[opensuse-factory] Plymouth, can somebody please tell me where it stores the images used?
Hi, It is really not nice, if a manual just gives useless directions. I want to change the background image that is used by Plymouth to a black background, showing the moving lights, to get rid of the awful over-sized chameleon icon, and the ugly green color. Is it possible somebody tells me the path to the image store directory? Kind regards. -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 28 October 2012 12:07:42 Oddball wrote:
It is really not nice, if a manual just gives useless directions. I want to change the background image that is used by Plymouth to a black background, showing the moving lights, to get rid of the awful over-sized chameleon icon, and the ugly green color.
I am really wondering which manual you are reading then as that I have stored the theme nicely in the standard theme directory of Plymouth. The openSUSE theme is of course utilizing the standard openSUSE background and colors. And this is something that you either like or not. It is not a must to install the openSUSE branding for plymouth. There are quite a number of plymouth themes available on divers websites.
Is it possible somebody tells me the path to the image store directory?
The theme itself is stored in the standard directory /usr/share/plymouth/themes In this directory you will find three sub directories (details, openSUSE and text). And yes, you guessed right, the plymouth openSUSE theme is located in the openSUSE directory. Of course just changing the stuff in this directory will not change anything with regards to the boot of the system. For this it would be required to regenerate the initrd. Groeten, Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 28-10-12 13:15, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
It is really not nice, if a manual just gives useless directions. I want to change the background image that is used by Plymouth to a black background, showing the moving lights, to get rid of the awful over-sized chameleon icon, and the ugly green color. I am really wondering which manual you are reading then as that I have stored
On Sunday 28 October 2012 12:07:42 Oddball wrote: the theme nicely in the standard theme directory of Plymouth. The openSUSE theme is of course utilizing the standard openSUSE background and colors. And this is something that you either like or not. It is not a must to install the openSUSE branding for plymouth. There are quite a number of plymouth themes available on divers websites.
Is it possible somebody tells me the path to the image store directory? The theme itself is stored in the standard directory /usr/share/plymouth/themes
In this directory you will find three sub directories (details, openSUSE and text). And yes, you guessed right, the plymouth openSUSE theme is located in the openSUSE directory.
Of course just changing the stuff in this directory will not change anything with regards to the boot of the system. For this it would be required to regenerate the initrd.
Groeten,
Raymond
plymouth --help I thank you for this info. -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 28-10-12 12:36, Oddball schreef:
Op 28-10-12 13:15, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
It is really not nice, if a manual just gives useless directions. I want to change the background image that is used by Plymouth to a black background, showing the moving lights, to get rid of the awful over-sized chameleon icon, and the ugly green color. I am really wondering which manual you are reading then as that I have stored
On Sunday 28 October 2012 12:07:42 Oddball wrote: the theme nicely in the standard theme directory of Plymouth. The openSUSE theme is of course utilizing the standard openSUSE background and colors. And this is something that you either like or not. It is not a must to install the openSUSE branding for plymouth. There are quite a number of plymouth themes available on divers websites.
Is it possible somebody tells me the path to the image store directory? The theme itself is stored in the standard directory /usr/share/plymouth/themes
In this directory you will find three sub directories (details, openSUSE and text). And yes, you guessed right, the plymouth openSUSE theme is located in the openSUSE directory.
Of course just changing the stuff in this directory will not change anything with regards to the boot of the system. For this it would be required to regenerate the initrd.
Groeten,
Raymond
plymouth --help
I thank you for this info.
I saw you wrote the script there. Permit me a few questions? (if i am able to figure out (with your help) how it is easily done, i will write a wiki page on it.) Is plymouth used as login-manager screen also? (and if so, what do i have to do to make the login dialog box smaller, and the too big pw dots smaller, to a distinguished small sized textbox, with small fonts?) How exactly do i make another theme active? (i did not find the 'theme_name' or whatever it is called that has to be changed. '# mk initrd' is the command to save the changes? My thanks for your input ;-) -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 28-10-12 13:17, Oddball schreef:
Op 28-10-12 12:36, Oddball schreef:
Op 28-10-12 13:15, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
It is really not nice, if a manual just gives useless directions. I want to change the background image that is used by Plymouth to a black background, showing the moving lights, to get rid of the awful over-sized chameleon icon, and the ugly green color. I am really wondering which manual you are reading then as that I have stored
On Sunday 28 October 2012 12:07:42 Oddball wrote: the theme nicely in the standard theme directory of Plymouth. The openSUSE theme is of course utilizing the standard openSUSE background and colors. And this is something that you either like or not. It is not a must to install the openSUSE branding for plymouth. There are quite a number of plymouth themes available on divers websites.
