[opensuse-factory] No progress
Some of my requests for Factory are waiting for a week now. I wonder what happened? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday, September 29, 2011 12:00:23 Ilya Chernykh wrote:
Some of my requests for Factory are waiting for a week now.
I wonder what happened?
Please give us the ids of the submit requests - and check yourself the status with: osc rq show $id Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 September 2011 14:43:27 Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Some of my requests for Factory are waiting for a week now.
I wonder what happened?
Please give us the ids of the submit requests - and check yourself the status with: osc rq show $id
84789 - new name, new version, and a fix for package sim which is already in Factory. Once it is accepted package sim should be removed. 84815 85274 84723 83866 84709 84678 84523 84677 84522 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 September 2011 14:00:23 Ilya Chernykh wrote:
Some of my requests for Factory are waiting for a week now.
I wonder what happened? We're currently busy getting the beta done, thus we only review what's urgent. And it's hackweek time :-)
Furthermore, I sent you a mail with some remarks. You shouldn't just submit ages-old spec-files, but clean them up first. Don't expect review to be fast for new packages with spec files with >1500 lines... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Sascha Peilicke
Am Donnerstag, 29. September 2011 schrieb Sascha Peilicke:
On Thursday 29 September 2011 14:00:23 Ilya Chernykh wrote:
Some of my requests for Factory are waiting for a week now.
I wonder what happened?
We're currently busy getting the beta done, thus we only review what's urgent. And it's hackweek time :-)
Furthermore, I sent you a mail with some remarks. You shouldn't just submit ages-old spec-files, but clean them up first. Don't expect review to be fast for new packages with spec files with >1500 lines...
I wonder anyway - you wanted to submit KDE3 back because it found a new upstream. and then you submit sources of 2008 Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 September 2011 14:52:49 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Some of my requests for Factory are waiting for a week now.
I wonder what happened?
We're currently busy getting the beta done, thus we only review what's urgent. And it's hackweek time :-)
Furthermore, I sent you a mail with some remarks. You shouldn't just submit ages-old spec-files, but clean them up first. Don't expect review to be fast for new packages with spec files with >1500 lines...
I wonder anyway - you wanted to submit KDE3 back because it found a new upstream. and then you submit sources of 2008
Stephan, I am sure Trinity lacks behind of us in some respects. For example, they still need hal. Most patchs are ported from us to Trinity than other way around. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. September 2011 schrieb Ilya Chernykh:
On Thursday 29 September 2011 14:52:49 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Some of my requests for Factory are waiting for a week now.
I wonder what happened?
We're currently busy getting the beta done, thus we only review what's urgent. And it's hackweek time :-)
Furthermore, I sent you a mail with some remarks. You shouldn't just submit ages-old spec-files, but clean them up first. Don't expect review to be fast for new packages with spec files with >1500 lines...
I wonder anyway - you wanted to submit KDE3 back because it found a new upstream. and then you submit sources of 2008
Stephan, I am sure Trinity lacks behind of us in some respects. For example, they still need hal. Most patchs are ported from us to Trinity than other way around. Then I would say your promise to have an active upstream are faulty.
Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 September 2011 16:01:36 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Stephan, I am sure Trinity lacks behind of us in some respects. For example, they still need hal. Most patchs are ported from us to Trinity than other way around. Then I would say your promise to have an active upstream are faulty.
They are active and we watch all their patches. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 September 2011 16:09:38 Ilya Chernykh wrote:
Stephan, I am sure Trinity lacks behind of us in some respects. For example, they still need hal. Most patchs are ported from us to Trinity than other way around. Then I would say your promise to have an active upstream are faulty.
They are active and we watch all their patches.
And also note that they are Ubuntu-specific, and Ubuntu sometimes have updates of base libs and GCC after openSUSE:Factory. That's why we moved to GCC 4.6 before Trinity did, the same is with other dependencies. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. September 2011 schrieb Ilya Chernykh:
On Thursday 29 September 2011 16:01:36 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Stephan, I am sure Trinity lacks behind of us in some respects. For example, they still need hal. Most patchs are ported from us to Trinity than other way around.
Then I would say your promise to have an active upstream are faulty.
They are active and we watch all their patches.
But I still don't get why they would maintain kmess and kbear if they are already not getting over hal. When you talked initially about KDE3, I thought you're talking about the desktop. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 September 2011 16:14:12 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Stephan, I am sure Trinity lacks behind of us in some respects. For example, they still need hal. Most patchs are ported from us to Trinity than other way around.
Then I would say your promise to have an active upstream are faulty.
They are active and we watch all their patches.
But I still don't get why they would maintain kmess and kbear if they are already not getting over hal. When you talked initially about KDE3, I thought you're talking about the desktop.
They have more applications than KDE 3.5.10 had but less than we in KDE:KDE3. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 September 2011 16:14:12 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Stephan, I am sure Trinity lacks behind of us in some respects. For example, they still need hal. Most patchs are ported from us to Trinity than other way around.
