Anybody still into SUPER?
Is there still movement with SLICK or SUPER. I don't see any recent progress and as far as I can see no 10.1 version. What I would be looking at is a file list for the 1 CD version and a *.sel file for 10.1 However if nobody is interested in it anymore, I am not going to put time and efford in it. -- houghi http://houghi.org http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier...
On Sat, May 27, 2006 at 05:05:19PM +0200, houghi wrote:
Is there still movement with SLICK or SUPER. I don't see any recent progress and as far as I can see no 10.1 version.
What I would be looking at is a file list for the 1 CD version and a *.sel file for 10.1 However if nobody is interested in it anymore, I am not going to put time and efford in it.
If nobody is interested in this anymore, should we remove the pages? -- houghi http://houghi.org http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier...
Is there still movement with SLICK or SUPER. I don't see any recent progress and as far as I can see no 10.1 version.
What I would be looking at is a file list for the 1 CD version and a *.sel file for 10.1 However if nobody is interested in it anymore, I am not going to put time and efford in it.
I've been watching for an update for many months, there's been essentially nothing new at http://en.opensuse.org/SUPER since the 10.0 version late last year. Nothing at all this year on opensuse-optimize@opensuse.org (or maybe my subscription is broken) My guess is that 10.1 is a step in the wrong direction as far as the "optimising" is concerned, maybe when the problems with updates are resolved it might be worth picking up. This is only my guess though - I am not involved except as a would-be user. Certainly I find 10.1 unusable on low-end machines that run 10.0 just fine. Any comments from anyone on the project team? Regards, -- Richard mailto:osl@16hd.freeserve.co.uk
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:07:55AM +0100, osl@16hd.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
Is there still movement with SLICK or SUPER. I don't see any recent progress and as far as I can see no 10.1 version.
What I would be looking at is a file list for the 1 CD version and a *.sel file for 10.1 However if nobody is interested in it anymore, I am not going to put time and efford in it.
I've been watching for an update for many months, there's been essentially nothing new at http://en.opensuse.org/SUPER since the 10.0 version late last year. Nothing at all this year on opensuse-optimize@opensuse.org (or maybe my subscription is broken)
My guess is that 10.1 is a step in the wrong direction as far as the "optimising" is concerned, maybe when the problems with updates are resolved it might be worth picking up. This is only my guess though - I am not involved except as a would-be user. Certainly I find 10.1 unusable on low-end machines that run 10.0 just fine.
Any comments from anyone on the project team?
Most of the optimizations found its way into the product itself ;) Ciao, Marcus
2006/5/30, Marcus Meissner
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:07:55AM +0100, osl@16hd.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
Is there still movement with SLICK or SUPER. I don't see any recent progress and as far as I can see no 10.1 version.
What I would be looking at is a file list for the 1 CD version and a *.sel file for 10.1 However if nobody is interested in it anymore, I am not going to put time and efford in it.
I've been watching for an update for many months, there's been essentially nothing new at http://en.opensuse.org/SUPER since the 10.0 version late last year. Nothing at all this year on opensuse-optimize@opensuse.org (or maybe my subscription is broken)
My guess is that 10.1 is a step in the wrong direction as far as the "optimising" is concerned, maybe when the problems with updates are resolved it might be worth picking up. This is only my guess though - I am not involved except as a would-be user. Certainly I find 10.1 unusable on low-end machines that run 10.0 just fine.
Any comments from anyone on the project team?
Most of the optimizations found its way into the product itself
Can You explain how? (I do'nt understand) (Ich verstehe über haup nicht was haben sie gesagt) Thanks
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 08:53:21AM -0300, Juan Erbes wrote:
2006/5/30, Marcus Meissner
: On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 11:07:55AM +0100, osl@16hd.freeserve.co.uk wrote:
Is there still movement with SLICK or SUPER. I don't see any recent progress and as far as I can see no 10.1 version.