Is it possible somebody tells me the path to the image store directory? The theme itself is stored in the standard directory /usr/share/plymouth/themes
In this directory you will find three sub directories (details, openSUSE and text). And yes, you guessed right, the plymouth openSUSE theme is located in the openSUSE directory.
Of course just changing the stuff in this directory will not change anything with regards to the boot of the system. For this it would be required to regenerate the initrd.
Groeten,
Raymond
plymouth --help
I thank you for this info.
I saw you wrote the script there. Permit me a few questions? (if i am able to figure out (with your help) how it is easily done, i will write a wiki page on it.)
Is plymouth used as login-manager screen also? (and if so, what do i have to do to make the login dialog box smaller, and the too big pw dots smaller, to a distinguished small sized textbox, with small fonts?)
No it is really KDM3, saw : # are we currently prompting for a password? prompt_active = 0;
How exactly do i make another theme active? (i did not find the 'theme_name' or whatever it is called that has to be changed.
'# mk initrd' is the command to save the changes?
My thanks for your input ;-)
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Op 28-10-12 14:05, Oddball schreef:
Is plymouth used as login-manager screen also? (and if so, what do i have to do to make the login dialog box smaller, and the too big pw dots smaller, to a distinguished small sized textbox, with small fonts?)
No it is really KDM3, saw : # are we currently prompting for a password? prompt_active = 0;
Further on in the script i read: fun display_password_callback (prompt, bullets) { global.status = "password"; if (!global.password_dialogue) password_dialogue_setup(prompt); password_dialogue_opacity (1); bullet_width = password_dialogue.bullet_image.GetWidth(); bullet_y = password_dialogue.entry.y + password_dialogue.entry.image.GetHeight () / 2 - password_dialogue.bullet_image.GetHeight () / 2; margin = bullet_width; spaces = Math.Int( (password_dialogue.entry.image.GetWidth () - (margin * 2)) / (bullet_width / 2 ) ); bullets_area.width = margin + spaces * (bullet_width / 2); bullets_area.x = Window.GetX () + Window.GetWidth () / 2 - bullets_area.width / 2; if (bullets > spaces) bullets = spaces; for (index = 0; password_dialogue.bullets[index] || index < bullets; index++){ if (!password_dialogue.bullets[index]) { password_dialogue.bullets[index].sprite = Sprite (); password_dialogue.bullets[index].sprite.SetImage (password_dialogue.bullet_image); password_dialogue.bullets[index].x = bullets_area.x + index * bullet_width / 2; password_dialogue.bullets[index].sprite.SetX (password_dialogue.bullets[index].x); password_dialogue.bullets[index].y = bullet_y; password_dialogue.bullets[index].sprite.SetY (password_dialogue.bullets[index].y); password_dialogue.bullets[index].z = password_dialogue.entry.z + 1; password_dialogue.bullets[index].sprite.SetZ (password_dialogue.bullets[index].z); } Do i conclude here is the place to change the size of the bullets? Is there a way to get you (or anyone you know) to create an interface to change these settings? You can not expect users to mess with these scripts, they'll ruin them... http://www.ubuntugeek.com/plymouth-manager-gui-tool-to-change-boot-theme-and... http://kde-apps.org/content/show.php/?content=142592 These are for inspiration...
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On Sunday 28 October 2012 14:19:49 Oddball wrote:
Op 28-10-12 14:05, Oddball schreef:
Is plymouth used as login-manager screen also?
