[opensuse-factory] 10.2B2 first impression + bugs :)
Wow, that looks just ever so much better than 10.1!! Cool photo when booting the DVD. The package selection and the use of colour is really good. The "evaluation" bit when configuring the installation is superbly fast now. Minor: When clicking on "more info" to find out exactly what information will be transmitted to Novell for update-source configuration, the first message is "contacting server". A bit of a laugh, but not a good idea for boosting confidence in privacy. During package selection (as part of initial install) I de-selected zmd, zen-updater, and whatever the third one is in the same group. They still got installed and used though. Is this intentional? Did I do something wrong, is this a bug, or not yet implemented? Through work I had a lot to do with Debian recently, and there, multiple repository configuration is easy, dependency resolution a matter of seconds - beats the living daylights out of zmd. Sorry, but has to be said. No inst-sources are online yet, so can't test the yast tool(s) for sources config and repo handling. Major: Installation went smooth as, except for grub installation, which is as critically broken as it is in 10.1. Yast proposes /etc/grub.conf which grub --batch http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
Wow, that looks just ever so much better than 10.1!!
Cool photo when booting the DVD.
The package selection and the use of colour is really good.
The "evaluation" bit when configuring the installation is superbly fast now.
Minor:
When clicking on "more info" to find out exactly what information will be transmitted to Novell for update-source configuration, the first message is "contacting server". A bit of a laugh, but not a good idea for boosting confidence in privacy.
Details of the files sent can be verified, perhaps some words up front to reassure a new user would help, though most windows users I know would immediately still be suspicious of something that doesn't do its dirty work in secret.
During package selection (as part of initial install) I de-selected zmd, zen-updater, and whatever the third one is in the same group. They still got installed and used though. Is this intentional? Did I do something wrong, is this a bug, or not yet implemented?
Through work I had a lot to do with Debian recently, and there, multiple repository configuration is easy, dependency resolution a matter of seconds - beats the living daylights out of zmd. Sorry, but has to be said.
No inst-sources are online yet, so can't test the yast tool(s) for sources config and repo handling.
Right here has been my problem since Alpha, YaST complains it can't mount my DVD when it comes to installing or upgrading. I've filed a new bug #220206.
Major:
Installation went smooth as, except for grub installation, which is as critically broken as it is in 10.1. Yast proposes /etc/grub.conf which grub --batch
More later,
Volker
I booted from the DVD and selected the Upgrade option which went smoothly until the kdm login, then the mouse pointer was all over the place like a fly hit by fly spray. Reinstalling NVidia-9629 cured that. So just the DVD mounting problem in YaST to be solved. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Saturday 11 November 2006 19:17, Volker Kuhlmann wrote:
Installation went smooth as, except for grub installation, which is as critically broken as it is in 10.1.
I have to say I'm shocked that this wasn't fixed... ask for GRUB to be installed to the boot partition's boot record and it overwrites the MBR loader instead without warning??? Scandalous! I would have taken copies of the DVD installer for beta 2 to yesterday's local Linux users group meeting, but went empty-handed because of this. -- Glenn Holmer (Q-Link: ShadowM) http://www.lyonlabs.org/commodore/c64.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Glenn Holmer schrieb:
I have to say I'm shocked that this wasn't fixed... ask for GRUB to be installed to the boot partition's boot record and it overwrites the MBR loader instead without warning??? Scandalous! I would have taken copies of the DVD installer for beta 2 to yesterday's local Linux users group meeting, but went empty-handed because of this.
You're wrong, the grub installation is broken in a different way in Beta2 than in Beta1, it's just missing some lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst. There is nothing "scandalous" about it and it does not overwrite the MBR. Please try yourself before making such a judgement. The problem with the incomplete /boot/grub/menu.lst is btw. already fixed according to Bugzilla, but a few hours too late for Beta2. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Sunday 12 November 2006 07:20, Andreas Hanke wrote:
You're wrong, the grub installation is broken in a different way in Beta2 than in Beta1, it's just missing some lines in /boot/grub/menu.lst.
There is nothing "scandalous" about it and it does not overwrite the MBR. Please try yourself before making such a judgement.
Oh! you are right! I had tried it on three machines, but all three had beta 1 installed previously, so naturally the MBR pointed there again. I booted back to 10.1, told him to write his GRUB to the MBR, then booted again and used the chainloader command against 10.2's boot partition. His boot menu then showed normally (I had already fixed it to see the basilisk), which shows that the GRUB install did indeed work correctly. I stand corrected, and apologize to the smart guys at Novell :) I will bring beta 2 DVDs to our user group's "Beer Meeting" on Wednesday: http://milwaukeelug.org/tiki/tiki-index.php?page=BeerMeetingAtendees -- Glenn Holmer (Q-Link: ShadowM) http://www.lyonlabs.org/commodore/c64.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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