[opensuse-factory] What is enabled by default in the new kernel in openSUSE 11.3

Roman Bysh

4 Jul 2010 4 Jul '10

22:14

Hello Listmates, Does anybody have breakdown of what new features, controllers that are enabled and/or provided with the new kernel in openSUSE 11.3? This will also help us help others. We could post it in the FAQs on the new wiki. Any thoughts? Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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Greg KH

5 Jul 5 Jul

04:38

On Sun, Jul 04, 2010 at 06:14:53PM -0400, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Hello Listmates,

Does anybody have breakdown of what new features, controllers that are enabled and/or provided with the new kernel in openSUSE 11.3?

This will also help us help others. We could post it in the FAQs on the new wiki.

Any thoughts?

Look at kernelnewbies.org for a good breakdown of what changes between kernel versions. Hint, it's a lot. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

jdd

06:54

Le 05/07/2010 06:38, Greg KH a écrit :

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Look at kernelnewbies.org for a good breakdown of what changes between kernel versions. Hint, it's a lot.

is there an "kernelnewbies.org -h" (human readable :-) page? thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-support-the-Linux-Documentation-Project/3720... http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-fan-page-of-Claire-Dodin/106485119372062?v... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Thomas Taylor

07:26

On Mon, 05 Jul 2010 08:54:20 +0200 jdd wrote:

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Le 05/07/2010 06:38, Greg KH a écrit :

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Look at kernelnewbies.org for a good breakdown of what changes between kernel versions. Hint, it's a lot.

is there an "kernelnewbies.org -h" (human readable :-) page?

thanks jdd

Try the link under "Change log" at that site. Tom -- Tom Taylor - retired penguin openSuSE 11.3-RC1 x86_64 Fedora 13 KDE 4.4.3, FF 3.6.4 claws-mail 3.7.6 registered linux user 263467 linxt-At-comcast-DoT-net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

jdd

07:29

Le 05/07/2010 09:26, Thomas Taylor a écrit :

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is there an "kernelnewbies.org -h" (human readable :-) page?

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Try the link under "Change log" at that site.

it's what I did :-) but there are little understandable things. What I would like to see is how this can change the day to day life :-) thanks jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-support-the-Linux-Documentation-Project/3720... http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-fan-page-of-Claire-Dodin/106485119372062?v... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Sid Boyce

12:55

On 05/07/10 08:29, jdd wrote:

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Le 05/07/2010 09:26, Thomas Taylor a écrit :

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is there an "kernelnewbies.org -h" (human readable :-) page?

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Try the link under "Change log" at that site.

it's what I did :-)

but there are little understandable things. What I would like to see is how this can change the day to day life :-)

thanks jdd

May be none at all, may be quite a lot, depending on what hardware you use. Kernels will always be upgraded to offer diverse benefits such as additional hardware support, better performance, security, changes in the way certain things are implemented, etc. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Roman Bysh

14:04

On 07/05/2010 08:55 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:

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On 05/07/10 08:29, jdd wrote:

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Le 05/07/2010 09:26, Thomas Taylor a écrit :

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is there an "kernelnewbies.org -h" (human readable :-) page?

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Try the link under "Change log" at that site.

it's what I did :-)

but there are little understandable things. What I would like to see is how this can change the day to day life :-)

thanks jdd

May be none at all, may be quite a lot, depending on what hardware you use. Kernels will always be upgraded to offer diverse benefits such as additional hardware support, better performance, security, changes in the way certain things are implemented, etc. Regards Sid.

Yes I know. One of the users that we were helping on the pre-release forum could not get his 2T Seagate recognized by the kernel. A bug report has been submitted to Bugzilla. Does any one know if we will be enabling GPT and have it on be default. I know that RedHat and CenTOS have this on by deafult. Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

17:32

New subject: [opensuse-factory] What is enabled by default in the new kernel in openSUSE 11.3

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Roman Bysh wrote:

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On 07/05/2010 08:55 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:

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On 05/07/10 08:29, jdd wrote:

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Le 05/07/2010 09:26, Thomas Taylor a écrit :

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is there an "kernelnewbies.org -h" (human readable :-) page?