Plymouth is not used for the login-manager. The login stuff that you see is used to present the user with a dialog box in case the user needs to enter a password (e.g. to unlock encrypted partitions, etc).
(and if so, what do i have to do to make the login dialog box smaller, and the too big pw dots smaller, to a distinguished small sized textbox, with small fonts?)
Which dots are we talking about here ? Are we talking here about the login screen for either GDM, KDM or lightdm ? If so, then plymouth has nothing to do with this.
Do i conclude here is the place to change the size of the bullets?
Again the question, which bullets are we talking about ? The white bullets moving over the screen during the boot process, the bullets shown when you have to enter a password to unlock an encrypted drive or the bullets shown when you enter your password and user for the desktop ?
Is there a way to get you (or anyone you know) to create an interface to change these settings?
You can not expect users to mess with these scripts, they'll ruin them... Why would an user mess with those scripts in the first place ? The user is free to choose another theme if he doesn't like the default one. There are
The script you see there is part of a Plymouth theme. If a person doesn't like the theme, then he is free to select/install another theme. Plymouth itself does not offer any interfaces to change settings as that it is just a bootsplash and nothing more. plenty around on the internet. The user installs the theme and then as root executes the command `plymouth-set-default-theme -R <theme-name>`. With the next reboot the user will have the new theme active.
'# mk initrd' is the command to save the changes?
Euh, mkinitrd is not the command to save changes, but is the command to generate a new initrd file that is required for the boot process. If this mkinitrd goes wrong, this could lead to a non-bootable system !!! Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 28-10-12 14:31, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
On Sunday 28 October 2012 14:19:49 Oddball wrote:
Plymouth is not used for the login-manager. The login stuff that you see is used to present the user with a dialog box in case the user needs to enter a password (e.g. to unlock encrypted partitions, etc).
Ah, ok.
(and if so, what do i have to do to make the login dialog box smaller, and the too big pw dots smaller, to a distinguished small sized textbox, with small fonts?) Which dots are we talking about here ? Are we talking here about the login screen for either GDM, KDM or lightdm ? If so, then plymouth has nothing to do with this.
I still use the standard login manager used with 122. In 121 it was KDM3, same as now.
Do i conclude here is the place to change the size of the bullets? Again the question, which bullets are we talking about ? The white bullets moving over the screen during the boot process, the bullets shown when you have to enter a password to unlock an encrypted drive or the bullets shown when you enter your password and user for the desktop ?
Well, the bullets that show instead of the fonts inside the pw dialog box. The whole system uses these 'too big' dots everywhere. Me personally, I like little stars. Not dots, no matter how small they are. But smaller dots i like more than 'too big' dots.
Is there a way to get you (or anyone you know) to create an interface to change these settings? The script you see there is part of a Plymouth theme. If a person doesn't like the theme, then he is free to select/install another theme. Plymouth itself does not offer any interfaces to change settings as that it is just a bootsplash and nothing more.
Why than, tell me, is it impossible to find out how and where to do that? I am not the only one that thinks differently about this. 'just a bootsplash' is what is shown on 'my' screen when i boot up my pc/laptop/pad/whatever. This goes for every user that wants to boot his/her whatever up, with opensuse. Since it is my screen, as it is my device, i want to be able to simply choose another picture, moving or not, so do many other people, most of th people i know, want to be able to change that/those images, to images they like, whenever they like, without fuss. Ubuntu has 2(!) managers created for doing that. You think that is done because everybody wants, or likes the pre-installed standard? No it is done, because they want to be able, to simply, change their backgrounds when the system boots... that is all. But probably opensuse lacks the skills to create, or simpler, makes the KDE one work with openSUSE122, or below. Or there is no time, because it is not on the priority list.
You can not expect users to mess with these scripts, they'll ruin them... Why would an user mess with those scripts in the first place ?
Right, he/she should not. That is why it has to be easy to find the right way to change these settings, so nobody ever has to find, or even know of the existence of it. (except someone like yourself, creating or maintaining it.)
The user is free to choose another theme if he doesn't like the default one. There are plenty around on the internet. The user installs the theme and then as root executes the command `plymouth-set-default-theme -R <theme-name>`. With the next reboot the user will have the new theme active.
