[opensuse-factory] Test-Kernel
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 As you can see, everything is allright now: The error-message. Than i cleaned up /boot, retried, and the result. (only the libxine dependencies are not fullfilled, (version 10.1) (why is jre not installed by default?) Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: installing package kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33 needs 8MB on the /boot filesystem - --- libMagick.so.9()(64bit) is needed by libxine1-1.1.2cvs-20061122.pm.0.x86_64 libWand.so.9()(64bit) is needed by libxine1-1.1.2cvs-20061122.pm.0.x86_64 2006-11-25 14:09:05 libxine1-1.1.2cvs-20061122.pm.0.x86_64.rpm installed ok Additional rpm output: warning: waiting to reestablish exclusive database lock 2006-11-25 14:37:09 java-1_5_0-sun-1.5.0_update8-12.x86_64.rpm installed ok 2006-11-25 14:37:13 java-1_5_0-sun-plugin-1.5.0_update8-12.i586.rpm installed ok 2006-11-25 16:05:32 kdebindings3-java-3.5.5-26.x86_64.rpm installed ok kernel-default wordt opgehaald.../suse/x86_64/kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33.x86_64.rpm wordt geïnstalleerd: "The Standard Kernel for both Uniprocessor and Multiprocessor Systems" OK Installatie is gereed. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFbE8oX5/X5X6LpDgRAlvZAJ4zjM6ailszWyTKRxMET48VRDi2QQCgmQkh /9iShH9fCU1BVXyk+CaygkU= =sQtc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Robby (M9.) schrieb:
Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: installing package kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33 needs 8MB on the /boot filesystem
This error message is not from YaST, but from rpm and therefore it is either correct or, if it were wrong, nearly impossible to fix. Please note: You always need *twice* as much space in /boot as the kernel needs. Reason: rpm unpacks the new package first and deletes the old package afterwards. This means that for a short timeframe, rpm needs double disk space. Whenever you set up a Linux system, reserve more space for /boot than one kernel needs; reserve at least four times as much. Or change the setup not to have a /boot filesystem. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2006/11/28 16:05 (GMT+0100) Andreas Hanke apparently typed:
Robby (M9.) schrieb:
Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: installing package kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33 needs 8MB on the /boot filesystem
This error message is not from YaST, but from rpm and therefore it is either correct or, if it were wrong, nearly impossible to fix.
Please note: You always need *twice* as much space in /boot as the kernel needs.
Reason: rpm unpacks the new package first and deletes the old package afterwards. This means that for a short timeframe, rpm needs double disk space.
Whenever you set up a Linux system, reserve more space for /boot than one kernel needs; reserve at least four times as much. Or change the setup not to have a /boot filesystem.
Fedora's installer chastizes you if you try to set /boot to a partition of much less than 80M. I get that error any time I do a Fedora install to a 70M /boot partition, but not to a 78M /boot partition. Maybe SUSE's should do the same? -- "Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven." Matthew 5:12 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Hi,
Whenever you set up a Linux system, reserve more space for /boot than one kernel needs; reserve at least four times as much. Or change the setup not to have a /boot filesystem. Fedora's installer chastizes you if you try to set /boot to a partition of much less than 80M. I get that error any time I do a since many years I always set my extra boot partition (primary) to 23MB, but since I'm doing more with Xen and harddrives larger 100GB I decided to increase the boot partition to 1GB.
The question is, is it still usefull to create a seperate boot partition or could it also be together with / (root)? On most installations I have: /boot / /usr /tmp /var /home /extra-data... One disadvantage can be the you can't mount it readonly, but what else? -- Chau y hasta luego, Thorolf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Thorolf Godawa schreef:
Hi,
Whenever you set up a Linux system, reserve more space for /boot than one kernel needs; reserve at least four times as much. Or change the setup not to have a /boot filesystem. Fedora's installer chastizes you if you try to set /boot to a partition of much less than 80M. I get that error any time I do a since many years I always set my extra boot partition (primary) to 23MB, but since I'm doing more with Xen and harddrives larger 100GB I decided to increase the boot partition to 1GB.
The question is, is it still usefull to create a seperate boot partition or could it also be together with / (root)?
On most installations I have: /boot / /usr /tmp /var /home /extra-data...
One disadvantage can be the you can't mount it readonly, but what else?