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Try the link under "Change log" at that site.

it's what I did :-)

but there are little understandable things. What I would like to see is how this can change the day to day life :-)

thanks jdd

May be none at all, may be quite a lot, depending on what hardware you use. Kernels will always be upgraded to offer diverse benefits such as additional hardware support, better performance, security, changes in the way certain things are implemented, etc. Regards Sid.

Yes I know.

One of the users that we were helping on the pre-release forum could not get his 2T Seagate recognized by the kernel. A bug report has been submitted to Bugzilla.

Does any one know if we will be enabling GPT and have it on be default.

I know that RedHat and CenTOS have this on by deafult.

Cheers!

Roman

You're asking if the openSUSE kernel has GPT support? I has for a while I'm pretty sure. Maybe even the 11.1 kernel. What makes you think it doesn't? Or are you asking if the yast partition module supports them? I don't know about that. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

18:16

* Greg Freemyer [07-05-10 13:33]:

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On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Roman Bysh wrote:

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One of the users that we were helping on the pre-release forum could not get his 2T Seagate recognized by the kernel. A bug report has been submitted to Bugzilla.

... You're asking if the openSUSE kernel has GPT support?

I has for a while I'm pretty sure. Maybe even the 11.1 kernel.

What makes you think it doesn't?

Or are you asking if the yast partition module supports them? I don't know about that.

I have an external sata2 2T drive that works fine in 11.2 -- Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Roman Bysh

23:21

On 07/05/2010 02:16 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Greg Freemyer [07-05-10 13:33]:

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On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Roman Bysh wrote:

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One of the users that we were helping on the pre-release forum could not get his 2T Seagate recognized by the kernel. A bug report has been submitted to Bugzilla.

... You're asking if the openSUSE kernel has GPT support?

I has for a while I'm pretty sure. Maybe even the 11.1 kernel.

What makes you think it doesn't?

Or are you asking if the yast partition module supports them? I don't know about that.

I have an external sata2 2T drive that works fine in 11.2

Here's the link to Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617288 Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

6 Jul 6 Jul

03:05

New subject: [opensuse-factory] What is enabled by default in the new kernel in openSUSE 11.3

On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Roman Bysh wrote:

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On 07/05/2010 02:16 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Greg Freemyer [07-05-10 13:33]:

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On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Roman Bysh wrote:

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One of the users that we were helping on the pre-release forum could not get his 2T Seagate recognized by the kernel. A bug report has been submitted to Bugzilla.

... You're asking if the openSUSE kernel has GPT support?

I has for a while I'm pretty sure. Maybe even the 11.1 kernel.

What makes you think it doesn't?

Or are you asking if the yast partition module supports them? I don't know about that.

I have an external sata2 2T drive that works fine in 11.2

Here's the link to Bugzilla:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617288

Out of curiosity, I just added myself to the cc list, but the bugzilla is just a couple weeks old and people appear to be looking at it, so the process seems to be going fine. fyi: You imply your 2TB drive has a GPT (GUID Partition Table). I did not think WIndows Vista supported GPT on boot drives. Has that changed with Win 7 to do so? Thanks Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Roman Bysh

15:20

New subject: [opensuse-factory] What is enabled by default in the new kernel in openSUSE 11.3

On 07/05/2010 11:05 PM, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Roman Bysh wrote:

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On 07/05/2010 02:16 PM, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Greg Freemyer [07-05-10 13:33]:

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On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 10:04 AM, Roman Bysh wrote:

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One of the users that we were helping on the pre-release forum could not get his 2T Seagate recognized by the kernel. A bug report has been submitted to Bugzilla.