The user installs the theme and then as root executes the command `plymouth-set-default-theme -R <theme-name>`
Now we are getting somewhere... ;-)
With the next reboot the user will have the new theme active.
only if the user runs #mkinitrd, to generate a new 'initrd' used to boot the system. Indeed. Thanks Raymond. I really appreciate your input. I will try this 'manual', and when/if it works with no extra hassle, i will create/update a/the wiki-entry for it, for oS122.
Regards Raymond
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On Sunday 28 October 2012 15:33:17 Oddball wrote:
Well, the bullets that show instead of the fonts inside the pw dialog box. The whole system uses these 'too big' dots everywhere. Me personally, I like little stars. Not dots, no matter how small they are. But smaller dots i like more than 'too big' dots.
So it is the KDE Display Manager. That one has a separate logfile located in /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/kdmrc. I am not sure however if you can indicate what kind of bullets you can have.
Why than, tell me, is it impossible to find out how and where to do that?
When we started to implement plymouth on openSUSE, we created this page: http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Plymouth There we kept record of the things missing, etc. That page also links to a very good site where the theming of plymouth is explained (http://brej.org/blog/?p=238). There the steps with regards to plymouth-set- default-theme is indicated.
Ubuntu has 2(!) managers created for doing that. You think that is done because everybody wants, or likes the pre-installed standard? No it is done, because they want to be able, to simply, change their backgrounds when the system boots... that is all. But probably opensuse lacks the skills to create, or simpler, makes the KDE one work with openSUSE122, or below. Or there is no time, because it is not on the priority list.
I don't know why suddenly now (when Plymouth is active) you are coming up with these type of complains. openSUSE has been using bootsplash before and that wasn't easy changeable either. But as with every opensource, people are free to choice what they want including distribution. I am nothing more than just a simple Linux user, who happened to choose openSUSE as his distribution and decided to help out in his free time. openSUSE is a community distribution, so if people are willing to help out we could correct all these things.
The user installs the theme and then as root executes the command `plymouth-set-default-theme -R <theme-name>`
Now we are getting somewhere... ;-)
With the next reboot the user will have the new theme active.
only if the user runs #mkinitrd, to generate a new 'initrd' used to boot the system. Indeed.
No. the -R command runs the minitrd process for the user. You can check the parameters by running plymouth-set-default-theme --help Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 28-10-12 18:29, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
On Sunday 28 October 2012 15:33:17 Oddball wrote:
Well, the bullets that show instead of the fonts inside the pw dialog box. The whole system uses these 'too big' dots everywhere. Me personally, I like little stars. Not dots, no matter how small they are. But smaller dots i like more than 'too big' dots. So it is the KDE Display Manager. That one has a separate logfile located in /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/kdmrc. I am not sure however if you can indicate what kind of bullets you can have.
I have been looking into that, but changes made there had no effect... It is very possible i did something wrong...
Why than, tell me, is it impossible to find out how and where to do that? When we started to implement plymouth on openSUSE, we created this page:
http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Plymouth
There we kept record of the things missing, etc. That page also links to a very good site where the theming of plymouth is explained (http://brej.org/blog/?p=238). There the steps with regards to plymouth-set- default-theme is indicated.
Thanx 4 the tip, http://brej.org/blog/?p=238 i was at http://en.opensuse.org/openSUSE:Plymouth ,but the place is not up to date.
Ubuntu has 2(!) managers created for doing that. You think that is done because everybody wants, or likes the pre-installed standard? No it is done, because they want to be able, to simply, change their backgrounds when the system boots... that is all. But probably opensuse lacks the skills to create, or simpler, makes the KDE one work with openSUSE122, or below. Or there is no time, because it is not on the priority list. I don't know why suddenly now (when Plymouth is active) you are coming up with these type of complains. openSUSE has been using bootsplash before and that wasn't easy changeable either.
