[opensuse-factory] QT4 builds of Firefox
Is anyone here aware of this yet? The very very alpha builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-cent... I haven't seen any discussion about this yet... has anyone got this on their ToDo list yet? Would be nice to get these builds included somewhere... somehow (especially once they stabilize a little). They aren't working very well yet (no default theme) but... maybe we can help out with the testing? Blog entry about this here: http://blog.johnford.info/linux-qt-builds-of-firefox-now-being-generated-2/ C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hi, Am 08.01.2011 11:10, schrieb C:
Is anyone here aware of this yet?
Yes, until last summer I was involved quite a bit in development for it besides my openSUSE related work.
The very very alpha builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-cent...
I haven't seen any discussion about this yet... has anyone got this on their ToDo list yet? Would be nice to get these builds included somewhere... somehow (especially once they stabilize a little). They aren't working very well yet (no default theme) but... maybe we can help out with the testing?
What do you expect from those? The current status of the codebase is that Gecko's rendering engine is ported to use Qt as a drawing backend (not exactly the true details as it's far more complicated than that). There currently is basically no more integration into Qt and apart from that absolutely nothing interfaces with KDE. So the question really is, what do you (or others who are interested) really expect in the end? Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Sat, Jan 8, 2011 at 12:49, Wolfgang Rosenauer wrote:
Is anyone here aware of this yet?
Yes, until last summer I was involved quite a bit in development for it besides my openSUSE related work.
Cool. I hadn't seen any chatter about it here on the list (but it's easy to miss in the general noise if it was mentioned here).
The very very alpha builds are here: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/tinderbox-builds/mozilla-cent...
I haven't seen any discussion about this yet... has anyone got this on their ToDo list yet? Would be nice to get these builds included somewhere... somehow (especially once they stabilize a little). They aren't working very well yet (no default theme) but... maybe we can help out with the testing?
What do you expect from those? The current status of the codebase is that Gecko's rendering engine is ported to use Qt as a drawing backend (not exactly the true details as it's far more complicated than that). There currently is basically no more integration into Qt and apart from that absolutely nothing interfaces with KDE.
So the question really is, what do you (or others who are interested) really expect in the end?
What do I expect? Mmmm a better integrated KDE4 desktop I guess. Firefox as it is, based on GTK works fine (I'm using FF 4.0 Beta8 right now).... so it's not that it doesn't work in KDE4 or that it looks bad in KDE4. I think it's partly academic interest, coupled with the potential it has to improve the overall KDE4 experience (or so I assume it can do). I use both Gnome and KDE desktops... which means GTK apps in KDE and QT apps in Gnome. Generally speaking using apps in the native widget/toolset looks better, and possibly works better (although this is more likely placebo than reality). C. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
C schrieb:
What do I expect? Mmmm a better integrated KDE4 desktop I guess.
As far as I know, there are no plans at all to make that happen. The Qt target for Firefox is probably embedded devices, i.e. possibly tablets, but not even native-looking Qt theming works right now and I'm not sure if anyone at Mozilla is working on that. Many of us in the Mozilla world would be happy if people would step up to contribute in these areas though. Robert Kaiser -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2011/01/08 12:49 (GMT+0100) Wolfgang Rosenauer composed:
So the question really is, what do you (or others who are interested) really expect in the end?
Freedom from Gnome/GTK* bits installed on systems running no DTE other than KDE? -- "How much better to get wisdom than gold, to choose understanding rather than silver." Proverbs 16:16 NKJV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 08 January 2011 15:16:40 Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/01/08 12:49 (GMT+0100) Wolfgang Rosenauer composed:
So the question really is, what do you (or others who are interested) really expect in the end?
Freedom from Gnome/GTK* bits installed on systems running no DTE other than KDE?
Yes that would be rather nice no GTK Pete . -- Powered by openSUSE 11.3 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.34.7-0.7-desktop KDE Development Platform: 4.4.4 (KDE 4.4.4) "release 3" 15:22 up 19:37, 5 users, load average: 0.74, 0.42, 0.27 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am 08.01.2011 16:23, schrieb Peter Nikolic:
On Saturday 08 January 2011 15:16:40 Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/01/08 12:49 (GMT+0100) Wolfgang Rosenauer composed:
So the question really is, what do you (or others who are interested) really expect in the end?
Freedom from Gnome/GTK* bits installed on systems running no DTE other than KDE?
Yes that would be rather nice no GTK
That's a true reason I can accept ;-) It's just too early for that. If you build Firefox against Qt you lose quite some desktop integration bits. That's why I explained that Gecko was ported to use Qt _not_ Firefox. The main work was done for Fennec (aka Firefox mobile) which is a completely different frontend with different hooks into the system. I'm actually wondering if someone in the (mozilla) community will pick it up and sort out the remaining things for Firefox. I'm not sure if that will happen (some people tried it once in a while and always lost interest for whatever reasons). To answer the intial question though: At least I'm aware of its existance. It's not really on my todo list since I don't see any real point in providing it at the moment. If someone wants to go for it (before I'm bored enough and do it at some point ;-)) I could offer a subrepo under mozilla and probably a branch for the stuff in my HG mozilla repo so it would be easier to sync with my work and if it's clean enough we might be able to build out of one codebase with spec file parameters. There is opensuse-factory-mozilla@ btw and an IRC channel #opensuse-mozilla Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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