[opensuse-factory] Libvirt in Tumbleweed
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi all, I was interested in switching to Tumbleweed but was wondering if libvirt is stable enough to use as I require it for my day to day work. Basically what I mean is, does libvirt break regularly on tumbleweed or will I be okay with it between updates? - -- Regards, Uzair Shamim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVBhpCAAoJEM66EOTZRH6+pA8P/0Q0PkbOG3pKuDWtY/xpY1Hg f4+KIrA6sm8EWeOXJhZmf8OwuSY9dWUF+TjJcWfXTYQGkqNXOvEWKWpjP2zJcP27 ykR1lOluq3LDcmxyAFP8VNGCduEaV7c17ZhiC7qIdBtTR8rLb3H9TbPzN97Wwsgo GwA+g9ZHRaou8QHanN3wgisnx3Us52ZiEIj+1KjDd7WQK6y1cK/HGNp8qjSBKS4s 5agBriEdGtzD4CuDrbJKOqsrBcN8b2IunwcFQub55vbzYu7lxERWnJzTDL7mlrNp vQc0Be9Jed5JZBTgnotVoAwnpR9dAwESe3GR14S5LQP+om0pJGud1fGk8ajBKVAO BQtW0wv4AhDI9ipQLNP6a/phSi5NcO/dJZ8wg0pzoCFxwO/rfhRp7jT8oroAKH05 Tii2FGrTnh7YzR+kv86zpjLUXv8smUmzxoAn43cFUR3MAB8M7G+BUFIP8Wj7dCi2 JkerYrvd8mIF8J7AHExyXBTBq2t47eJVauzg9pHwFUok7eSf4aEG4LF6p3T+Lwfq +t7gl48XeoL2eP6hUtmZ27hB21BLGUOzQ4c9G3MEXTND1fM6G9V9y6zuz70Y5x/o GzNXIGhlQPOzrEeK/riExWyZGwuTaAaYZAg7R5elVk3hEJY8OW5tRscQw3Zu8QdP tcevMw39lcFM4puR057r =aoOF -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sun, 2015-03-15 at 19:48 -0400, Uzair Shamim wrote:
Hi all,
I was interested in switching to Tumbleweed but was wondering if libvirt is stable enough to use as I require it for my day to day work. Basically what I mean is, does libvirt break regularly on tumbleweed or will I be okay with it between updates?
One would hope that maintainers think content is stable when they poke the "ship it" button ;-) If you're using btrfs/snapper, you can roll back should (inevitable, regardless of release) breakage slip through. -Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 16/03/15 04:49, Mike Galbraith wrote:
On Sun, 2015-03-15 at 19:48 -0400, Uzair Shamim wrote:
Hi all,
I was interested in switching to Tumbleweed but was wondering if libvirt is stable enough to use as I require it for my day to day work. Basically what I mean is, does libvirt break regularly on tumbleweed or will I be okay with it between updates?
One would hope that maintainers think content is stable when they poke the "ship it" button ;-) If you're using btrfs/snapper, you can roll back should (inevitable, regardless of release) breakage slip through.
-Mike
I moved to TW in Jan this year. I don't use btrfs, I chose ext4fs. I did not know about snapper/btrfs at the time. However, I do image my root partition before a large update using a third-party tool so that I can restore it if I need to. It only takes 5 minutes even on my 7-year-old machine and gives me peace of mind if something goes wrong. So far, so good ..... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2015-03-16 at 09:02 +0000, David Cooper wrote:
On 16/03/15 04:49, Mike Galbraith wrote:
On Sun, 2015-03-15 at 19:48 -0400, Uzair Shamim wrote:
Hi all,
I was interested in switching to Tumbleweed but was wondering if libvirt is stable enough to use as I require it for my day to day work. Basically what I mean is, does libvirt break regularly on tumbleweed or will I be okay with it between updates?
One would hope that maintainers think content is stable when they poke the "ship it" button ;-) If you're using btrfs/snapper, you can roll back should (inevitable, regardless of release) breakage slip through.
-Mike
I moved to TW in Jan this year. I don't use btrfs, I chose ext4fs. I did not know about snapper/btrfs at the time. However, I do image my root partition before a large update using a third-party tool so that I can restore it if I need to. It only takes 5 minutes even on my 7-year-old machine and gives me peace of mind if something goes wrong. So far, so good .....