It was very long ago that is was changeable, that is correct.. But i am complaining because it has never been so ugly, so i want to get rid of it. That i am late, is because i temporary stopped testing, so i was not involved The feeling of being satisfied, is important, not only to me. Things that disturb me, and keep on doing that, i change. Sometimes it takes a long time before the goal is reached. The first screen, bootloader, i can live with for the moment, as i have changed that already. As the final splash-screen, after the loginmanager, is also made acceptable. Only the two in between: plymouth, and KDM3 are still very, very ugly. But plymouth is about to change. After that, rests only the loginmanager... Sincere thanks for your input here...
But as with every opensource, people are free to choice what they want including distribution. I am nothing more than just a simple Linux user, who happened to choose openSUSE as his distribution and decided to help out in his free time. openSUSE is a community distribution, so if people are willing to help out we could correct all these things.
How does ubunti arrange that than? Do they have so many volunteers? It can not be difficult to make the available 'managers' working for opensuse: They look in places to find their things to change, and a button triggers the command. So the only thing that has to be done is adapting the paths, i figure.
only if the user runs #mkinitrd, to generate a new 'initrd' used to boot the system. Indeed. No. the -R command runs the minitrd process for the user. You can check the parameters by running plymouth-set-default-theme --help
That is cool, and simple. 'plymouth-set-default-theme -R <theme-name>` and it can be done as a normal user?
Raymond
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On 2012-10-28 19:05 (GMT+0100) Oddball composed:
Op 28-10-12 18:29, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
So it is the KDE Display Manager. That one has a separate logfile located in /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/kdmrc. I am not sure however if you can indicate what kind of bullets you can have.
I have been looking into that, but changes made there had no effect... It is very possible i did something wrong...
Are both kdm and kdebase3-kdm installed? Maybe it's the other kdmrc you need to change? Global config files belong in /etc, not in /opt or /usr trees. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#ETCHOSTSPECIFICSYSTEMCONFIGURAT... -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 28-10-12 20:14, Felix Miata schreef:
On 2012-10-28 19:05 (GMT+0100) Oddball composed:
Op 28-10-12 18:29, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
So it is the KDE Display Manager. That one has a separate logfile located in /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/kdmrc. I am not sure however if you can indicate what kind of bullets you can have.
I have been looking into that, but changes made there had no effect... It is very possible i did something wrong...
Are both kdm and kdebase3-kdm installed? Maybe it's the other kdmrc you need to change?
Global config files belong in /etc, not in /opt or /usr trees. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#ETCHOSTSPECIFICSYSTEMCONFIGURAT...
I will look into that. Usefull tip, that secondone, i will check this. Thnx. -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 28 October 2012 00:54:42 Oddball wrote:
Are both kdm and kdebase3-kdm installed? Maybe it's the other kdmrc you need to change?
Global config files belong in /etc, not in /opt or /usr trees. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#ETCHOSTSPECIFICSYSTEMCONFIGUR ATION I will look into that. Usefull tip, that secondone, i will check this. Thnx.
You are running openSUSE 12.2 with which KDE version ? KDE3 or KDE4 ? If it is KDE4, why are you then running KDM3 ? Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 29-10-12 19:57, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
On Sunday 28 October 2012 00:54:42 Oddball wrote:
Are both kdm and kdebase3-kdm installed? Maybe it's the other kdmrc you need to change?
Global config files belong in /etc, not in /opt or /usr trees. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#ETCHOSTSPECIFICSYSTEMCONFIGUR ATION I will look into that. Usefull tip, that secondone, i will check this. Thnx. You are running openSUSE 12.2 with which KDE version ? KDE3 or KDE4 ? If it is KDE4, why are you then running KDM3 ?
Regards
Raymond Because it is default in 122, with KDE4, according to yast.
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On Monday 29 October 2012 20:04:53 Oddball wrote: x.
You are running openSUSE 12.2 with which KDE version ? KDE3 or KDE4 ? If it is KDE4, why are you then running KDM3 ?
Regards
Raymond
Because it is default in 122, with KDE4, according to yast.
I am very sorry, but I find it very hard to believe that 12.2 will come with KDM3 as the default desktop manager. Are you sure about this ? I guess that the default is KDM and only KDM4 would be installed by default. Is this a new installation or an upgrade from an older system that used to run KDE3 ? Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 29-10-12 20:20, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
You are running openSUSE 12.2 with which KDE version ? KDE3 or KDE4 ? If it is KDE4, why are you then running KDM3 ?