What I would be looking at is a file list for the 1 CD version and a *.sel file for 10.1 However if nobody is interested in it anymore, I am not going to put time and efford in it.
I've been watching for an update for many months, there's been essentially nothing new at http://en.opensuse.org/SUPER since the 10.0 version late last year. Nothing at all this year on opensuse-optimize@opensuse.org (or maybe my subscription is broken)
My guess is that 10.1 is a step in the wrong direction as far as the "optimising" is concerned, maybe when the problems with updates are resolved it might be worth picking up. This is only my guess though - I am not involved except as a would-be user. Certainly I find 10.1 unusable on low-end machines that run 10.0 just fine.
Any comments from anyone on the project team?
Most of the optimizations found its way into the product itself
Can You explain how? (I do'nt understand) (Ich verstehe über haup nicht was haben sie gesagt)
- speedups using preload -> are in 10.1 - the 1 CD thing ... well, its possible to do, but not really product specific. Ciao, Marcus
Marcus Meissner wrote:
Most of the optimizations found its way into the product itself ;)
I see this, but the other part of the project, the "1 cd install" is still usefull. If such a project still lives, I will participate jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 03:07:32PM +0200, jdd wrote:
Marcus Meissner wrote:
Most of the optimizations found its way into the product itself ;)
I see this, but the other part of the project, the "1 cd install" is still usefull. If such a project still lives, I will participate
If you are able to make a *.sel and a list of files that you want to use, then it is very easy. 1) makeSUSEdvd -i (with the CD's you need) 2) Edit control.xml, add your *.sel file and delete everything you don't need. (1) 3) makeSUSEdvd -C I can however imagine that the need for that is also reduced, because SUSE now has a 1CD installation, although without KDE. (1) It would not be too hard to put this in a script, so people don't need to download the whole CD. -- houghi http://houghi.org http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier...
houghi wrote:
If you are able to make a *.sel and a list of files that you want to use, then it is very easy.
Yes, I know, I've seen this already. but the point is this, what is the file list :-)
I can however imagine that the need for that is also reduced, because SUSE now has a 1CD installation, although without KDE.
only text and only english what we need could be a way to know approw what size is needed for a package and all it's dependencies. say I want the minimal text install. what do I need on the cd? the .sel don't gives me all the yast install stuff (do it?) I will probably have to make a vmware install or such and text one by one. and on the dependencies many can be ignored. what ones? I see this as a work for the build service. Is it a good idea or not? can the build service build distros with only the minimal set of requirements? jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/galerie_photo_web/expo/index.html http://lucien.dodin.net http://fr.susewiki.org/index.php?title=Gérer_ses_photos
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 03:48:25PM +0200, jdd wrote:
houghi wrote:
If you are able to make a *.sel and a list of files that you want to use, then it is very easy.
Yes, I know, I've seen this already. but the point is this, what is the file list :-)
That is for the interested people to find out. <snip>
and on the dependencies many can be ignored. what ones?
I believe the original person did this with trial and error. Remove everything, add what you want (e.g. a kernel and KDE), let YaST solve everything and save the *.sel file.
I see this as a work for the build service. Is it a good idea or not? can the build service build distros with only the minimal set of requirements?
No idea if this would be something that can be handled by that. My first guestimate would be no. Also because each person might have a different idea on what should be minimal and what not. It could be interesting to see other peoples *.sel. Yet as long as nobody realy takes a look at it, it won't happen. -- houghi http://houghi.org http://www.plainfaqs.org/linux/ http://www.netmeister.org/news/learn2quote.html
Today I went outside. My pupils have never been tinier...
On Tue, May 30, 2006 at 03:07:32PM +0200, jdd wrote:
Marcus Meissner wrote:
Most of the optimizations found its way into the product itself ;)
I see this, but the other part of the project, the "1 cd install" is still usefull. If such a project still lives, I will participate
It can be easily reopened using makeSUSEdvd ;) Ciao, Marcus
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