Richard Brown wrote:

On 6 September 2015 at 11:55, Per Jessen wrote:

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I was playing with a new fileserver and thought I would try out tumbleweed. Yast was not installed ... :-)

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=944650

Yup, 'minimal' installation means 'minimal'

It seems to have become a lot more minimal than in 13.2.

zyppers installed though so adding the yast pattern isn't hard

I did do that next, but then I need to pick all the yast modules etc etc. Not very useful, IMHO. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (12.9°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - dedicated server rental in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Richard Brown wrote:

On 6 September 2015 at 12:10, Per Jessen wrote:

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Richard Brown wrote:

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On 6 September 2015 at 11:55, Per Jessen wrote:

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I was playing with a new fileserver and thought I would try out tumbleweed. Yast was not installed ... :-)

http://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=944650

Yup, 'minimal' installation means 'minimal'

It seems to have become a lot more minimal than in 13.2.

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zyppers installed though so adding the yast pattern isn't hard

I did do that next, but then I need to pick all the yast modules etc etc. Not very useful, IMHO.

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I quite like the idea of adding a more Generic 'Server' installation scenario that includes YaST and maybe other common server tool packages right out of the box

The pattern was called "Minimum (Server Only)" in 13.2 - removing stuff like firewall and yast (I don't know what else wasn't installed) makes it too minimum to be really useful, I think.

But I like the fact that our Minimal installation is now much more true to the term - it's been proven to be very useful for my personal VM server where I'm using lots of small Tumbleweed VM images for various services, and because I'm using Saltstack and other DevOps/Cloudy tools I do not need YaST on there.

Possibly not the most generic usage for the minimum pattern, I dunno. Anyway, just shows that TW is not really for me :-) -- Per Jessen, Zürich (13.0°C) http://www.dns24.ch/ - free dynamic DNS, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan wrote:

* Per Jessen [09-06-15 06:20]:

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Richard Brown wrote: [...]

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I quite like the idea of adding a more Generic 'Server' installation scenario that includes YaST and maybe other common server tool packages right out of the box

The pattern was called "Minimum (Server Only)" in 13.2 - removing stuff like firewall and yast (I don't know what else wasn't installed) makes it too minimum to be really useful, I think.

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But I like the fact that our Minimal installation is now much more true to the term - it's been proven to be very useful for my personal VM server where I'm using lots of small Tumbleweed VM images for various services, and because I'm using Saltstack and other DevOps/Cloudy tools I do not need YaST on there.

Possibly not the most generic usage for the minimum pattern, I dunno. Anyway, just shows that TW is not really for me :-)

More likely that particular pattern install is "not really for ...".

I've been using that pattern for years, probably ten or more. There has occasionally been debate about what the minimum server-only pattern is really for, but it's always worked very well. -- Per Jessen, Zürich (15.4°C) http://www.hostsuisse.com/ - virtual servers, made in Switzerland. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org