Re: [opensuse-factory] TW/Libreoffice 6
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:32:16 CET schrieben Sie:
Am 02.02.2018 um 20:21 schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:16:46 CET schrieb Frank Krüger:
Is it possible that you have still installed libreoffice-gnome/-gtk3 instead of libreoffice-kde4?
Right you are: libreoffice-gtk3 is installed additional to -kde4 As I'm on TW nearly a year now - should it have been deinstalled during any upgrade?
Thanks Axel
Removing libreoffice-gtk3, does it solve the issue (i.e. does it provide the dialogue shown by H.Z. in t he mailing list?
Looks more like a dialog from the 90's: http://paste.opensuse.org/21229311 /Ax -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 02.02.2018 um 20:37 schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:32:16 CET schrieben Sie:
Am 02.02.2018 um 20:21 schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:16:46 CET schrieb Frank Krüger:
Is it possible that you have still installed libreoffice-gnome/-gtk3 instead of libreoffice-kde4?
Right you are: libreoffice-gtk3 is installed additional to -kde4 As I'm on TW nearly a year now - should it have been deinstalled during any upgrade?
Thanks Axel
Removing libreoffice-gtk3, does it solve the issue (i.e. does it provide the dialogue shown by H.Z. in t he mailing list?
Looks more like a dialog from the 90's: http://paste.opensuse.org/21229311
/Ax
Strange. What does rpm -qa libreoffice* give? Regards, Frank -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op vrijdag 2 februari 2018 20:37:44 CET schreef Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:32:16 CET schrieben Sie:
Am 02.02.2018 um 20:21 schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:16:46 CET schrieb Frank Krüger:
Is it possible that you have still installed libreoffice-gnome/-gtk3 instead of libreoffice-kde4?
Right you are: libreoffice-gtk3 is installed additional to -kde4 As I'm on TW nearly a year now - should it have been deinstalled during any upgrade?
Thanks Axel
Removing libreoffice-gtk3, does it solve the issue (i.e. does it provide the dialogue shown by H.Z. in t he mailing list?
Looks more like a dialog from the 90's: http://paste.opensuse.org/21229311
/Ax
Removing the libreoffice-gtk3 package and forcing a reinstall of the libreoffice-kde4 package, and a re-login brings back the right top icon ... -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday, 2 February 2018 19:54:34 GMT Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op vrijdag 2 februari 2018 20:37:44 CET schreef Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:32:16 CET schrieben Sie:
Am 02.02.2018 um 20:21 schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:16:46 CET schrieb Frank Krüger:
Is it possible that you have still installed libreoffice-gnome/-gtk3 instead of libreoffice-kde4?
Right you are: libreoffice-gtk3 is installed additional to -kde4 As I'm on TW nearly a year now - should it have been deinstalled during any upgrade?
Thanks Axel
Removing libreoffice-gtk3, does it solve the issue (i.e. does it provide the dialogue shown by H.Z. in t he mailing list?
Looks more like a dialog from the 90's: http://paste.opensuse.org/21229311
/Ax
Removing the libreoffice-gtk3 package and forcing a reinstall of the libreoffice-kde4 package, and a re-login brings back the right top icon ... If I recall correct, libreoffice-gtk3 is automatically removed during the upgrade.
But another problem, the folder shows hidden files/folders by default, is still there. Maybe this is not a problem from another point of view since normal user should at least be reminded the right way to show/hide hidden files/folders. Regards, Haoxian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 21:16:12 CET schrieb H Zeng:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 19:54:34 GMT Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op vrijdag 2 februari 2018 20:37:44 CET schreef Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:32:16 CET schrieben Sie:
Am 02.02.2018 um 20:21 schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:16:46 CET schrieb Frank Krüger:
Is it possible that you have still installed libreoffice-gnome/-gtk3 instead of libreoffice-kde4?
Right you are: libreoffice-gtk3 is installed additional to -kde4 As I'm on TW nearly a year now - should it have been deinstalled during any upgrade?
Thanks Axel
Removing libreoffice-gtk3, does it solve the issue (i.e. does it provide the dialogue shown by H.Z. in t he mailing list?