Regards
Raymond Because it is default in 122, with KDE4, according to yast. I am very sorry, but I find it very hard to believe that 12.2 will come with KDM3 as the default desktop manager. Are you sure about this ? I guess that
On Monday 29 October 2012 20:04:53 Oddball wrote: x. the default is KDM and only KDM4 would be installed by default.
Is this a new installation or an upgrade from an older system that used to run KDE3 ?
Regards
Raymond
To be honest, i found it hard to believe to, as in 121 KDM3 was already obsolete. 121 and 122 are not compatible, so no, it is not an upgrade. I used KDE4 from the start in 11? Install 122 yourself, and you'll see.. To change the login manager was also in 121 not possible, only to a worse state than the standard theme. That is commonly known. The themes that should be able to use, were never able to be installed. Something between KDE systemsettings, and yast, if i recall correct. -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
In data lunedì 29 ottobre 2012 20:48:15, Oddball ha scritto:
Install 122 yourself, and you'll see.. I see kdm4. Two installation from kde live cd. Bye. -- *** Linux user # 198661 ---_ ICQ 33500725 *** *** Home http://www.kailed.net *** *** Powered by openSUSE ***
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Op 29-10-12 21:15, Daniele schreef:
In data lunedì 29 ottobre 2012 20:48:15, Oddball ha scritto:
Install 122 yourself, and you'll see.. I see kdm4. Two installation from kde live cd. Bye. It might differ from the install version. Here is really KDM3.
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Op 29-10-12 21:15, Daniele schreef:
In data lunedì 29 ottobre 2012 20:48:15, Oddball ha scritto:
Install 122 yourself, and you'll see.. I see kdm4. Two installation from kde live cd. Bye. It might differ from the install version. Here is really KDM3.
KDM3 is not the default since long time ago. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlCPN7YACgkQja8UbcUWM1wWigEAndSiDwKcez4LB+J2Cx14Ynkx /NUQXGxNjmcjHsdv1U4A/R0htIDCd+lUbkBjE7MJwquOsD/N/1fg6CiVMwqIE3g+ =ysp0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 30-10-12 03:13, Carlos E. R. schreef:
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On 2012-10-29 23:05, Oddball wrote:
Op 29-10-12 21:15, Daniele schreef:
In data lunedì 29 ottobre 2012 20:48:15, Oddball ha scritto:
Install 122 yourself, and you'll see.. I see kdm4. Two installation from kde live cd. Bye. It might differ from the install version. Here is really KDM3. KDM3 is not the default since long time ago.
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According to Yast, it is. -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-10-29 08:43, Oddball wrote:
Op 30-10-12 03:13, Carlos E. R. schreef:
According to Yast, it is.
Nope. - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlCPug0ACgkQja8UbcUWM1zFuQD+NtDDn3QPk6Q+RaZ7w5MGDni4 +exjuRIcOfbnyMi4eJIBAIvGC7byjsmYhqHPCeGVgoETRwqdBmi3q78l/ztEPp3U =S17f -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 30-10-12 12:29, Carlos E. R. schreef:
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On 2012-10-29 08:43, Oddball wrote:
Op 30-10-12 03:13, Carlos E. R. schreef: According to Yast, it is. Nope.
As you seem to base that statement upon something i can not see, you kan tell me probably why KDM4 runs with kdm3 script? But better, how do i get the themes working, as in changeable, that are present in: /usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm ? -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.9.2 "release 511" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA256 On 2012-10-30 13:00, Oddball wrote: Found this, in the forums, that might interest you: View this thread: http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=480592 - -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 11.4 x86_64 "Celadon" (Minas Tirith)) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.16 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://www.enigmail.net/ iF4EAREIAAYFAlCngBwACgkQja8UbcUWM1x8ggD/WDgxKgyJl7VviktFAD9V8vcu qAlpyb83exfGdNFy7eAA/0dLH45qWKg5LxGKIv1uKBc+dPLBr5cmOb77uu9AIwJ1 =e/r5 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 17-11-12 13:16, Carlos E. R. schreef:
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On 2012-10-30 13:00, Oddball wrote:
Found this, in the forums, that might interest you:
View this thread: http://forums.opensuse.org/showthread.php?t=480592
- -- Cheers / Saludos,
Carlos E. R.