Then I would say your promise to have an active upstream are faulty.
They are active and we watch all their patches.
But I still don't get why they would maintain kmess and kbear if they are already not getting over hal. When you talked initially about KDE3, I thought you're talking about the desktop.
They have more applications than KDE 3.5.10 had but less than we in KDE:KDE3. What they "have" I don't care about, I care what they maintain. You know, I'm
Am Donnerstag, 29. September 2011 schrieb Ilya Chernykh: the guy who WONTFIXed a guessed value of quatro trillion thousand KDE bugs because they don't apply to KDE4. So I don't want KDE:KDE3 in factory, I agreed to have a KDE3 desktop. I don't see why we need to have all the koffice1 bugs back. On top of that, you say you're not using factory - so you're doing a complete wild shot in submitting all these 2008 spec files. To summarize: limit yourself to a basic desktop you can **maintain** together with the Trinity guy. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 September 2011 16:29:44 Stephan Kulow wrote:
What they "have" I don't care about, I care what they maintain. You know, I'm the guy who WONTFIXed a guessed value of quatro trillion thousand KDE bugs because they don't apply to KDE4. So I don't want KDE:KDE3 in factory, I agreed to have a KDE3 desktop. I don't see why we need to have all the koffice1 bugs back.
Looking at the Trinity patch list http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/ there is a quite large part of the patches regarding koffice. Whether they are applicable or needed for us is another question. Any bugs can be reported of course. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. September 2011 schrieb Ilya Chernykh:
On Thursday 29 September 2011 16:29:44 Stephan Kulow wrote:
What they "have" I don't care about, I care what they maintain. You know, I'm the guy who WONTFIXed a guessed value of quatro trillion thousand KDE bugs because they don't apply to KDE4. So I don't want KDE:KDE3 in factory, I agreed to have a KDE3 desktop. I don't see why we need to have all the koffice1 bugs back.
Looking at the Trinity patch list http://www.trinitydesktop.org/patches/ there is a quite large part of the patches regarding koffice. Whether they are applicable or needed for us is another question. Any bugs can be reported of course.
I see not a single bug fixed, there are plenty of build fixes, but that's normal with 2008 software. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 September 2011 14:29:44 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 29. September 2011 schrieb Ilya Chernykh:
On Thursday 29 September 2011 16:14:12 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Stephan, I am sure Trinity lacks behind of us in some respects. For example, they still need hal. Most patchs are ported from us to Trinity than other way around.
Then I would say your promise to have an active upstream are faulty.> > > They are active and we watch all their patches.
But I still don't get why they would maintain kmess and kbear if they are already not getting over hal. When you talked initially about KDE3, I thought you're talking about the desktop.
They have more applications than KDE 3.5.10 had but less than we in KDE:KDE3.
What they "have" I don't care about, I care what they maintain. You know, I'm the guy who WONTFIXed a guessed value of quatro trillion thousand KDE bugs because they don't apply to KDE4. So I don't want KDE:KDE3 in factory, I agreed to have a KDE3 desktop. I don't see why we need to have all the koffice1 bugs back.
On top of that, you say you're not using factory - so you're doing a complete wild shot in submitting all these 2008 spec files. To summarize: limit yourself to a basic desktop you can **maintain** together with the Trinity guy. Until these and the issues I mentioned are sorted out, I'm against submitting any further KDE3 packages. Therefore, I declined those that are currently open (for the reasons mentioned).
However, I am unsure on how to threat those packages that already moved into Factory. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Sascha Peilicke
On Friday 30 September 2011 02:53:06 Sascha Peilicke wrote:
What they "have" I don't care about, I care what they maintain. You know, I'm the guy who WONTFIXed a guessed value of quatro trillion thousand KDE bugs because they don't apply to KDE4. So I don't want KDE:KDE3 in factory, I agreed to have a KDE3 desktop. I don't see why we need to have all the koffice1 bugs back.
On top of that, you say you're not using factory - so you're doing a complete wild shot in submitting all these 2008 spec files. To summarize: limit yourself to a basic desktop you can **maintain** together with the Trinity guy. Until these and the issues I mentioned are sorted out, I'm against submitting any further KDE3 packages. Therefore, I declined those that are currently open (for the reasons mentioned).
However, I am unsure on how to threat those packages that already moved into Factory.
84789 State:declined By:saschpe When:2011-09-29T14:47:09 submit: KDE:KDE3/kde3-sim -> openSUSE:Factory Review by Group is accepted: legal-auto(licensedigger) Review by Group is accepted: factory-auto(coolo) Review by Group is accepted: legal-team(babelworx) Review by Group is declined: autobuild-team(saschpe) From: review(Ansus) -> review(licensedigger) -> review(coolo) Descr: new name (kde3-), new version (0.9.5), function call fix patch Comment: Declined until maintainership is sorted out and spec files where cleaned up. Please also check Trinity project patches for inclusion. What's the purpose of rejecting a newer version of a package that is already in Factory? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 30 September 2011 02:53:06 Sascha Peilicke wrote:
What they "have" I don't care about, I care what they maintain. You know, I'm the guy who WONTFIXed a guessed value of quatro trillion thousand KDE bugs because they don't apply to KDE4. So I don't want KDE:KDE3 in factory, I agreed to have a KDE3 desktop. I don't see why we need to have all the koffice1 bugs back.
