[opensuse-factory] 10.3 install problem
Hardware: Compaq Presario 1720US laptop P3 1G cpu 256M ram During first attempt to install (fresh) while selecting custom software choices the system became very sluggish and eventually crashed the installer. In trying to recreate the problem the system became sluggish again but did not crash and once swap was added the system became responsive again. This could become a big issue for low ram systems where a custom software selection is made. I believe this can be verified by someone else that has a low ram system and by using the "expert" area of the software selection. If you poke around in the various patterns and also use search to select and deselect packages I think this problem can be easily reproduced. Perhaps asking to mount the swap partition before going to the summary screen would be appropriate. After my laptop install is finished I will repeat the process and try to reproduce the crash. If successful I will open a bug report. Ken --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 04 October 2007 09:47:58 am Kenneth Schneider wrote:
Hardware:
Compaq Presario 1720US laptop P3 1G cpu 256M ram
During first attempt to install (fresh) while selecting custom software choices the system became very sluggish and eventually crashed the installer. In trying to recreate the problem the system became sluggish again but did not crash and once swap was added the system became responsive again. This could become a big issue for low ram systems where a custom software selection is made. I believe this can be verified by someone else that has a low ram system and by using the "expert" area of the software selection. If you poke around in the various patterns and also use search to select and deselect packages I think this problem can be easily reproduced. Perhaps asking to mount the swap partition before going to the summary screen would be appropriate. After my laptop install is finished I will repeat the process and try to reproduce the crash. If successful I will open a bug report.
Ken
What are minimum system requirements for 10.3? It is better to tell new users not to make custom software selection on systems that are below minimum. BTW, the low memory can be "emulated" with kernel parameter mem=256M or whatever small amount one wants to test. -- Regards, Rajko. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. napsal(a):
On Thursday 04 October 2007 09:47:58 am Kenneth Schneider wrote:
Hardware:
Compaq Presario 1720US laptop P3 1G cpu 256M ram
During first attempt to install (fresh) while selecting custom software choices the system became very sluggish and eventually crashed the installer. In trying to recreate the problem the system became sluggish again but did not crash and once swap was added the system became responsive again. This could become a big issue for low ram systems where a custom software selection is made. ... Perhaps asking to mount the swap partition before going to the summary screen would be appropriate. After my laptop install is finished I will repeat the process and try to reproduce the crash. If successful I will open a bug report.
Ken
What are minimum system requirements for 10.3? It is better to tell new users not to make custom software selection on systems that are below minimum.
BTW, the low memory can be "emulated" with kernel parameter mem=256M or whatever small amount one wants to test.
For 10.2 the memory requirements were minimum=256 MB RAM for a new basic installation without any additional repositories, 512 (384) with add-ons. In case of update on low-memory system, Linuxrc should mount the swap partition automatically. This might be problematic for new installation on a computer without any swap (or not yet created swap). Anyway, it's always an issue to balance between the amount of available features, software and memory requirements. In this particular case, you might try LiveCD system but I don't promise it will be any better. Bye Lukas
Lukas Ocilka wrote:
Rajko M. napsal(a):
For 10.2 the memory requirements were minimum=256 MB RAM for a new basic installation without any additional repositories, 512 (384) with add-ons.
In case of update on low-memory system, Linuxrc should mount the swap partition automatically. This might be problematic for new installation on a computer without any swap (or not yet created swap).
I can confirm that it works in 10.3, at least while upgrading from a system with swap partition. I finished installation with 192MB of RAM without any ugly hacks. -- Best Regards / S pozdravem, Stanislav Brabec software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: sbrabec@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 966 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 10:03 +0200, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
Rajko M. napsal(a):
On Thursday 04 October 2007 09:47:58 am Kenneth Schneider wrote:
Hardware:
Compaq Presario 1720US laptop P3 1G cpu 256M ram
During first attempt to install (fresh) while selecting custom software choices the system became very sluggish and eventually crashed the installer. In trying to recreate the problem the system became sluggish again but did not crash and once swap was added the system became responsive again. This could become a big issue for low ram systems where a custom software selection is made. ... Perhaps asking to mount the swap partition before going to the summary screen would be appropriate. After my laptop install is finished I will repeat the process and try to reproduce the crash. If successful I will open a bug report.
Ken
What are minimum system requirements for 10.3? It is better to tell new users not to make custom software selection on systems that are below minimum.
BTW, the low memory can be "emulated" with kernel parameter mem=256M or whatever small amount one wants to test.
For 10.2 the memory requirements were minimum=256 MB RAM for a new basic installation without any additional repositories, 512 (384) with add-ons.
In case of update on low-memory system, Linuxrc should mount the swap partition automatically. This might be problematic for new installation on a computer without any swap (or not yet created swap).
Anyway, it's always an issue to balance between the amount of available features, software and memory requirements. In this particular case, you might try LiveCD system but I don't promise it will be any better.
Yes, but at this point of the install the harddrive has been polled and partitions set and it would be very easy to create and/or mount the swap partition. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Dňa Friday 05 October 2007 14:12:07 Kenneth Schneider ste napísal:
On Fri, 2007-10-05 at 10:03 +0200, Lukas Ocilka wrote:
Rajko M. napsal(a):
On Thursday 04 October 2007 09:47:58 am Kenneth Schneider wrote:
Hardware:
Compaq Presario 1720US laptop P3 1G cpu 256M ram
During first attempt to install (fresh) while selecting custom software choices the system became very sluggish and eventually crashed the installer. In trying to recreate the problem the system became sluggish again but did not crash and once swap was added the system became responsive again. This could become a big issue for low ram systems where a custom software selection is made. ... Perhaps asking to mount the swap partition before going to the summary screen would be appropriate. After my laptop install is finished I will repeat the process and try to reproduce the crash. If successful I will open a bug report.
Ken
What are minimum system requirements for 10.3? It is better to tell new users not to make custom software selection on systems that are below minimum.
BTW, the low memory can be "emulated" with kernel parameter mem=256M or whatever small amount one wants to test.
For 10.2 the memory requirements were minimum=256 MB RAM for a new basic installation without any additional repositories, 512 (384) with add-ons.
In case of update on low-memory system, Linuxrc should mount the swap partition automatically. This might be problematic for new installation on a computer without any swap (or not yet created swap).
Anyway, it's always an issue to balance between the amount of available features, software and memory requirements. In this particular case, you might try LiveCD system but I don't promise it will be any better.
Yes, but at this point of the install the harddrive has been polled and partitions set and it would be very easy to create and/or mount the swap partition.
http://en.opensuse.org/Linuxrc See the options how to activate swap even before YaST checks the partitions. Stano --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Anyway, it's always an issue to balance between the amount of available features, software and memory requirements. In this particular case, you might try LiveCD system but I don't promise it will be any better. Yes, but at this point of the install the harddrive has been polled and partitions set and it would be very easy to create and/or mount the swap partition.
http://en.opensuse.org/Linuxrc
See the options how to activate swap even before YaST checks the partitions.
Stano
Also see http://en.opensuse.org/Installation_with_Little_Memory - maybe it could do with a few changes for 10.3 -- Cheers Richard (MQ) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Stanislav Visnovsky napsal(a):
http://en.opensuse.org/Linuxrc
See the options how to activate swap even before YaST checks the partitions.
Good point, however Linuxrc should activate swap automatically on a low-memory machine, but such swap partition must exist, of course. Any new or renewed ideas how to reduce memory usage during installation are welcome. Lukas
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Kenneth Schneider -
Lukas Ocilka -
Rajko M. -
Richard (MQ) -
Stanislav Brabec -
Stanislav Visnovsky