2013/3/1 Yamaban :

On Fri, 1 Mar 2013 15:17, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Luis González [03-01-13 09:11]: [...]

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I'm installing the opensuse 12.3 RC and I noticed an issue before the installation finished, and after reviewed several times I realized the error (laptop freeze completely) occurred when starting LSB. /var/log/messages not shown relevant info boot.log said Failed to start Network Manager, and of course I do no have network devices. When a launch yast and go to Network Devices, the error occurred again detecting devices... systemctl status NetworkManager.service said Active: failed status = 1/FAILURE

aiui, NetworkManager wants to control your networking and visibly complains when it is not in control, but if not using NetworkManager the comalaint is not harmful and rather meaningless.

I have never been able to get NetworkManager to work on openSUSE on any device and have satisfied myself using ifup/ifdown/... Watching the boot messages, I always see notice that NetworkManager has failed but I have no networking problems even with wifi.

It looks like "NetworkManager" is more like "NetworkFail". Still, and AGAIN (see prior releases).

For Goldmaster: would it be possible to EXclude the "NetworkManager" from the 'Minimal' Pattern? (and from the fast-install-images?)

Anybody who realy WANTS to use NetworkManager, can select the package, but even in my wildest installation, I could get the network working without using "NetworkManager", both, reliable, and easy to use.

If I want to use NetworkManager, I use other distros, e.g. Ubuntu.

To those also using / testing Fedora, does NetworkManager work in F18?

- Yamaban, who re-reads the network-hassle from RC1 on this list, and sees no betterment. Now, I removed NetworkManager but I can't get gnome-shell work. At least, now I have network! I want gnome-shell working, what should you recommend? -- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 9:53 AM, Yamaban wrote:

It looks like "NetworkManager" is more like "NetworkFail". Still, and AGAIN (see prior releases).

With RC1 I had definite NetworkManager errors and I had to manually start it after boot (and I think login). With a recent zypper dup (RC2?) I no longer have that problem. I am having a problem that if my laptop suspends it drops the WLAN connection. After I wake up the laptop, I have go into NetworkManager and drop the connection, then re-establish. That's a pain, but I don't know if it is expected, or a bug. Let me know if it's a bug and I'll open a bugzilla. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 5:44 PM, Michael Catanzaro wrote:

On Fri, 2013-03-01 at 16:26 -0500, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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I am having a problem that if my laptop suspends it drops the WLAN connection. After I wake up the laptop, I have go into NetworkManager and drop the connection, then re-establish.

That's a pain, but I don't know if it is expected, or a bug. Let me know if it's a bug and I'll open a bugzilla.

Greg NetworkManager should reestablish the connection when it wakes up. Sounds like a bug to me.

entered: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=807111 Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org