Thanks, that saves me to write one myself. :-D (i bookmarked that page for later reference..) I am already comfortable with openSuSE-Elegant, which i have running since a day after the new install. My suspicion about all these unexplainable 'bugs', seem to be pinned doen to an unsupported version of lvm, which is shipped with 122. -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc5-2-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.9.3 "release 520" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 2012-10-29 20:04 (GMT+0100) Oddball composed:
Raymond Wooninck composed:
You are running openSUSE 12.2 with which KDE version ? KDE3 or KDE4 ? If it is KDE4, why are you then running KDM3 ?
Because it is default in 122, with KDE4, according to yast.
If indeed it is KDM3 that is running, then the kdmrc to change is /opt/kde3/share/config/kdm/kdmrc -- "The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive." Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 28-10-12 20:14, Felix Miata schreef:
On 2012-10-28 19:05 (GMT+0100) Oddball composed:
Op 28-10-12 18:29, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
Are both kdm and kdebase3-kdm installed? Maybe it's the other kdmrc you need to change?
KDM, and KDM-branding-openSUSE were installed, kdebase3-kdm was not.
Global config files belong in /etc, not in /opt or /usr trees. http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#ETCHOSTSPECIFICSYSTEMCONFIGURAT...
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Op 28-10-12 18:29, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/kdmrc.
is not in the path in 122. There are 6 directories, and read_sysconfig.sh -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 28-10-12 19:12, Oddball schreef:
Op 28-10-12 18:29, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
/usr/share/kde4/apps/kdm/kdmrc.
is not in the path in 122. There are 6 directories, and read_sysconfig.sh
it is in /usr/share/kde4/config/kdm/kdmrc -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 28-10-12 18:29, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
On Sunday 28 October 2012 15:33:17 Oddball wrote:
I installed all the plymouth themes from the opensuse repo, no one works, only the default openSUSE. -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/28/2012 07:07 AM, Oddball wrote:
Hi,
It is really not nice, if a manual just gives useless directions. I want to change the background image that is used by Plymouth to a black background, showing the moving lights, to get rid of the awful over-sized chameleon icon, and the ugly green color.
Is it possible somebody tells me the path to the image store directory?
Kind regards.
I added a new_background_image.png to /usr/share/plymouth/themes/openSUSE then edited /usr/share/plymouth/themes/openSUSE/openSUSE.script line 140 to bg_image = Image("new_background_image.png"); Then I ran plymouth-set-default-theme openSUSE -R It worked on openSUSE 12.2 will try it on factory soon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 28-10-12 19:16, Dale Ritchey schreef:
On 10/28/2012 07:07 AM, Oddball wrote:
Hi,
It is really not nice, if a manual just gives useless directions. I want to change the background image that is used by Plymouth to a black background, showing the moving lights, to get rid of the awful over-sized chameleon icon, and the ugly green color.
Is it possible somebody tells me the path to the image store directory?
Kind regards.
I added a new_background_image.png to /usr/share/plymouth/themes/openSUSE then edited /usr/share/plymouth/themes/openSUSE/openSUSE.script line 140 to bg_image = Image("new_background_image.png"); Then I ran plymouth-set-default-theme openSUSE -R
It worked on openSUSE 12.2 will try it on factory soon
Nice! I will try this also... -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 10/28/2012 02:16 PM, Dale Ritchey wrote:
On 10/28/2012 07:07 AM, Oddball wrote:
Hi,
It is really not nice, if a manual just gives useless directions. I want to change the background image that is used by Plymouth to a black background, showing the moving lights, to get rid of the awful over-sized chameleon icon, and the ugly green color.
Is it possible somebody tells me the path to the image store directory?
Kind regards.