Looks more like a dialog from the 90's: http://paste.opensuse.org/21229311
/Ax
Removing the libreoffice-gtk3 package and forcing a reinstall of the libreoffice-kde4 package, and a re-login brings back the right top icon ...
Yes, that worked! Now it looks more familar again :-)
If I recall correct, libreoffice-gtk3 is automatically removed during the upgrade.
Obviously not.... Thanks to all for support! Axel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 02.02.2018 um 21:33 schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 21:16:12 CET schrieb H Zeng:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 19:54:34 GMT Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op vrijdag 2 februari 2018 20:37:44 CET schreef Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:32:16 CET schrieben Sie:
Am 02.02.2018 um 20:21 schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:16:46 CET schrieb Frank Krüger: > Is it possible that you have still installed > libreoffice-gnome/-gtk3 > instead of libreoffice-kde4?
Right you are: libreoffice-gtk3 is installed additional to -kde4 As I'm on TW nearly a year now - should it have been deinstalled during any upgrade?
Thanks Axel
Removing libreoffice-gtk3, does it solve the issue (i.e. does it provide the dialogue shown by H.Z. in t he mailing list?
Looks more like a dialog from the 90's: http://paste.opensuse.org/21229311
/Ax
Removing the libreoffice-gtk3 package and forcing a reinstall of the libreoffice-kde4 package, and a re-login brings back the right top icon ...
Yes, that worked! Now it looks more familar again :-)
If I recall correct, libreoffice-gtk3 is automatically removed during the upgrade.
Obviously not....
Agreed. See, e.g., https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-01/msg00213.html. Bug report? Regards, Frank -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 02.02.2018 um 21:33 schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 21:16:12 CET schrieb H Zeng:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 19:54:34 GMT Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op vrijdag 2 februari 2018 20:37:44 CET schreef Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:32:16 CET schrieben Sie:
Am 02.02.2018 um 20:21 schrieb Axel Braun: > Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:16:46 CET schrieb Frank Krüger: >> Is it possible that you have still installed >> libreoffice-gnome/-gtk3 >> instead of libreoffice-kde4? > > ...
Removing the libreoffice-gtk3 package and forcing a reinstall of the libreoffice-kde4 package, and a re-login brings back the right top icon ...
Yes, that worked! Now it looks more familar again :-)
If I recall correct, libreoffice-gtk3 is automatically removed during the upgrade.
Obviously not....
Agreed. See, e.g., https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-01/msg00213.html. Bug report?
Regards, Frank I cannot remember whether libreoffice-gtk3 is initially installed or not. If not, then I have installed it manually. (All these are for some testing
On Friday, 2 February 2018 20:52:54 GMT Frank Krüger wrote: purpose which I cannot remember. My memory is really not reliable as you can see.) But I do have this package removed some time long before the LO 6.0 update. Maybe that's way I have no problem with the dialog. Does anyone know whether libreoffice-gtk3 is initially installed with LO in KF5 DE or not? Cheers, Haoxian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 02.02.2018 um 22:06 schrieb H Zeng:
Am 02.02.2018 um 21:33 schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 21:16:12 CET schrieb H Zeng:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 19:54:34 GMT Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op vrijdag 2 februari 2018 20:37:44 CET schreef Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:32:16 CET schrieben Sie: > Am 02.02.2018 um 20:21 schrieb Axel Braun: >> Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:16:46 CET schrieb Frank Krüger: >>> Is it possible that you have still installed >>> libreoffice-gnome/-gtk3 >>> instead of libreoffice-kde4? >> >> ...
Removing the libreoffice-gtk3 package and forcing a reinstall of the libreoffice-kde4 package, and a re-login brings back the right top icon ...
Yes, that worked! Now it looks more familar again :-)
If I recall correct, libreoffice-gtk3 is automatically removed during the upgrade.
Obviously not....
Agreed. See, e.g., https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-01/msg00213.html. Bug report?
Regards, Frank I cannot remember whether libreoffice-gtk3 is initially installed or not. If not, then I have installed it manually. (All these are for some testing
On Friday, 2 February 2018 20:52:54 GMT Frank Krüger wrote: purpose which I cannot remember. My memory is really not reliable as you can see.) But I do have this package removed some time long before the LO 6.0 update. Maybe that's way I have no problem with the dialog.