... You're asking if the openSUSE kernel has GPT support?

I has for a while I'm pretty sure. Maybe even the 11.1 kernel.

What makes you think it doesn't?

Or are you asking if the yast partition module supports them? I don't know about that.

I have an external sata2 2T drive that works fine in 11.2

Here's the link to Bugzilla:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617288

Out of curiosity, I just added myself to the cc list, but the bugzilla is just a couple weeks old and people appear to be looking at it, so the process seems to be going fine.

fyi: You imply your 2TB drive has a GPT (GUID Partition Table). I did not think WIndows Vista supported GPT on boot drives. Has that changed with Win 7 to do so?

Thanks Greg

Apparently. This not my drive. Check out this link: http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/storage/gpt_faq.mspx In addition, the following instructions from Novell for SLED/SLES 11 provide instructions to boot to shell and execute /efi/boot/elilo.efi from removable media. Here's the link: http://www.novell.com/support/documentLink.do?externalID=7003263 I will also cc to myself. I'm curious about the outcome. -- Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Jeff Mahoney

5 Jul 5 Jul

14:18

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/04/2010 06:14 PM, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Hello Listmates,

Does anybody have breakdown of what new features, controllers that are enabled and/or provided with the new kernel in openSUSE 11.3?

This will also help us help others. We could post it in the FAQs on the new wiki.

Any thoughts?

Check out doc/config-options.changes in the kernel-source SRPM. I've tried to document changes in config over major updates. Sometimes the minor ones slip through and are only documented in kernel-source.changes. - -Jeff - -- Jeff Mahoney SUSE Labs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwx6bMACgkQLPWxlyuTD7L11QCgprGebwctt3RB2oBg4GSkV2+C x80AoIBuI9UOAWDxM2JMCm4man/UyOi/ =U52I -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Roman Bysh

14:24

On 07/05/2010 10:18 AM, Jeff Mahoney wrote:

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On 07/04/2010 06:14 PM, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Hello Listmates,

Does anybody have breakdown of what new features, controllers that are enabled and/or provided with the new kernel in openSUSE 11.3?

This will also help us help others. We could post it in the FAQs on the new wiki.

Any thoughts?

Check out doc/config-options.changes in the kernel-source SRPM. I've tried to document changes in config over major updates. Sometimes the minor ones slip through and are only documented in kernel-source.changes.

- -Jeff

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That's a good starting point. Cheers! Roman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Jeff Mahoney

14:25

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 07/05/2010 10:18 AM, Jeff Mahoney wrote:

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On 07/04/2010 06:14 PM, Roman Bysh wrote:

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Hello Listmates,

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Does anybody have breakdown of what new features, controllers that are enabled and/or provided with the new kernel in openSUSE 11.3?

...
This will also help us help others. We could post it in the FAQs on the new wiki.

...
Any thoughts?

Check out doc/config-options.changes in the kernel-source SRPM. I've tried to document changes in config over major updates. Sometimes the minor ones slip through and are only documented in kernel-source.changes.

Oops. It looks like this didn't make it into the RPM. Michal, can you add it? Thanks! - -Jeff - -- Jeff Mahoney SUSE Labs -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.15 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org/ iEYEARECAAYFAkwx62MACgkQLPWxlyuTD7IZvwCfenoabFx9ECUBE1Rx2k9Ahrnt +bIAn17XLBhbdW36SD9fbzdagF1VDTKi =J4V/ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Michal Marek

7 Jul 7 Jul

10:16

On 5.7.2010 16:25, Jeff Mahoney wrote:

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On 07/05/2010 10:18 AM, Jeff Mahoney wrote:

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Check out doc/config-options.changes in the kernel-source SRPM. I've tried to document changes in config over major updates. Sometimes the minor ones slip through and are only documented in kernel-source.changes.

Oops. It looks like this didn't make it into the RPM. Michal, can you add it?

Done. Michal -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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