The Hinting Problem with Switching Noto Fonts to OTF
Hi, Due to concern over the file sizes of the Noto packages, I am considering retrying a switch to Unhinted OTF as it takes up significantly less space when compared to Hinted TTFs.[1] I am not considering a switch to Variable fonts with Unhinted OTFs filling in the gaps (which would save even more space) as there are a number of upstream issues with the variable fonts as of now.[2] The only problem with this is that when I had previously attempted to switch to Unhinted OTFs, I had gotten bug reports from a number of (KDE Plasma) users that the hinting wasn't good on their system. (Note that Unhinted OTFs actually do have hinting applied to them on openSUSE DEs including KDE Plasma) So it would be great if someone could look more into this. I closed it for now as I have reverted the fonts to Hinted TTF, but it will probably reappear if the fonts switch to Unhinted OTFs again... https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199938 I guess an alternative is to... ignore them. But that doesn't feel good to me. Let me know what yall think, Gordon Leung [1] https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/166953#issuecomment-1100272951 [2] https://github.com/NixOS/nixpkgs/issues/166953#issuecomment-1100812824 (note that most of the linked issues have yet to be resolved)
Hi, Am 14.07.22 um 07:27 schrieb Gordon Leung:
Hi,
Due to concern over the file sizes of the Noto packages, I am considering retrying a switch to Unhinted OTF as it takes up significantly less space when compared to Hinted TTFs.[1] I am not considering a switch to Variable fonts with Unhinted OTFs filling in the gaps (which would save even more space) as there are a number of upstream issues with the variable fonts as of now.[2] The only problem with this is that when I had previously attempted to switch to Unhinted OTFs, I had gotten bug reports from a number of (KDE Plasma) users that the hinting wasn't good on their system. (Note that Unhinted OTFs actually do have hinting applied to them on openSUSE DEs including KDE Plasma) So it would be great if someone could look more into this. I closed it for now as I have reverted the fonts to Hinted TTF, but it will probably reappear if the fonts switch to Unhinted OTFs again... https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199938 https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199938
I guess an alternative is to... ignore them. But that doesn't feel good to me.
I'm not at all a font expert but I was complaining about the heavily ugly fonts back then when it was first introduced. But honestly I don't fully understand your request.
So it would be great if someone could look more into this.
You mean someone should check why the fonts are rendered badly on openSUSE while they are supposed to work? In that case I'm out technically, sorry.
I guess an alternative is to... ignore them.
Who is "them"? The fonts? Or the bugs? Or anything else? Thanks, Wolfgang
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Gordon Leung
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Wolfgang Rosenauer