Does anyone know whether libreoffice-gtk3 is initially installed with LO in KF5 DE or not?
if I remember correctly, libreoffice-kde4 was removed in TW 20171021, but was not replaced automatically by libreoffice-gtk3. I had to do it manually.. Regards, Frank -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday, 2 February 2018 21:12:27 GMT Frank Krüger wrote:
Am 02.02.2018 um 22:06 schrieb H Zeng:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 20:52:54 GMT Frank Krüger wrote:
Am 02.02.2018 um 21:33 schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 21:16:12 CET schrieb H Zeng:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 19:54:34 GMT Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op vrijdag 2 februari 2018 20:37:44 CET schreef Axel Braun: > Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:32:16 CET schrieben Sie: >> Am 02.02.2018 um 20:21 schrieb Axel Braun: >>> Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:16:46 CET schrieb Frank Krüger: >>>> Is it possible that you have still installed >>>> libreoffice-gnome/-gtk3 >>>> instead of libreoffice-kde4? >>> >>> ...
Removing the libreoffice-gtk3 package and forcing a reinstall of the libreoffice-kde4 package, and a re-login brings back the right top icon ...
Yes, that worked! Now it looks more familar again :-)
If I recall correct, libreoffice-gtk3 is automatically removed during the upgrade.
Obviously not....
Agreed. See, e.g., https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-01/msg00213.html. Bug report?
Regards, Frank
I cannot remember whether libreoffice-gtk3 is initially installed or not. If not, then I have installed it manually. (All these are for some testing purpose which I cannot remember. My memory is really not reliable as you can see.) But I do have this package removed some time long before the LO 6.0 update. Maybe that's way I have no problem with the dialog.
Does anyone know whether libreoffice-gtk3 is initially installed with LO in KF5 DE or not?
if I remember correctly, libreoffice-kde4 was removed in TW 20171021, but was not replaced automatically by libreoffice-gtk3. I had to do it manually..
Regards, Frank Thanks, Frank :-)
Then, I think there is no need for a bug report because the problem pops up only when libreoffice-gtk3 was intentionally installed. We should not remove libreoffice-gtk3 on update because it's installed by the user not by default, should we? Cheers, Haoxian -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 02.02.2018 um 22:21 schrieb H Zeng:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 21:12:27 GMT Frank Krüger wrote:
Am 02.02.2018 um 22:06 schrieb H Zeng:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 20:52:54 GMT Frank Krüger wrote:
Am 02.02.2018 um 21:33 schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 21:16:12 CET schrieb H Zeng:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 19:54:34 GMT Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote: > Op vrijdag 2 februari 2018 20:37:44 CET schreef Axel Braun: >> Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:32:16 CET schrieben Sie: >>> Am 02.02.2018 um 20:21 schrieb Axel Braun: >>>> Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:16:46 CET schrieb Frank Krüger: >>>>> Is it possible that you have still installed >>>>> libreoffice-gnome/-gtk3 >>>>> instead of libreoffice-kde4? >>>> >>>> ... > > Removing the libreoffice-gtk3 package and forcing a reinstall of the > libreoffice-kde4 package, and a re-login brings back the right top > icon > ...
Yes, that worked! Now it looks more familar again :-)
If I recall correct, libreoffice-gtk3 is automatically removed during the upgrade.
Obviously not....
Agreed. See, e.g., https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-01/msg00213.html. Bug report?
Regards, Frank
I cannot remember whether libreoffice-gtk3 is initially installed or not. If not, then I have installed it manually. (All these are for some testing purpose which I cannot remember. My memory is really not reliable as you can see.) But I do have this package removed some time long before the LO 6.0 update. Maybe that's way I have no problem with the dialog.
Does anyone know whether libreoffice-gtk3 is initially installed with LO in KF5 DE or not?
if I remember correctly, libreoffice-kde4 was removed in TW 20171021, but was not replaced automatically by libreoffice-gtk3. I had to do it manually..
Regards, Frank Thanks, Frank :-)
Then, I think there is no need for a bug report because the problem pops up only when libreoffice-gtk3 was intentionally installed. We should not remove libreoffice-gtk3 on update because it's installed by the user not by default, should we?