I added a new_background_image.png to /usr/share/plymouth/themes/openSUSE then edited /usr/share/plymouth/themes/openSUSE/openSUSE.script line 140 to bg_image = Image("new_background_image.png"); Then I ran plymouth-set-default-theme openSUSE -R
It worked on openSUSE 12.2 will try it on factory soon I edited factory's plymouth/themes/openSUSE.script with a new background and logo and got this on http://www.imagebam.com/image/9432cc217483482 but on boot I get regular openSUSE screen. but that happens with yast installed themes also -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 28-10-12 23:41, Dale Ritchey schreef:
On 10/28/2012 02:16 PM, Dale Ritchey wrote:
On 10/28/2012 07:07 AM, Oddball wrote:
Hi,
It is really not nice, if a manual just gives useless directions. I want to change the background image that is used by Plymouth to a black background, showing the moving lights, to get rid of the awful over-sized chameleon icon, and the ugly green color.
Is it possible somebody tells me the path to the image store directory?
Kind regards.
I added a new_background_image.png to /usr/share/plymouth/themes/openSUSE then edited /usr/share/plymouth/themes/openSUSE/openSUSE.script line 140 to bg_image = Image("new_background_image.png"); Then I ran plymouth-set-default-theme openSUSE -R
It worked on openSUSE 12.2 will try it on factory soon I edited factory's plymouth/themes/openSUSE.script with a new background and logo and got this on http://www.imagebam.com/image/9432cc217483482 but on boot I get regular openSUSE screen. but that happens with yast installed themes also
How should this be approched, open a bug report about it, to get all of these nasty things fixed, and a feature report, to get a decent manager, so 'normal' users will be able to change their boot screens also, or what do officials here say about it? -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Monday 29 October 2012 08:11:54 Oddball wrote:
How should this be approched, open a bug report about it, to get all of these nasty things fixed, and a feature report, to get a decent manager, so 'normal' users will be able to change their boot screens also, or what do officials here say about it?
You can open bug reports about this. However make sure that you describe exactly what the requirements are. What you are doing at the moment is changing an existing theme, which is not even supported by the management tools from Ubuntu. The plymouth-manager of Ubuntu allows you to change the complete theme, but not to change just some small parts of an existing theme. At this moment this is also possible from the command-line, by downloading a new theme, unpack it in the directory /usr/share/plymouth/themes and then to run plymouth-set-default-theme <Theme-name> -R Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op 29-10-12 20:03, Raymond Wooninck schreef:
You can open bug reports about this. However make sure that you describe exactly what the requirements are. What you are doing at the moment is changing an existing theme, which is not even supported by the management tools from Ubuntu. The plymouth-manager of Ubuntu allows you to change the complete theme, but not to change just some small parts of an existing theme.
At this moment this is also possible from the command-line, by downloading a new theme, unpack it in the directory /usr/share/plymouth/themes and then to run plymouth-set-default-theme <Theme-name> -R
Regards
Raymond
Thank you for your concern Raymond. What i want is to use the openSUSE Elegant theme, because i want to see that i use oS. But i want a nice looking picture, to look at on boot-time. If i can install that theme, i would not have to change one image. I did not have the time yet, but i am going to try this very soon. It would be nice to update the page about it when everything works ok. I still have a few days before i have to leave for Ghana again, and there it will be more difficult to find the time for it... -- Have a nice day, Oddball. OS: Linux 3.7.0-rc2-1-desktop i686 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@EeePc-Rob-SFN9 Systeem: openSUSE 12.2 (i586) KDE: 4.8.5 (4.8.5) "release 2" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Sunday 28 October 2012 18:41:42 Dale Ritchey wrote:
I edited factory's plymouth/themes/openSUSE.script with a new background and logo and got this on http://www.imagebam.com/image/9432cc217483482 but on boot I get regular openSUSE screen. but that happens with yast installed themes also
Hi Dale, Did you rebuild the initrd after your change ? If you didn't, then it is quite logical that on boot you will see the regular openSUSE screen. Please run plymouth-set-default-theme openSUSE -R to get your changes reflected in the initrd. Regards Raymond -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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