 08:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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Does it make sense to go to Open JDK7 for 12.1?

How about regular JDK 7? It can be handled like Firefox in 11.4: the beta was shipped, and later updated to the final version.

http://jdk7.java.net/download.html

Regular JDK7 is not anymore under the distributor license, so not an option,

And what's the excuse for not providing a pullin-real-java package, exactly as is done with flash? Just a script to pull the download and install it. The software is never hosted or distributed by openSUSE. -- Med Vennlig Hilsen, A. Helge Joakimsen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Ralf Lang

08:31

New subject: [opensuse-java] Re: [opensuse-factory] Focusing on OpenJDK - Sun/Oracle JDK will not be in 12.1

Am Sonntag, 4. September 2011, 09:15:31 schrieb Joaquin Sosa:

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On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 01:19, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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On Saturday, September 03, 2011 11:52:23 PM Joaquin Sosa wrote:

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On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 08:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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Does it make sense to go to Open JDK7 for 12.1?

How about regular JDK 7? It can be handled like Firefox in 11.4: the beta was shipped, and later updated to the final version.

http://jdk7.java.net/download.html

Regular JDK7 is not anymore under the distributor license, so not an option,

And what's the excuse for not providing a pullin-real-java package, exactly as is done with flash? Just a script to pull the download and install it. The software is never hosted or distributed by openSUSE.

The excuse is probably "you and all other interested" did not yet provide such a script. Go ahead if you can. It's really appreciated. -- Ralf Lang Linux Consultant / Developer B1 Systems GmbH Osterfeldstraße 7 / 85088 Vohburg / http://www.b1-systems.de GF: Ralph Dehner / Unternehmenssitz: Vohburg / AG: Ingolstadt,HRB 3537 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Michael Riess

27 Sep 27 Sep

10:50

New subject: [opensuse-java] Re: [opensuse-factory] Focusing on OpenJDK - Sun/Oracle JDK will not be in 12.1

Am 04.09.2011 10:31, schrieb Ralf Lang:

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Am Sonntag, 4. September 2011, 09:15:31 schrieb Joaquin Sosa:

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On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 01:19, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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On Saturday, September 03, 2011 11:52:23 PM Joaquin Sosa wrote:

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On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 08:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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Does it make sense to go to Open JDK7 for 12.1?

How about regular JDK 7? It can be handled like Firefox in 11.4: the beta was shipped, and later updated to the final version.

http://jdk7.java.net/download.html

Regular JDK7 is not anymore under the distributor license, so not an option, ...

what about https://www.ibm.com/developerworks/java/jdk/index.html as it passed Sun's Java compatibility test it should be an option to use if IBM offers an apropriate license for OpenSUSE what do you think about it? what about asking IBM for a agreement? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Michal Vyskocil

5 Sep 5 Sep

08:17

New subject: [opensuse-java] Re: [opensuse-factory] Focusing on OpenJDK - Sun/Oracle JDK will not be in 12.1

On Sun, Sep 04, 2011 at 03:15:31AM -0400, Joaquin Sosa wrote:

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On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 01:19, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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On Saturday, September 03, 2011 11:52:23 PM Joaquin Sosa wrote:

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On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 08:37, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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Does it make sense to go to Open JDK7 for 12.1?

How about regular JDK 7? It can be handled like Firefox in 11.4: the beta was shipped, and later updated to the final version.

http://jdk7.java.net/download.html

Regular JDK7 is not anymore under the distributor license, so not an option,

And what's the excuse for not providing a pullin-real-java package, exactly as is done with flash? Just a script to pull the download and install it. The software is never hosted or distributed by openSUSE.

As in every other case - someone has to do it. If there is any volunteer for such task, do not hesistate to contact me and I will help him with getting his script into the Factory. But I am not going to do it neither maintain such script. Regards Michal Vyskocil -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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