Am 03.12.2014 um 14:45 schrieb Werner Flamme:

[...] Hm, I went along the guide, and setup the update/tumbleweed repo. While zypper is very picky about typos, I do not get any error that this repo update/tumbleweed causes any problems. So maybe it is visible for special user agents only?

It works in general. It's just not visible in the directoy listing as the URL is rewritten by apache.

BTW, which software is older in tumbleweed than it is in 13.2? I mean, before the - in the version number?

Hopefully none :-) cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.de/ SUSE LINUX GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstraße 5; 90409 Nürnberg; Germany -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 12/03/2014 03:10 PM, Dimstar / Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

On Wed, 2014-12-03 at 15:00 +0100, Ludwig Nussel wrote:

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Am 03.12.2014 um 14:45 schrieb Werner Flamme:

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[...] Hm, I went along the guide, and setup the update/tumbleweed repo. While zypper is very picky about typos, I do not get any error that this repo update/tumbleweed causes any problems. So maybe it is visible for special user agents only?

It works in general. It's just not visible in the directoy listing as the URL is rewritten by apache.

Actually, I just re-verified.. and in fact

http://download.opensuse.org/update/factory/ and http://download.opensuse.org/update/tumbleweed/

Are both rewritten. Special care on the trailing '/' though: or it won't rewrite yet. Which normally is fine for zypp based downloads, as there is always at least a filename following.

Dominique

All, yes, I also found it strange that a rolling release uses a update directory. But I am not that well informed. Also, I checked too, and yes the URL is rewritten. Something Yast2 is not picking-up. Still I see (among others) mozilla updates on distros which are not found in either factory or tumbleweed. Ah, well. I think I just wait some time until tumbleweed start rolling again. If not, go back to 13.2 and use packman for the newer packages. Frans. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 12/03/2014 09:33 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Frans de Boer [12-03-14 15:19]:

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All, yes, I also found it strange that a rolling release uses a update directory. But I am not that well informed.

Also, I checked too, and yes the URL is rewritten. Something Yast2 is not picking-up.

Still I see (among others) mozilla updates on distros which are not found in either factory or tumbleweed.

Ah, well. I think I just wait some time until tumbleweed start rolling again. If not, go back to 13.2 and use packman for the newer packages.

Tw is working, constantly. Although full versions are only issued when ready and that has been anywhere from two days to two weeks, incremental updates do appear several times every day and you are not restricted to only oss and non-oss repos as some of the packages that intrest you may be other places, such as: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/photo/openSUSE_Factory... which will become: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/photo/tumbleweed/

fwiw, on my system firefox is updated from http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss

which should be the Tw OSS repo (or will be shortly). http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/

The newer packages are on Tw

Ok, thanks. It seems that TW is not fully operational. The thing is that I prefer TW instead of factory, because I understood that TW is the "more stable" version of factory and factory is a testing ground. 13.2 is stable too, but has some very old pieces of software as opposed to TW. Frans. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 3:46 PM, Frans de Boer wrote:

On 12/03/2014 09:33 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Frans de Boer [12-03-14 15:19]:

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All, yes, I also found it strange that a rolling release uses a update directory. But I am not that well informed.

Also, I checked too, and yes the URL is rewritten. Something Yast2 is not picking-up.

Still I see (among others) mozilla updates on distros which are not found in either factory or tumbleweed.

Ah, well. I think I just wait some time until tumbleweed start rolling again. If not, go back to 13.2 and use packman for the newer packages.

Tw is working, constantly. Although full versions are only issued when ready and that has been anywhere from two days to two weeks, incremental updates do appear several times every day and you are not restricted to only oss and non-oss repos as some of the packages that intrest you may be other places, such as: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/photo/openSUSE_Factory... which will become: http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/multimedia:/photo/tumbleweed/

fwiw, on my system firefox is updated from http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss

which should be the Tw OSS repo (or will be shortly). http://download.opensuse.org/tumbleweed/repo/oss/

The newer packages are on Tw

Ok, thanks. It seems that TW is not fully operational. The thing is that I prefer TW instead of factory, because I understood that TW is the "more stable" version of factory and factory is a testing ground.

13.2 is stable too, but has some very old pieces of software as opposed to TW.

Frans.

First, nothing older than Nov 1 or so is accurate. Things have been renamed. The current status is: Testing rings: As core code is submitted to factory it is first put through rings of testing as it is put through an autoQA process. As each testing ring is passed, the packages under test are pushed to the next ring which has more and more "updated" packages in it. The final ring has all the latest and greatest that has made it through the previous rings. The final ring is called factory as it always has been. Factory itself gets put through an autoQA process. If it passes, then Factory gets pushed to Tumbleweed. Thus if the packages being pushed to factory are well behaved and work together well, all the autoQA test pass and Tumbleweed is updated in short order. Unfortunately, reality is different and factory can get in modes where it fails autoQA. This can go on for days or even a couple weeks as the devs try to get all the pieces working together. Thus, in my opinion "factory" should only be used that are troubleshooting autoQA failures. Tumbleweed is what should be used by anyone who wants the rolling release. That seems clear until you start looking at the devel repositories in OBS. The renaming of "factory snapshots" to Tumblewee only took place a month ago and the process is very much still in precess. Thus you will often find the repositories named factory, when the corrent new name is Tumbleweed. HTH Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org