[opensuse-factory] MOTD content and bit of expansion
Hello all, Currently we have in motd only "have a lot of fun..." string which is nice but sadly lacks some informative value. That is quite needed esp in container world to keep up at least some PR levels of what is being used. We can do many things there but I would aim for minimal approach that states something along the lines: "Welcome to openSUSE <release> host, have a lot of fun..." Alternatively we can gork some information and state what container technology we are using, how many resources are at hand/etc, but that might be way too much info :) Cheers Tom
On 2017-10-27 11:46, Tomas Chvatal wrote:
Hello all,
Currently we have in motd only "have a lot of fun..." string which is nice but sadly lacks some informative value. That is quite needed esp in container world to keep up at least some PR levels of what is being used.
We can do many things there but I would aim for minimal approach that states something along the lines:
"Welcome to openSUSE <release> host, have a lot of fun..."
You have that info in "issue" and "issue.net". Putting that into "motd" I think would be incorrect: motd (5) - message of the day The abbreviation "motd" stands for "message of the day", and this file has been traditionally used for exactly that (it requires much less disk space than mail to all users). -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
Carlos E. R. píše v Pá 27. 10. 2017 v 11:59 +0200:
On 2017-10-27 11:46, Tomas Chvatal wrote:
Hello all,
Currently we have in motd only "have a lot of fun..." string which is nice but sadly lacks some informative value. That is quite needed esp in container world to keep up at least some PR levels of what is being used.
We can do many things there but I would aim for minimal approach that states something along the lines:
"Welcome to openSUSE <release> host, have a lot of fun..."
You have that info in "issue" and "issue.net". Putting that into "motd" I think would be incorrect:
motd (5) - message of the day
The abbreviation "motd" stands for "message of the day", and this file has been traditionally used for exactly that (it requires much less disk space than mail to all users).
Now as you can see from the manpages issue is displayed prior the login prompt that is never shown in remote connections. For that motd is better used as it is displayed before launching the login shell, thus writing something after you ssh to machine. Tom
On Friday 2017-10-27 12:13, Tomas Chvatal wrote:
Now as you can see from the manpages issue is displayed prior the login prompt that is never shown in remote connections.
Alternatively configure the "Banner" directive of sshd? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Jan Engelhardt píše v Pá 27. 10. 2017 v 12:21 +0200:
On Friday 2017-10-27 12:13, Tomas Chvatal wrote:
Now as you can see from the manpages issue is displayed prior the login prompt that is never shown in remote connections.
Alternatively configure the "Banner" directive of sshd?
That disqualifies the windows subsystem for linux where it would not be shown. Simply motd is the most comfy way to display it on most desirable locations. Tom
On 2017-10-27 12:13, Tomas Chvatal wrote:
Carlos E. R. píše v Pá 27. 10. 2017 v 11:59 +0200:
On 2017-10-27 11:46, Tomas Chvatal wrote:
Hello all,
Currently we have in motd only "have a lot of fun..." string which is nice but sadly lacks some informative value. That is quite needed esp in container world to keep up at least some PR levels of what is being used.
We can do many things there but I would aim for minimal approach that states something along the lines:
"Welcome to openSUSE <release> host, have a lot of fun..."
You have that info in "issue" and "issue.net". Putting that into "motd" I think would be incorrect:
motd (5) - message of the day
The abbreviation "motd" stands for "message of the day", and this file has been traditionally used for exactly that (it requires much less disk space than mail to all users).
Now as you can see from the manpages issue is displayed prior the login prompt that is never shown in remote connections. For that motd is better used as it is displayed before launching the login shell, thus writing something after you ssh to machine.
Yes, but the purpose of motd is different, the administrator can change it daily for any reason he likes. -- Cheers / Saludos, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar)
On Fri, Oct 27, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yes, but the purpose of motd is different, the administrator can change it daily for any reason he likes.
No admin is changing the motd inside an container. And this is also important: we don't need to change the default /etc/motd in openSUSE Tumbleweed, but the scripts building the openSUSE base container should be adjusted to create a /etc/motd with all relevant informations. Thorsten -- Thorsten Kukuk, Distinguished Engineer, Senior Architect SLES & CaaSP SUSE LINUX GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany GF: Felix Imendoerffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nuernberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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On Fri, Oct 27, Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yes, but the purpose of motd is different, the administrator can change it daily for any reason he likes.
