[opensuse-factory] YaST: highlights of development sprint 67
YaST development keeps rolling. Check the latest report at https://lizards.opensuse.org/2018/11/20/yast-sprint-67/ with a lot of information about new features in the installer, like: - More options to configure Kubic during installation. - Several improvements in the storage proposal. - Easing the network configuration and the usage of online repositories in openSUSE. - Improving installation in text mode for CJK and other languages. - Configuring SSH access during installation and in a running system. - And many other small fixes here and there! Cheers. -- Ancor González Sosa YaST Team at SUSE Linux GmbH -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Dienstag, 20. November 2018 17:36:10 CET Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
YaST development keeps rolling. Check the latest report at https://lizards.opensuse.org/2018/11/20/yast-sprint-67/ with a lot of information about new features in the installer, like:
[...]
- Easing the network configuration and the usage of online repositories in openSUSE.
-- Tumbleweed: Add Online Repositories during Installation -- Is it also possible to add community repos (e.g. packman) during the installation? This would avoid the repeated confirmation for repository changes for all the affected packages, which can be a lot. Thanks for the update and keeping us updated! Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
V Tue, 20 Nov 2018 17:04:24 +0000
"Brüns, Stefan"
On Dienstag, 20. November 2018 17:36:10 CET Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
YaST development keeps rolling. Check the latest report at https://lizards.opensuse.org/2018/11/20/yast-sprint-67/ with a lot of information about new features in the installer, like:
[...]
- Easing the network configuration and the usage of online repositories in openSUSE.
-- Tumbleweed: Add Online Repositories during Installation --
Is it also possible to add community repos (e.g. packman) during the installation? This would avoid the repeated confirmation for repository changes for all the affected packages, which can be a lot.
Thanks for the update and keeping us updated!
Stefan
This online repos is a list that is downloaded from leap page. So it is up to leap release managers what is there. E.g. for TW the location is at https://download.opensuse.org/YaST/Repos/openSUSE_Factory_Servers.xml but only list with installation repo flag is used. So currently no packman there. Josef -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 20.11.18 um 18:04 schrieb Brüns, Stefan:
On Dienstag, 20. November 2018 17:36:10 CET Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
YaST development keeps rolling. Check the latest report at https://lizards.opensuse.org/2018/11/20/yast-sprint-67/ with a lot of information about new features in the installer, like:
[...]
- Easing the network configuration and the usage of online repositories in openSUSE.
-- Tumbleweed: Add Online Repositories during Installation --
Is it also possible to add community repos (e.g. packman) during the installation? This would avoid the repeated confirmation for repository changes for all the affected packages, which can be a lot.
That is not the goal. The feature is more useful for Leap anyways where the update repo may be included during installation already to avoid having to download packages twice. Once the original from the release and then again an updated one. Anways, why does Packman replace lots of packages? I thought it mostly adds supplemental packages? cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.com/ SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Donnerstag, 22. November 2018 17:35:20 CET Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Am 20.11.18 um 18:04 schrieb Brüns, Stefan:
On Dienstag, 20. November 2018 17:36:10 CET Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
YaST development keeps rolling. Check the latest report at https://lizards.opensuse.org/2018/11/20/yast-sprint-67/
with a lot of information about new features in the installer, like: [...]
- Easing the network configuration and the usage of online
repositories in openSUSE.
-- Tumbleweed: Add Online Repositories during Installation --
Is it also possible to add community repos (e.g. packman) during the installation? This would avoid the repeated confirmation for repository changes for all the affected packages, which can be a lot.
That is not the goal. The feature is more useful for Leap anyways where the update repo may be included during installation already to avoid having to download packages twice. Once the original from the release and then again an updated one. Anways, why does Packman replace lots of packages? I thought it mostly adds supplemental packages?