Agreed. Thx. Regards, Frank -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op vrijdag 2 februari 2018 22:24:25 CET schreef Frank Krüger:
Am 02.02.2018 um 22:21 schrieb H Zeng:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 21:12:27 GMT Frank Krüger wrote:
Am 02.02.2018 um 22:06 schrieb H Zeng:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 20:52:54 GMT Frank Krüger wrote:
Am 02.02.2018 um 21:33 schrieb Axel Braun:
Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 21:16:12 CET schrieb H Zeng: > On Friday, 2 February 2018 19:54:34 GMT Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink
wrote:
>> Op vrijdag 2 februari 2018 20:37:44 CET schreef Axel Braun: >>> Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:32:16 CET schrieben Sie: >>>> Am 02.02.2018 um 20:21 schrieb Axel Braun: >>>>> Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:16:46 CET schrieb Frank Krüger: >>>>>> Is it possible that you have still installed >>>>>> libreoffice-gnome/-gtk3 >>>>>> instead of libreoffice-kde4? >>>>> >>>>> ... >> >> Removing the libreoffice-gtk3 package and forcing a reinstall of the >> libreoffice-kde4 package, and a re-login brings back the right top >> icon >> ...
Yes, that worked! Now it looks more familar again :-)
> If I recall correct, libreoffice-gtk3 is automatically removed during > the > upgrade.
Obviously not....
Agreed. See, e.g., https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-01/msg00213.html. Bug report?
Regards, Frank
I cannot remember whether libreoffice-gtk3 is initially installed or not. If not, then I have installed it manually. (All these are for some testing purpose which I cannot remember. My memory is really not reliable as you can see.) But I do have this package removed some time long before the LO 6.0 update. Maybe that's way I have no problem with the dialog.
Does anyone know whether libreoffice-gtk3 is initially installed with LO in KF5 DE or not?
if I remember correctly, libreoffice-kde4 was removed in TW 20171021, but was not replaced automatically by libreoffice-gtk3. I had to do it manually..
Regards, Frank
Thanks, Frank :-)
Then, I think there is no need for a bug report because the problem pops up only when libreoffice-gtk3 was intentionally installed. We should not remove libreoffice-gtk3 on update because it's installed by the user not by default, should we?
Agreed. Thx.
Regards, Frank
IIRC libreoffice-kde4 packages were reintroduced . Yet the gtk3 package should be uninstalled if on a KDE desktop -- Gertjan Lettink, a.k.a. Knurpht openSUSE Board Member openSUSE Forums Team -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
if the reason libreoffice-gtk3 was installed was due to another package will uninstall not then break the other package? have done a reverse dependency search sudo zypper se -i --requires libreoffice-gtk3 and nothing comes up. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2018, 07:26:13 schrieb nicholas cunliffe:
if the reason libreoffice-gtk3 was installed was due to another package will uninstall not then break the other package? have done a reverse dependency search sudo zypper se -i --requires libreoffice-gtk3 and nothing comes up.
It's not requires, just like libreoffice-kde4 is not required. These packages supplement the corresponding desktop, i.e. they get installed as recommended package if the corresponding desktop is installed. (This also means that you won't get them automatically if you disabled installation of recommended packages). It normally shouldn't be a problem to have both installed, LibreOffice should choose the proper one depending on which desktop is running. But there's one "issue": libreoffice-gnome pulls in ibus, and ibus OTOH forces LO to use the GNOME integration if that is installed, due to some obscure "cursor following problem" I know nothing about. This is the comment in the corresponding script (/etc/X11/xim.d/ibus): # Force OOo to use gtk-immodule # Only libreoffice-gnome supports IM module # To fix cursor following problem (on_the_spot), do not use libreoffice-kde4 if [ -e /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtklo.so ] || [ -e /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtklo.so ] || [ -e /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtk3lo.so ] || [ -e /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtk3lo.so ]; then export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome else echo "libreoffice-gnome is not found. For better IBus support, please install libreoffice-gnome" fi IOW, uninstalling ibus should give you back the KDE integration, if libreoffice-kde4 and libreoffice-gnome/gtk3 are installed. Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
so i researched and instead of delete, created /etc/profile.d/libreoffice-fresh.sh containing 'export SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=kde4' ugly dialogue has gone and i now have standard dialogue. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
* Wolfgang Bauer
Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2018, 07:26:13 schrieb nicholas cunliffe:
if the reason libreoffice-gtk3 was installed was due to another package will uninstall not then break the other package? have done a reverse dependency search sudo zypper se -i --requires libreoffice-gtk3 and nothing comes up.