No admin is changing the motd inside an container. And this is also important: we don't need to change the default /etc/motd in openSUSE Tumbleweed, but the scripts building the openSUSE base container should be adjusted to create a /etc/motd with all relevant informations.
Ah, I see. Thanks. - -- Cheers, Carlos E. R. (from 42.2 x86_64 "Malachite" at Telcontar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2 iEYEARECAAYFAlnzE/QACgkQtTMYHG2NR9V5VACghVHi+z86KdzTVMDIkAYi9bmL XfcAnj6qp7HM9GzvXElebQ8au3WXYbje =Ahqo -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yes, but the purpose of motd is different, the administrator can change it daily for any reason he likes.
Indeed. And it is normally the first thing that I do (erase text in there) as I don't appreciate my new login window being already filled with tons of text... SCNR -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Dne pátek 27. října 2017 15:12:56 CEST, Peter Suetterlin napsal(a):
Carlos E. R. wrote:
Yes, but the purpose of motd is different, the administrator can change it daily for any reason he likes.
Indeed. And it is normally the first thing that I do (erase text in there) as I don't appreciate my new login window being already filled with tons of text...
Just a small example of MOTD tunning from https://www.metacentrum.cz/en/ :-) $ ssh XXX@tarkil.metacentrum.cz # On my computer XXX@tarkil.metacentrum.cz's password: The programs included with the Debian GNU/Linux system are free software; the exact distribution terms for each program are described in the individual files in /usr/share/doc/*/copyright. Debian GNU/Linux comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by applicable law. Last login: Thu Oct 19 08:40:03 2017 from i016.ibot.cas.cz __ __ _ ____ _ | \/ | ___| |_ __ _ / ___| ___ _ __ | |_ _ __ _ _ _ __ ___ | |\/| |/ _ \ __|/ _` | | / _ \ \_ \| __| \__| | | | \_ ` _ \ | | | | __/ |_| (_| | |___| __/ | | | |_| | | |_| | | | | | | |_| |_|\___|\__|\__,_|\____|\___|_| |_|\__|_| \__,_|_| |_| |_| Your Home Directories ---------------------- Size Avail S.Quota Used Directory 110T 33T 31G 20M /storage/brno2/home/XXX 932T 605T none 0 /storage/brno3-cerit/home/XXX 262T 71T 209G 0 /storage/brno6/home/XXX 374T 164T 1T 0 /storage/brno7-cerit/home/XXX 88T 25T 102G 164k /storage/brno8/home/XXX 44T 8.9T 102G 32k /storage/budejovice1/home/XXX 352T 209T 1T 128k /storage/plzen1/home/XXX 100T 50T 524G 2G /storage/praha1/home/XXX CPUs ----- Free Used Total Centre 795 3371 4166 CERIT 1324 5472 6796 META Contact -------- E-mail: meta (at) cesnet (dot) cz Web: http://www.metacentrum.cz/ Linux tarkil.grid.cesnet.cz 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.36-1+deb8u2+zs1 (2016-10-20) x86_64 $ # And now I can type my first command :-) -- Vojtěch Zeisek https://trapa.cz/
On 27 October 2017 at 11:46, Tomas Chvatal
Hello all,
Currently we have in motd only "have a lot of fun..." string which is nice but sadly lacks some informative value. That is quite needed esp in container world to keep up at least some PR levels of what is being used.
We can do many things there but I would aim for minimal approach that states something along the lines:
"Welcome to openSUSE <release> host, have a lot of fun..."
Alternatively we can gork some information and state what container technology we are using, how many resources are at hand/etc, but that might be way too much info :)
Cheers
Tom
I agree. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Tomas Chvatal wrote:
Currently we have in motd only "have a lot of fun..." string which is nice but sadly lacks some informative value. That is quite needed esp in container world to keep up at least some PR levels of what is being used.
Which program exactly displays that information in the scenario you envision here? cu Ludwig -- (o_ Ludwig Nussel //\ V_/_ http://www.suse.com/ SUSE Linux GmbH, GF: Felix Imendörffer, Jane Smithard, Graham Norton, HRB 21284 (AG Nürnberg) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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Carlos E. R. -
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Richard Brown -
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Tomas Chvatal -
Vojtěch Zeisek