This is not always possible. For gstreamer, addon packages are used, but e.g. the ffmpeg libraries (libavcoded, libavutil, libavdevice ...) are monolitic and have to be exchanged. E.g. the vlc-codecs package requires libavcodec<version>(unrestricted), which is only provided by the libavcodec package from packman. When the packman repo is added after some of the ffmpeg libraries have been installed, this leads to a vendor change. The current conflict resolution dialog is not very user friendly, but quite low level (and it even has an "Expert mode" button on top). One problem is the grouping of conflicts (in Yast), each conflict has to be solved indiviually, although the solution may be the same for all (in this case, a vendor change). One can avoid solving some of the conflicts by selecting a solution for one conflict and clicking "Ok - retry", but thats not very intuitive. If the dialog instead stated: --- Warning - for installing "vlc-codecs" from "packman", some of your currently installed packages have to be replaced with packages from the "packman" repository. Following packages needs to be replaced: - libavcodec57 - libavdevice57 ... [x] Show details [Allow replacement] [Expert mode] [Cancel] --- it would be much more comprehensible for beginners. Expert mode could show the current dialog. "Show details" would show e.g. versions, repository URLs. Allow replacement would rerun the solver with the accepted changes, and eventually show the next conflict. Prerequisite for using/showing the dialog would be existance of a common conflict resolution. But a required vendor change is the conflict resolution which I have seen most often, and which is typically the wanted one (On TW, there is the occasional package downgrade, or an incomplete package rename - missing provides/obsoletes - but these are very seldom). Kind regards, Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 22.11.18 um 18:51 schrieb Brüns, Stefan:
On Donnerstag, 22. November 2018 17:35:20 CET Ludwig Nussel wrote:
Am 20.11.18 um 18:04 schrieb Brüns, Stefan:
On Dienstag, 20. November 2018 17:36:10 CET Ancor Gonzalez Sosa wrote:
YaST development keeps rolling. Check the latest report at https://lizards.opensuse.org/2018/11/20/yast-sprint-67/
with a lot of information about new features in the installer, like: [...]
- Easing the network configuration and the usage of online
repositories in openSUSE.
-- Tumbleweed: Add Online Repositories during Installation --
Is it also possible to add community repos (e.g. packman) during the installation? This would avoid the repeated confirmation for repository changes for all the affected packages, which can be a lot.
That is not the goal. The feature is more useful for Leap anyways where the update repo may be included during installation already to avoid having to download packages twice. Once the original from the release and then again an updated one. Anways, why does Packman replace lots of packages? I thought it mostly adds supplemental packages?
This is not always possible. For gstreamer, addon packages are used, but e.g. the ffmpeg libraries (libavcoded, libavutil, libavdevice ...) are monolitic and have to be exchanged.
E.g. the vlc-codecs package requires libavcodec<version>(unrestricted), which is only provided by the libavcodec package from packman. When the packman repo is added after some of the ffmpeg libraries have been installed, this leads to a vendor change.
Maybe filter objects, update alternatives or special RPATHs could be used to allow parallel installation of both libs where the unrestricted ones are preferred?
The current conflict resolution dialog is not very user friendly, but quite low level (and it even has an "Expert mode" button on top).
I've filed a feature request for that. Nevertheless users really should never be exposed to those conflict resolutions when using repos that are kind of standard. cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.com/ SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Il 20/11/18 14:36, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa ha scritto:
YaST development keeps rolling. Check the latest report at https://lizards.opensuse.org/2018/11/20/yast-sprint-67/ with a lot of information about new features in the installer, like:
- More options to configure Kubic during installation. - Several improvements in the storage proposal. - Easing the network configuration and the usage of online repositories in openSUSE. - Improving installation in text mode for CJK and other languages. - Configuring SSH access during installation and in a running system. - And many other small fixes here and there!
Cheers. -- Ancor González Sosa YaST Team at SUSE Linux GmbH
Congrats! -- Marco Calistri Build: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20181116 Kernel: 4.19.1-1-default - Cinnamon 3.8.9 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Il 20/11/18 14:36, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa ha scritto:
YaST development keeps rolling. Check the latest report at https://lizards.opensuse.org/2018/11/20/yast-sprint-67/ with a lot of information about new features in the installer, like:
- More options to configure Kubic during installation. - Several improvements in the storage proposal. - Easing the network configuration and the usage of online repositories in openSUSE. - Improving installation in text mode for CJK and other languages. - Configuring SSH access during installation and in a running system. - And many other small fixes here and there!
Cheers. -- Ancor González Sosa YaST Team at SUSE Linux GmbH
Congrats! -- Marco Calistri Build: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20181116 Kernel: 4.19.1-1-default - Cinnamon 3.8.9 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Il 20/11/18 14:36, Ancor Gonzalez Sosa ha scritto:
YaST development keeps rolling. Check the latest report at https://lizards.opensuse.org/2018/11/20/yast-sprint-67/ with a lot of information about new features in the installer, like:
- More options to configure Kubic during installation. - Several improvements in the storage proposal. - Easing the network configuration and the usage of online repositories in openSUSE. - Improving installation in text mode for CJK and other languages. - Configuring SSH access during installation and in a running system. - And many other small fixes here and there!
Cheers. -- Ancor González Sosa YaST Team at SUSE Linux GmbH
Congrats! -- Marco Calistri Build: openSUSE Tumbleweed 20181116 Kernel: 4.19.1-1-default - Cinnamon 3.8.9 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Ancor Gonzalez Sosa -
Brüns, Stefan -
Josef Reidinger -
Ludwig Nussel -
Marco Calistri