It's not requires, just like libreoffice-kde4 is not required.
These packages supplement the corresponding desktop, i.e. they get installed as recommended package if the corresponding desktop is installed. (This also means that you won't get them automatically if you disabled installation of recommended packages).
It normally shouldn't be a problem to have both installed, LibreOffice should choose the proper one depending on which desktop is running.
But there's one "issue": libreoffice-gnome pulls in ibus, and ibus OTOH forces LO to use the GNOME integration if that is installed, due to some obscure "cursor following problem" I know nothing about. This is the comment in the corresponding script (/etc/X11/xim.d/ibus): # Force OOo to use gtk-immodule # Only libreoffice-gnome supports IM module # To fix cursor following problem (on_the_spot), do not use libreoffice-kde4 if [ -e /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtklo.so ] || [ -e /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtklo.so ] || [ -e /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtk3lo.so ] || [ -e /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtk3lo.so ]; then export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome else echo "libreoffice-gnome is not found. For better IBus support, please install libreoffice-gnome" fi
IOW, uninstalling ibus should give you back the KDE integration, if libreoffice-kde4 and libreoffice-gnome/gtk3 are installed.
zypper -v se -si --requires libibus Verbosity: 1 Non-option program arguments: 'libibus' Initializing Target Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Force resolution: No S | Name | Type | Version | Arch | Repository ---+-----------------+---------+-------------+--------+------------------------ i+ | plasma5-desktop | package | 5.11.95-1.1 | x86_64 | openSUSE-Tumbleweed OSS -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA @ptilopteri http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member facebook/ptilopteri Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net Photos: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/piwigo paka @ IRCnet freenode -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Samstag, 3. Februar 2018, 08:31:26 schrieb Patrick Shanahan:
zypper -v se -si --requires libibus
*NOT* libibus, but ibus. Same as last time... Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 03/02/18 07:58, Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink wrote:
Op vrijdag 2 februari 2018 22:24:25 CET schreef Frank Krüger:
Am 02.02.2018 um 22:21 schrieb H Zeng:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 21:12:27 GMT Frank Krüger wrote:
Am 02.02.2018 um 22:06 schrieb H Zeng:
On Friday, 2 February 2018 20:52:54 GMT Frank Krüger wrote:
Am 02.02.2018 um 21:33 schrieb Axel Braun: > Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 21:16:12 CET schrieb H Zeng: >> On Friday, 2 February 2018 19:54:34 GMT Knurpht - Gertjan Lettink
wrote:
>>> Op vrijdag 2 februari 2018 20:37:44 CET schreef Axel Braun: >>>> Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:32:16 CET schrieben Sie: >>>>> Am 02.02.2018 um 20:21 schrieb Axel Braun: >>>>>> Am Freitag, 2. Februar 2018, 20:16:46 CET schrieb Frank Krüger: >>>>>>> Is it possible that you have still installed >>>>>>> libreoffice-gnome/-gtk3 >>>>>>> instead of libreoffice-kde4? >>>>>> >>>>>> ... >>> >>> Removing the libreoffice-gtk3 package and forcing a reinstall of the >>> libreoffice-kde4 package, and a re-login brings back the right top >>> icon >>> ... > > Yes, that worked! Now it looks more familar again :-) > >> If I recall correct, libreoffice-gtk3 is automatically removed during >> the >> upgrade. > > Obviously not....
Agreed. See, e.g., https://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-factory/2018-01/msg00213.html. Bug report?
Regards, Frank
I cannot remember whether libreoffice-gtk3 is initially installed or not. If not, then I have installed it manually. (All these are for some testing purpose which I cannot remember. My memory is really not reliable as you can see.) But I do have this package removed some time long before the LO 6.0 update. Maybe that's way I have no problem with the dialog.
Does anyone know whether libreoffice-gtk3 is initially installed with LO in KF5 DE or not?
if I remember correctly, libreoffice-kde4 was removed in TW 20171021, but was not replaced automatically by libreoffice-gtk3. I had to do it manually..
