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Dominique Leuenberger

13 Aug 2010 13 Aug '10

07:23

Hi everybody, Lately I observe that zypper and yast try to install (as recommended) kernel-default on my system. I currently run kernel-desktop, at the latest version as published in Factory. How can I find out what tries to pull in kernel-default? "zypper inr" only tells me it wants to install it, but not why. zypper inr --debug-solver creates some nice nifty xml and .gz files, but I seem not able to look for the right things there :) any pointers are appreciated. Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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Andreas Jaeger

13 Aug 13 Aug

07:41

On Friday 13 August 2010 09:23:33 Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

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Hi everybody,

Lately I observe that zypper and yast try to install (as recommended) kernel-default on my system. I currently run kernel-desktop, at the latest version as published in Factory.

How can I find out what tries to pull in kernel-default?

"zypper inr" only tells me it wants to install it, but not why. zypper inr --debug-solver creates some nice nifty xml and .gz files, but I seem not able to look for the right things there :)

any pointers are appreciated.

Dominique

One of the gz files will contain something like (I checked why evolution- pilot got installed): <recommends> <dep name='gnome-bluetooth' /> <dep name='seahorse' /> <dep name='vino' /> <dep name='dasher' /> <dep name='deskbar-applet' /> <dep name='gnome-user-share' /> <dep name='alacarte' /> <dep name='gftp' /> <dep name='multisync-gui' /> <dep name='evolution-pilot' /> <dep name='libopensync-plugin-file' /> </recommends> So, scrolling up a few lines showed me the culprit. Can you make a tar ball of the directory available? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Dominique Leuenberger

08:00

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On 08/13/2010 at 9:41 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote: One of the gz files will contain something like (I checked why evolution- pilot got installed): <recommends> <dep name='gnome-bluetooth' /> <dep name='seahorse' /> <dep name='vino' /> <dep name='dasher' /> <dep name='deskbar-applet' /> <dep name='gnome-user-share' /> <dep name='alacarte' /> <dep name='gftp' /> <dep name='multisync-gui' /> <dep name='evolution-pilot' /> <dep name='libopensync-plugin-file' /> </recommends>

I couldn't find anything directly like this, but then: those packages might provide much more than what I'm just looking for. As the tarball is a bit too large (3.2MB), I uploaded it to my server, where it can be downloaded from: http://opensuse.leuenberger.net/zypper-inr-kernel-default.tar If you think it makes sense, I of course can also create a bnc entry (should it take more than just a minute to figure it out :) ) Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Andreas Jaeger

08:13

On Friday 13 August 2010 10:00:34 Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

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[...] If you think it makes sense, I of course can also create a bnc entry (should it take more than just a minute to figure it out :) )

Dominique

I see that package-lists-openSUSE-X11-cd has a requires on kernel-default but I'm not sure whether that is installed. Yeah, this looks strange. I suggest to file a bugreport, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126

Stephan Kulow

24 Aug 24 Aug

13:52

Am Freitag 13 August 2010 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:

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On Friday 13 August 2010 10:00:34 Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

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[...] If you think it makes sense, I of course can also create a bnc entry (should it take more than just a minute to figure it out :) )

Dominique

I see that package-lists-openSUSE-X11-cd has a requires on kernel-default but I'm not sure whether that is installed. Yeah, this looks strange.

I suggest to file a bugreport,

preload recommends preload-kmp and this is provided by preload-kmp-desktop and preload-kmp-default. You have preload-kmp-desktop locked and as such the solver picks kernel-kmp-default, which requires kernel-default. Btw, you can use deptestomatic -v -v solver-test.xml to get some more informations. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Dominique Leuenberger

14:16

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On 08/24/2010 at 3:52 PM, Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Freitag 13 August 2010 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: On Friday 13 August 2010 10:00:34 Dominique Leuenberger wrote: [...] If you think it makes sense, I of course can also create a bnc entry (should it take more than just a minute to figure it out :) )

Dominique

I see that package-lists-openSUSE-X11-cd has a requires on kernel-default but I'm not sure whether that is installed. Yeah, this looks strange.

I suggest to file a bugreport,

preload recommends preload-kmp and this is provided by preload-kmp-desktop and preload-kmp-default. You have preload-kmp-desktop locked and as such the solver picks kernel-kmp-default, which requires kernel-default.

Btw, you can use deptestomatic -v -v solver-test.xml to get some more informations.

Stephan, thanks for your reply... It makes perfect sense, except that zypper seems not to agree: 3120-3560:/etc/zypp # zypper ll There are no package locks defined. 3120-3560:/etc/zypp # zypper inr Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following NEW packages are going to be installed: kernel-default preload-kmp-default 2 new packages to install. Overall download size: 31.9 MiB. After the operation, additional 128.2 MiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/?] (y): n Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Christian Trippe

17:19

On Tuesday 24 August 2010 16:16:27 Dominique Leuenberger wrote:

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On 08/24/2010 at 3:52 PM, Stephan Kulow wrote: Am Freitag 13 August 2010 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: On Friday 13 August 2010 10:00:34 Dominique Leuenberger wrote: [...] If you think it makes sense, I of course can also create a bnc entry (should it take more than just a minute to figure it out :) )

Dominique

I see that package-lists-openSUSE-X11-cd has a requires on kernel-default but I'm not sure whether that is installed. Yeah, this looks strange.

I suggest to file a bugreport,

preload recommends preload-kmp and this is provided by preload-kmp-desktop and preload-kmp-default. You have preload-kmp-desktop locked and as such the solver picks kernel-kmp-default, which requires kernel-default.

Btw, you can use deptestomatic -v -v solver-test.xml to get some more informations.

Stephan,

thanks for your reply... It makes perfect sense, except that zypper seems not to agree:

3120-3560:/etc/zypp # zypper ll There are no package locks defined. 3120-3560:/etc/zypp # zypper inr Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies...

The following NEW packages are going to be installed: kernel-default preload-kmp-default

2 new packages to install. Overall download size: 31.9 MiB. After the operation, additional 128.2 MiB will be used. Continue? [y/n/?] (y): n

Dominique

Only a guess: Maybe it is not (manually) locked but only soft locked. Have a look at /var/lib/zypp/SoftLocks Christian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Dominique Leuenberger

25 Aug 25 Aug

09:15

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On 08/24/2010 at 7:19 PM, Christian Trippe

Only a guess: Maybe it is not (manually) locked but only soft locked. Have a

look at /var/lib/zypp/SoftLocks

Good guess! Thanks. so now comes of course the question: who put it there, with what process and why? and why can't I interface this with zypper? Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Stephan Kulow

09:23

Am Mittwoch 25 August 2010 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger:

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On 08/24/2010 at 7:19 PM, Christian Trippe

Only a guess: Maybe it is not (manually) locked but only soft locked. Have a

look at /var/lib/zypp/SoftLocks

Good guess! Thanks.

so now comes of course the question: who put it there, with what process and why? and why can't I interface this with zypper?

You can. If you remove or add packages, it's added and removed there. E.g. if you install preload-kmp-desktop, it's removed and you have the problem no longer. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

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