1gig for /boot, seems a little overdone to me.How many kernels would you store there to test? Or you use the same /boot partition for all your distro's... The way it looks, 4 cylinders are going to be at least nessesary in the coming time.. as the kernels sizes increase by M's nowadays.. To have partitions has the advantage that the data does not have to scatter over the disc, so searchtime will be longer. Also the partitions are more easy to clean when seperate. But i think it is rather personal... M9. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.5 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFbGtkX5/X5X6LpDgRArZ/AJ9zuSrDgeSXsGAH5LdWc4FSYePo7gCgy5rL DSoTbbdHUVgcdxbpjvOfpx0= =j2Gj -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 2006/11/28 17:38 (GMT+0100) Thorolf Godawa apparently typed:
The question is, is it still usefull to create a seperate boot partition or could it also be together with / (root)?
One disadvantage can be the you can't mount it readonly, but what else?
Once you get a good working grub on a /boot partition, you can use it to start any number of installs on any number of partitions. On all but one install you leave /boot on the root partition, and on that installation you're not messing with the one that you know works. If a new install fails to properly complete or install its own grub, you can still start without need for rescue media. You can also copy the installation kernel and initrd for any given distro to the /boot partition, and never need to burn any CD to start either an install, or a rescue. If adequately sized, it can also be a handy location for backup copies of your most used config files to refer to or replace those resulting from a new install. It can also be useful if you shuffle hardware around frequently and might still have systems that recognize not more than 1024 cylinders for booting. -- "Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven." Matthew 5:12 NIV Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 Felix Miata *** http://mrmazda.no-ip.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Felix Miata a écrit :
On 2006/11/28 17:38 (GMT+0100) Thorolf Godawa apparently typed:
The question is, is it still usefull to create a seperate boot partition or could it also be together with / (root)?
One disadvantage can be the you can't mount it readonly, but what else?
Once you get a good working grub on a /boot partition, you can use it to start any number of installs on any number of partitions. On all but one install you leave /boot on the root partition, and on that installation you're not messing with the one that you know works. If a new install fails to properly complete or install its own grub, you can still start without need for rescue media. You can also copy the installation kernel and initrd for any given distro to the /boot partition, and never need to burn any CD to start either an install, or a rescue. If adequately sized, it can also be a handy location for backup copies of your most used config files to refer to or replace those resulting from a new install. It can also be useful if you shuffle hardware around frequently and might still have systems that recognize not more than 1024 cylinders for booting.
yes and on this respect, the default way of openSUSE to replace the MBR at install _without notice_ is BAD jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://dodin.org/mediawiki/index.php/GPS_Lowrance_GO --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 The Tuesday 2006-11-28 at 16:05 +0100, Andreas Hanke wrote:
Whenever you set up a Linux system, reserve more space for /boot than one kernel needs; reserve at least four times as much. Or change the setup not to have a /boot filesystem.
Ejem! Back in 2000, 23 Mb (two tracks) was sufficient for three or four kernels to spare. It is you who have increased the needed space, not us who selected insufficient space ;-) Now, I would like to give it one track more, but being /boot at the start of the disk it means shifting several partitions. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Made with pgp4pine 1.76 iD8DBQFFbFNctTMYHG2NR9URAo0oAJ0enPLN+hS5Gv2hHKccmH4JoiBrwACfV9bw 1atOBIiqzGTPUGrxKZBtG+A= =FEUY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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The Tuesday 2006-11-28 at 16:05 +0100, Andreas Hanke wrote:
Whenever you set up a Linux system, reserve more space for /boot than one kernel needs; reserve at least four times as much. Or change the setup not to have a /boot filesystem.
Ejem!
Back in 2000, 23 Mb (two tracks) was sufficient for three or four kernels to spare. It is you who have increased the needed space, not us who selected insufficient space ;-)
This is realy true, read the setup suse-linux handbook..
Now, I would like to give it one track more, but being /boot at the start of the disk it means shifting several partitions.
Yes, that is exactly the problem...
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Robby (M9.) schrieb:
Subprocess failed. Error: RPM failed: installing package kernel-default-2.6.18.2-33 needs 8MB on the /boot filesystem
This error message is not from YaST, but from rpm and therefore it is either correct or, if it were wrong, nearly impossible to fix.
It is correct, it can not install, too little room. (two cylinders, was allways enough, to install two kernels, untill 10.2..)
Please note: You always need *twice* as much space in /boot as the kernel needs.
The partitioner is not capable to make such changes, helas..
Reason: rpm unpacks the new package first and deletes the old package afterwards. This means that for a short timeframe, rpm needs double disk space.
Totaly clear..
Whenever you set up a Linux system, reserve more space for /boot than one kernel needs; reserve at least four times as much. Or change the setup not to have a /boot filesystem.
The partitionsizes reside from 9.0.... If the partitioner will not get upgraded, this will be a timerobbing business...(setting up new sizes) I will survive the way it is now, It is only impossible to test two kernels, pity.. M9.
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