Cristian, On Thursday 02 November 2006 12:27, Cristian Rodriguez R. wrote:

Randall R Schulz wrote:

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Is it normal for this process to run on and on like this?

Is expected but not normal...it is just another sign that zmd should be "bye,bye" very soon now :-P

Could you clarify a couple of points: 1) Is zmd slated for replacement before 10.2 final arrives? 2) What is the proper way to deal with this? This instance of zmd has now been running for 8 hours and has consumed over 120m of CPU time. Should I kill it? Is there an init task I should disable to make it go away permanently?

see bug https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=215649 where the discussion is.

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Gaël, On Friday 03 November 2006 00:22, Gaël Lams wrote:

"/etc/init.d/novell-zmd stop" should be enough to stop it (+ insserv -r novell-zmd)

% /etc/init.d/novell-zmd stop Shutting down ZENworks Management Daemon failed The process is still there, but it is no longer consuming CPU cycles or hitting the disk. What is this thing, anyway? Randall Schulz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Martin, On Friday 03 November 2006 08:04, Martin Schlander wrote:

Fredag 03 november 2006 16:15 skrev Randall R Schulz:

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What is this thing, anyway?

Where have you been for the last 7 months?

Avoiding and ignoring all the brouhaha about the SNAFUs in 10.1, what do you think?

Here you can see the different parts of the packagemanagement in default 10.1+10.2 http://en.opensuse.org/Image:Package-management-in-code10.png

Thanks. Does it really need to be that complicated? I've been doing software developement for a good long time, and redundant databases (RPM has its own package database, right?) and multiple fundamental ways to do one thing don't strike me as a good idea... YaST is all I need. Right? What does "rug" and all that ZENWorks stuff give me that I didn't have before? I've not felt there was anything lacking in SuSE Linux's software management capabilities for the past few years.

And here is how it looks if you replace the zenworks pattern with the lightweight packagemanagement pattern on 10.2b2 and onwards: http://suse.linuxin.dk/pm102.png

That looks better.

Martin

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Fredag 03 november 2006 15:16 skrev Andreas Jaeger:

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1) Is zmd slated for replacement before 10.2 final arrives?

No, it will be in 10.2.

But you can remove it manually. And you will not lose any functionality as zypper and opensuse-updater can replace rug and zen-updater respectively. It seems there will even be a pattern for performing this action. Martin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Andreas, On Friday 03 November 2006 07:07, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

Martin Schlander writes:

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Fredag 03 november 2006 15:16 skrev Andreas Jaeger:

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1) Is zmd slated for replacement before 10.2 final arrives?

No, it will be in 10.2.

But you can remove it manually. And you will not lose any functionality as zypper and opensuse-updater can replace rug and zen-updater respectively. It seems there will even be a pattern for performing this action.

There will be one starting with beta2 - so it should be easy to do,

Won't you fix this constant running? Surely that cannot be normal operation, can it? At this point, it has run up 340 minutes of CPU time. What's it doing with this interminable activity? And if one chooses to remove it, what takes its place and what are the consequences of doing so? Can I still use YaST's Software Management module to manage my installed packages?

Andreas

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Andreas, On Friday 03 November 2006 07:47, Andreas Jaeger wrote:

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Won't you fix this constant running? Surely that cannot be normal operation, can it? At this point, it has run up 340 minutes of CPU time. What's it doing with this interminable activity?

This is a bug - so, please file it with zmd-*log files.

Done. though I could find nothing corresponding to "zmd-* log fiels," so I used "other". Bug 217775: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=217775

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Andreas

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