[opensuse-factory] digikam-doc needlessy updated?
Today I saw an update for digikam from 4.6.0-2.1 to 4.6.0-3.1 in factory. This came with the same for digikam-doc -- a 19.3 MiB download. Curious on what might have changed I ran "md5sum `rpm -ql digikam-doc`" before and after the update. The only difference was this: < 6c48dddeaa281f26f3067929718cbe7a /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/digikam/index.cache.bz2
e6e1b8b7b18c27bc841544372e6185fa /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/digikam/index.cache.bz2 < 5cb9c3b41f6a0d8562aee3d5d6f212ac /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/showfoto/index.cache.bz2 c4849c0707407b18e8853e40139082f1 /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/showfoto/index.cache.bz2
So, 19.3 MiB download for, hmm, really nothing? 19.3 MiB may not appear much if one sits in the office or at home with a DSL line. When I was in Indonesia earlier this year, that would have been 10-15 minutes of download in most placed, possibly with one, two, or three restarts. Any chance to avoid this kind of update? (And, are those index.cache.bz2 files really necessary?) Gerald -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
El 26/01/15 a las 19:31, Gerald Pfeifer escribió:
Today I saw an update for digikam from 4.6.0-2.1 to 4.6.0-3.1 in factory.
This came with the same for digikam-doc -- a 19.3 MiB download.
Curious on what might have changed I ran "md5sum `rpm -ql digikam-doc`" before and after the update. The only difference was this:
< 6c48dddeaa281f26f3067929718cbe7a /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/digikam/index.cache.bz2
e6e1b8b7b18c27bc841544372e6185fa /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/digikam/index.cache.bz2 < 5cb9c3b41f6a0d8562aee3d5d6f212ac /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/showfoto/index.cache.bz2 c4849c0707407b18e8853e40139082f1 /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/showfoto/index.cache.bz2
So, 19.3 MiB download for, hmm, really nothing?
/usr/bin/meinproc4 --check --cache does not create reproducible cache files. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
In data lunedì 26 gennaio 2015 19:40:22, Cristian Rodríguez ha scritto:
/usr/bin/meinproc4 --check --cache does not create reproducible cache files.
I mentioned this upstream, and they gave this suggestion: [23:44] <tosky> einar77: check fedora patches, they use a quick sed to remove the problem iirc I have tried looking, but I didn't find them, though. -- Luca Beltrame - KDE Forums team KDE Science supporter GPG key ID: 6E1A4E79
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 26.01.2015 23:53, Luca Beltrame wrote:
In data lunedì 26 gennaio 2015 19:40:22, Cristian Rodríguez ha scritto:
/usr/bin/meinproc4 --check --cache does not create reproducible cache files.
I mentioned this upstream, and they gave this suggestion:
[23:44] <tosky> einar77: check fedora patches, they use a quick sed to remove the problem iirc
I have tried looking, but I didn't find them, though.
build-compare does that sed trick. But it doesn't matter. An update from 4.6.0-2.1 to 4.6.0-3.1 is a source commit with a new changelog: [ 1758s] - 1421323200 tittiatcoke@gmail.com - libkface is now a separate package. Do not use the bundled [ 1758s] - version on opensUSE 13.2 and higher. [ 1758s] + 1422100800 adrian@suse.de - old libkgeomap package provides older lib with same so name, adding [ 1758s] + an explizit requires These changes might not bring any benefit, but this is not about meinproc - it's a real change in the package and we publish real changes in packages. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2015-01-27 10:57, Stephan Kulow wrote:
These changes might not bring any benefit, but this is not about meinproc - it's a real change in the package and we publish real changes in packages.
Er... as a trivial change can trigger a 19 MB download, couldn't delta packages be produced for factory? -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar)
Am 27.01.2015 um 22:10 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2015-01-27 10:57, Stephan Kulow wrote:
These changes might not bring any benefit, but this is not about meinproc - it's a real change in the package and we publish real changes in packages.
Er... as a trivial change can trigger a 19 MB download, couldn't delta packages be produced for factory?
How many of them do you want to produce? People might update only every few weeks, so you need to make *lots* of deltarpms. For Geralds problem "rpm -e digikam-doc" would be the solution: nobody is going to read 19.3MB of documentation anyway, given that people do not even read short README's :-P -- Stefan Seyfried "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." -- Richard Feynman -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On 2015-01-28 01:31, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Am 27.01.2015 um 22:10 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Er... as a trivial change can trigger a 19 MB download, couldn't delta packages be produced for factory?
How many of them do you want to produce? People might update only every few weeks, so you need to make *lots* of deltarpms.
I don't know. I suppose one per package and per update, so of course, many. But then maybe it is possible to only produce them for large packages coupled with some other decision criteria. Perhaps it is possible to calculate the size ratio of delta to full package, then decide to publish the delta or not. And then a purge process has to clear them out after a number of days. I simply do not know if it is feasible or worth it. But not everybody has a good internet: me, for instance, I have only 1 Mbit/s connection, so tumbleweed is ruled out, plain simple... - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 13.1 x86_64 "Bottle" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.22 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlTIORgACgkQtTMYHG2NR9WSzACaAq1Z0EC57EHQ+W+hcWU/XaWE aTMAoJB2KwtOYi1dX5r1g1H9yXc8rC75 =xv7i -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 10:19 PM, Carlos E. R.
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On 2015-01-28 01:31, Stefan Seyfried wrote:
Am 27.01.2015 um 22:10 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
Er... as a trivial change can trigger a 19 MB download, couldn't delta packages be produced for factory?
How many of them do you want to produce? People might update only every few weeks, so you need to make *lots* of deltarpms.
I don't know. I suppose one per package and per update, so of course, many. But then maybe it is possible to only produce them for large packages coupled with some other decision criteria. Perhaps it is possible to calculate the size ratio of delta to full package, then decide to publish the delta or not. And then a purge process has to clear them out after a number of days.
I simply do not know if it is feasible or worth it. But not everybody has a good internet: me, for instance, I have only 1 Mbit/s connection, so tumbleweed is ruled out, plain simple...
I thought all these criteria were already built into OBS and it was just a matter of enabling or not. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Am 27.01.2015 um 22:10 schrieb Carlos E. R.:
On 2015-01-27 10:57, Stephan Kulow wrote:
These changes might not bring any benefit, but this is not about meinproc - it's a real change in the package and we publish real changes in packages.
Er... as a trivial change can trigger a 19 MB download, couldn't delta packages be produced for factory?
Most definitely. Also for the ISOs it would make sense - let the patches coming Greetings, Stephan - -- Ma muaß weiterkämpfen, kämpfen bis zum Umfalln, a wenn die ganze Welt an Arsch offen hat, oder grad deswegn. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlTIfzQACgkQwFSBhlBjoJYw5gCeKyUP0rMDjRYHSwOHe6ZnuHh2 4D8AniVGsEJ+T86U4lP3j50dFW24Ckpq =UCKs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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