I mirror ext4 as well. I was going to give btrfs a go, but encountered backward compatibility issues. Met the same with xfs. I'm too lazy to research whatever creation time flags I need for the other two when ext4 just works out of the box, so ext4 it is ;-) -Mike -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 03/16/2015 12:49 AM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
On Sun, 2015-03-15 at 19:48 -0400, Uzair Shamim wrote:
Hi all,
I was interested in switching to Tumbleweed but was wondering if libvirt is stable enough to use as I require it for my day to day work. Basically what I mean is, does libvirt break regularly on tumbleweed or will I be okay with it between updates?
One would hope that maintainers think content is stable when they poke the "ship it" button ;-) If you're using btrfs/snapper, you can roll back should (inevitable, regardless of release) breakage slip through.
-Mike
Fair enough but in the past (around 13.2 release) I used tumbleweed and had issues with libvirt not working for me so I was just wondering if that was a one time thing :S But I guess you are right, I would be able to roll back using btrfs... - -- Regards, Uzair Shamim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBAgAGBQJVBttpAAoJEM66EOTZRH6+OaQP/A1Vz5m33VMD0ZBAOElWJm/D zCbkPEdBD3jLfTb49317HJAGufiXFbMC6JDjK/G8TIgg0DHj/8BP88x4B6WaYIjV LIBKDY/2b4fKvIQ3TonjhpwCX4u8rKyQwOai+7TFSwtPyDPl0TmP9zeifbB/fvk3 hMUwXYGmJ5p/Rb2f7jhIryUtKO+OzIC9m25mWH8gE+mc8meSSbRP4rM8P6vAI/LX R8srPpJ22NGGAyuoaANeBSdJYVduPOxIdMbS26UFsXGnqaiZWhaB3OJqGVbo5zEg h7vq0l+F82Ff6hgZM2Ui1b5+RK9Xik+PNfcuTRs6TVYBP1epulDCzBvY7hlCNsLp dqAjFhHONLxPt2g6QEDQtyAYyc76SvyIZ4VtyAXjoYolzuwL1anrw/TQupN9tJuB cajEIUJ+ps/WG7+5wuBqA/Mc5SWDofNPOc0ZyKpPPiPXBSOpIdGTb7J5z9gGTyxf UnKO07PcJnTmwPU8fDr6R2Cme8RYGp5JVilYUU6mxvGjjP0wRM1VEh4xqM1waoC5 aEeaQYaJf06SkJUB7Scf1iAhSvZF1WyHlTf97hSzz7jShzf9lCp0Tn4Sw58YIfmk jFoVqGW73PumTvsKGfVV9sbipDCoOUnM3IJWi3Cb9GwqdpgZ/nfVBsjMa7N10gGo kMQTGrxWrGdL3mIv6CaW =yzGO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/16/2015 09:32 AM, Uzair Shamim wrote:
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On 03/16/2015 12:49 AM, Mike Galbraith wrote:
On Sun, 2015-03-15 at 19:48 -0400, Uzair Shamim wrote:
Hi all,
I was interested in switching to Tumbleweed but was wondering if libvirt is stable enough to use as I require it for my day to day work. Basically what I mean is, does libvirt break regularly on tumbleweed or will I be okay with it between updates?
One would hope that maintainers think content is stable when they poke the "ship it" button ;-) If you're using btrfs/snapper, you can roll back should (inevitable, regardless of release) breakage slip through.