Regards, Frank
Thanks, Frank :-)
Then, I think there is no need for a bug report because the problem pops up only when libreoffice-gtk3 was intentionally installed. We should not remove libreoffice-gtk3 on update because it's installed by the user not by default, should we?
Agreed. Thx.
Regards, Frank
IIRC libreoffice-kde4 packages were reintroduced . Yet the gtk3 package should be uninstalled if on a KDE desktop
In practice I don't think its possible to to teach RPM this, especially when you consider that someone may have gnome + kde installed and now generally uses gnome. The best solution would be if libreoffice checked which versions were currently installed then based off environment variables choose whether to load the GTK or KDE version (and maybe make it user configurable for those of us not using kde or gnome). -- Simon Lees (Simotek) http://simotek.net Emergency Update Team keybase.io/simotek SUSE Linux Adelaide Australia, UTC+10:30 GPG Fingerprint: 5B87 DB9D 88DC F606 E489 CEC5 0922 C246 02F0 014B
Am Montag, 5. Februar 2018, 01:03:57 CET schrieb Simon Lees:
IIRC libreoffice-kde4 packages were reintroduced . Yet the gtk3 package should be uninstalled if on a KDE desktop
In practice I don't think its possible to to teach RPM this, especially when you consider that someone may have gnome + kde installed and now generally uses gnome.
The best solution would be if libreoffice checked which versions were currently installed then based off environment variables choose whether to load the GTK or KDE version (and maybe make it user configurable for those of us not using kde or gnome).
Sounds like a feature request for upstream Best, Axel -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
The best solution would be if libreoffice checked which versions were currently installed then based off environment variables choose whether to load the GTK or KDE version
modifying SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN is too much trouble? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am Montag, 5. Februar 2018, 09:22:59 schrieb nicholas cunliffe:
The best solution would be if libreoffice checked which versions were currently installed then based off environment variables choose whether to load the GTK or KDE version
modifying SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN is too much trouble?
Again: LibreOffice does check which desktop is running, and should use the corresponding desktop integration automatically, i.e. libreoffice-kde4 on Plasma. (unless that has changed in LO6, but I doubt it) But, openSUSE's ibus package forces the GNOME integration if that's installed, by setting OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome on login. And ibus supplements libreoffice-gnome, so gets pulled in as recommended package if libreoffice-gnome is installed... So you need to uninstall ibus (or libreoffice-gnome) to have it actually use the KDE integration. It is possible to force a specific plugin via environment variables, but that should normally not be necessary. (except if you e.g. want to use the KDE integration on GNOME, the desktop you use is not detected/supported and you want the GNOME or KDE integration, or something like that) Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 11:35:14 +0100, Wolfgang Bauer
Am Montag, 5. Februar 2018, 09:22:59 schrieb nicholas cunliffe:
The best solution would be if libreoffice checked which versions were currently installed then based off environment variables choose whether to load the GTK or KDE version
modifying SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN is too much trouble?
Again: LibreOffice does check which desktop is running, and should use the corresponding desktop integration automatically, i.e. libreoffice-kde4 on Plasma. (unless that has changed in LO6, but I doubt it)
But, openSUSE's ibus package forces the GNOME integration if that's installed, by setting OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome on login.
not here (using a tcsh in Plasma5 on xterm)
And ibus supplements libreoffice-gnome, so gets pulled in as recommended package if libreoffice-gnome is installed...
No problem there
So you need to uninstall ibus (or libreoffice-gnome) to have it actually use the KDE integration.
Sounds like a plan ... # zypper rm libreoffice-gnome Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... The following 2 packages are going to be REMOVED: libreoffice-gnome libreoffice-gtk3 Hmm, wouldn't uninstall libreoffice-gtk3 not also break KDE/Plasma integration? Personally I don't care at all about Gnome desktop (integration), but this looks like cross-dependency
It is possible to force a specific plugin via environment variables, but that should normally not be necessary. (except if you e.g. want to use the KDE integration on GNOME, the desktop you use is not detected/supported and you want the GNOME or KDE integration, or something like that)
Wolfgang
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Am Freitag, 23. Februar 2018, 12:30:58 schrieb H.Merijn Brand:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 11:35:14 +0100, Wolfgang Bauer
wrote:
But, openSUSE's ibus package forces the GNOME integration if that's installed, by setting OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome on login.