On top of that, you say you're not using factory - so you're doing a complete wild shot in submitting all these 2008 spec files. To summarize: limit yourself to a basic desktop you can **maintain** together with the Trinity guy. Until these and the issues I mentioned are sorted out, I'm against submitting any further KDE3 packages. Therefore, I declined those that are currently open (for the reasons mentioned).
How would you like this sorted out? For example, sim-im is mainatained here: http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/sim-im And not in Trinity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Friday 30 September 2011 02:53:06 Sascha Peilicke wrote:
What they "have" I don't care about, I care what they maintain. You know, I'm the guy who WONTFIXed a guessed value of quatro trillion thousand KDE bugs because they don't apply to KDE4. So I don't want KDE:KDE3 in factory, I agreed to have a KDE3 desktop. I don't see why we need to have all the koffice1 bugs back.
On top of that, you say you're not using factory - so you're doing a complete wild shot in submitting all these 2008 spec files. To summarize: limit yourself to a basic desktop you can **maintain** together with the Trinity guy.
Until these and the issues I mentioned are sorted out, I'm against submitting any further KDE3 packages. Therefore, I declined those that are currently open (for the reasons mentioned).
How would you like this sorted out? For example, sim-im is mainatained here: http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/sim-im
And not in Trinity. I want you to send a mail to this very list evaluating the value of the
Am Donnerstag, 29. September 2011 schrieb Ilya Chernykh: package in distribution and what are the advantages of having kde3-koffice vs. using koffice2 in kde3. Because the downsides are obvious: for example there is no upstream community that won't give a shrug if a user used koffice1. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 September 2011 17:23:44 Stephan Kulow wrote:
Until these and the issues I mentioned are sorted out, I'm against submitting any further KDE3 packages. Therefore, I declined those that are currently open (for the reasons mentioned).
How would you like this sorted out? For example, sim-im is mainatained here: http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/sim-im
And not in Trinity. I want you to send a mail to this very list evaluating the value of the package in distribution
Regarding sim-im or koffice? Sim-im has quite large community and a Wikipedia page in six or seven languages. Anyway I was just renaming and updating the existing package sim. I could submit to it but I followed our new convention to use kde3- prefix.
and what are the advantages of having kde3-koffice vs. using koffice2 in kde3. Because the downsides are obvious: for example there is no upstream community that won't give a shrug if a user used koffice1.
For those who use kde3 the advantage is the best integration with the desktop. No other office suite is as closely integrated with kde3 as kde3-koffice, although libreoffice provides some basic integration. The integration manifests in similar styles, fonts, country and other settings, as the whole desktop uses, as well as provided kparts modules which allow integration with browser and embeeding. The overall inteface style and controls layout is also common. Also note that for some tasks libreoffice is exceptionally slow. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 29. September 2011 schrieb Ilya Chernykh:
How would you like this sorted out? For example, sim-im is mainatained here: http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/sim-im
For such apps we left kdelibs3 in factory. And you can easily package such an app without using unsermake and without using 2008 spec files. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 September 2011 17:24:53 Stephan Kulow wrote:
How would you like this sorted out? For example, sim-im is mainatained here: http://svn.berlios.de/wsvn/sim-im
For such apps we left kdelibs3 in factory. And you can easily package such an app without using unsermake and without using 2008 spec files.
It does not use unsermake at all. The version in Factory uses autotools, but the new version uses cmake. I updated the spec file to use cmake. Neither of the versions use unsermake. But the version in Factory currently fails to build. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
I feel like I need to step in regarding something important so this doesn't go to pieces. I am the packager that's supposed to port Trinity to openSUSE. I have merely been taking the current spec files, cleaning them up, and porting them to Trinity. That includes using macros instead of that horrid commonoptions file (or whatever it's called; eeek.) However, real life has been getting the very best of me (oh, thank you, physics and AB Cal), and i haven't had much time to work on them this whole September. You can see what I've done so far at git.trinitydesktop.org (they are *always* locally tested) and when I at least have enough time to get the base stuff cleaned up I will throw them up on the OBS. (ps 3.5.13 is now holding on a few bugs and me, so any help is appreciated) (resent because I used the wrong email that I use with factory >_>) -- later daze. :: Robert Xu :: rxu.lincomlinux.org :: protocol.by/rxu -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 29 September 2011 16:14:12 Stephan Kulow wrote:
if they are already not getting over hal.
I am not sure but seems this is not a priority. They do no aim to be included in official Ubuntu repos and with hal it works well. Furthermore, while KDE 3.5.10 could be optionally built without hal, it was conceded in the Trinity mailing list that Trinity fails. Thus hal is mandatory for Trinity. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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