-Mike
Fair enough but in the past (around 13.2 release) I used tumbleweed and had issues with libvirt not working for me so I was just wondering if that was a one time thing :S
Keep in mind that when 13.2 was released TW was totally changed to its current model and that may have been a factor. -- Ken Schneider -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 16 March 2015 09:32:25 Uzair Shamim wrote:
Fair enough but in the past (around 13.2 release) I used tumbleweed and had issues with libvirt not working for me so I was just wondering if that was a one time thing :S
No it's not: https://bugzilla.opensuse.org/show_bug.cgi?id=920551 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 16.03.2015 um 22:07 schrieb Lorenz Hüdepohl:
On Monday 16 March 2015 09:32:25 Uzair Shamim wrote:
Fair enough but in the past (around 13.2 release) I used tumbleweed and had issues with libvirt not working for me so I was just wondering if that was a one time thing :S
No it's not:
But it works well without virt-manager :-) Or after "rpm -e --nodeps libvirt-daemon-driver-interface" -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Lorenz Hüdepohl wrote:
On Monday 16 March 2015 09:32:25 Uzair Shamim wrote:
Fair enough but in the past (around 13.2 release) I used tumbleweed and had issues with libvirt not working for me so I was just wondering if that was a one time thing :S
No it's not:
This is the only tumbleweed regression wrt libvirt I'm aware of. Perhaps Uzair was also hitting that bug. Our CI missed that bug since we currently don't run NM on our test hosts. Adding such a test has been placed on our CI todo list. Regards, Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 03/17/2015 11:56 AM, Jim Fehlig wrote:
Lorenz Hüdepohl wrote:
On Monday 16 March 2015 09:32:25 Uzair Shamim wrote:
Fair enough but in the past (around 13.2 release) I used tumbleweed and had issues with libvirt not working for me so I was just wondering if that was a one time thing :S
No it's not:
This is the only tumbleweed regression wrt libvirt I'm aware of. Perhaps Uzair was also hitting that bug.
Our CI missed that bug since we currently don't run NM on our test hosts. Adding such a test has been placed on our CI todo list.
Regards, Jim
Well the initial problems were a couple months ago, but I did just switch to Tumbleweed and ran into this bug. However, Stefans workaround did solve the issue for me so all is working at the moment :) I guess I will just have to roll back with btrfs and post here/on bugzilla about any bugs I run into and pray they get fixed fast :D - -- Regards, Uzair Shamim -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iQIcBAEBCAAGBQJVCN1tAAoJEM66EOTZRH6+4ZsP/jwZxV7A2yx1WuS6026M9b5K u6p9KF4sZbTOpw+L6Nx8tX9iBbRpTMvmn1rs7gyn+w1fjS6DrWzN+8WsFifVpzLH vwLoorBy2C7PD6f+Kb645Db1dWu0PCQGj/yIdj7BJ5RlgSG9gwmsS/BvcTXYyEEl 9EInUSR8/qwST1LHQYir5HlNicDmuddNOEqP5aK9qHLEQSqcymWhfO6p5MbtwplI VFqOdljy8ikRwjnQsClGNJh7Qo9zWRdpPQfc86pASrcuFiMPbq3E0Qn/UjTvVy8J 9sovPhS7daaLV+YcdP9bvtVqUyQ60rZm4ZDCaAwrtrE/r6BYm3Izc1HHhSdnliNO 5sdtchRpVIO1J6C2L3CtoAd7HrDH8c/XGR7HQugaUyJxovl++lB5RmLGNhcxAMvO lJjxzJDNS713hMPw618HLA1PBJcofX5DQAnDuPdKMYbnkmZiHxs66CVqbcT1KFtJ Wsi8l/EwoH7ViNFNb/VWf4xS8vMpcvAmvbxGtOKi5sJqcvutM/yc6VeUalR9GpVt 5zVh5qH3ACTdpGdBiJoPMI2dBc9rNXTCxWQXYyp1KKKa5JXtGehY8GmQeB6s6zpR 4kI/YSLI1NWH7Ch4jX8zOifZR/taybglOhgk01DV17aaS49ot0JUCLqErHsbraA5 06q3MbT8Ha32KARE6npq =GmAB -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Mike Galbraith wrote:
On Sun, 2015-03-15 at 19:48 -0400, Uzair Shamim wrote:
Hi all,
I was interested in switching to Tumbleweed but was wondering if libvirt is stable enough to use as I require it for my day to day work. Basically what I mean is, does libvirt break regularly on tumbleweed or will I be okay with it between updates?
One would hope that maintainers think content is stable when they poke the "ship it" button ;-) If you're using btrfs/snapper, you can roll back should (inevitable, regardless of release) breakage slip through.
Yes, we ensure virt-related packages pass our CI testing before pushing the "ship" button. But it may miss regressions in configurations not tested, like the one mentioned later in this thread. Regards, Jim -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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