not here (using a tcsh in Plasma5 on xterm)
Well, as I already pointed out, /etc/X11/xim.d/ibus contains this: # Force OOo to use gtk-immodule # Only libreoffice-gnome supports IM module # To fix cursor following problem (on_the_spot), do not use libreoffice-kde4 if [ -e /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtklo.so ] || [ -e /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtklo.so ] || [ -e /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtk3lo.so ] || [ -e /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtk3lo.so ]; then export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome else echo "libreoffice-gnome is not found. For better IBus support, please install libreoffice-gnome" fi I don't know whether this would show up in your "tcsh in Plasma5 on xterm" too, or what you did to check that... ;-)
Hmm, wouldn't uninstall libreoffice-gtk3 not also break KDE/Plasma integration?
No. Why would you think that? The KDE/Plasma integration is provided by libreoffice-kde4. Of course you need to have *that* installed to use it though. libreoffice-gtk3 contains the GTK(3) integration obviously... "This package contains Gtk3 interface rendering option for LibreOffice." My point was that the KDE integration is never used (automatically) even if it is installed, when both libreoffice-gnome/libreoffice-gtk3 (either of them) *and* ibus are installed as well. The latter (ibus) basically "breaks" the automatic selection in that case, as it forces libreoffice to use the GNOME integration regardless of the desktop in use.
Personally I don't care at all about Gnome desktop (integration), but this looks like cross-dependency
I don't understand. What do you mean with "cross-dependency" here? Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 13:53:03 +0100, Wolfgang Bauer
Am Freitag, 23. Februar 2018, 12:30:58 schrieb H.Merijn Brand:
On Mon, 05 Feb 2018 11:35:14 +0100, Wolfgang Bauer
wrote:
But, openSUSE's ibus package forces the GNOME integration if that's installed, by setting OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome on login.
not here (using a tcsh in Plasma5 on xterm)
Well, as I already pointed out, /etc/X11/xim.d/ibus contains this: # Force OOo to use gtk-immodule # Only libreoffice-gnome supports IM module # To fix cursor following problem (on_the_spot), do not use libreoffice-kde4 if [ -e /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtklo.so ] || [ -e /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtklo.so ] || [ -e /usr/lib64/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtk3lo.so ] || [ -e /usr/lib/libreoffice/program/libvclplug_gtk3lo.so ]; then export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=gnome else echo "libreoffice-gnome is not found. For better IBus support, please install libreoffice-gnome" fi
I don't know whether this would show up in your "tcsh in Plasma5 on xterm" too, or what you did to check that... ;-)
% env | grep -i ooo
Hmm, wouldn't uninstall libreoffice-gtk3 not also break KDE/Plasma integration?
No. Why would you think that?
The KDE/Plasma integration is provided by libreoffice-kde4. Of course you need to have *that* installed to use it though.
$ zypper se -i libreoffice S | Name | Summary | Type ---+-------------------------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------+------------ i+ | LibreOffice Base | Database manager part of the LibreOffice productivity suite | application i+ | LibreOffice Calc | Spreadsheet program of the LibreOffice productivity suite | application i+ | LibreOffice Draw | Graphics editor part of the LibreOffice productivity suite | application i+ | LibreOffice Impress | Presentation program of the LibreOffice productivity suite | application i+ | LibreOffice Writer | Word processor part of the LibreOffice productivity suite | application i+ | libreoffice | A Free Office Suite (Framework) | package i | libreoffice-base | LibreOffice Base | package i | libreoffice-base-drivers-mysql | MySQL Database Driver for LibreOffice | package i+ | libreoffice-base-drivers-postgresql | PostgreSQL Database Driver for LibreOffice | package i | libreoffice-branding-upstream | Original Branding for LibreOffice | package i | libreoffice-calc | LibreOffice Calc | package i+ | libreoffice-calc-extensions | LibreOffice Calc Extensions | package i | libreoffice-draw | LibreOffice Draw | package i | libreoffice-filters-optional | Additional Import and Export Filters for LibreOffice | package i | libreoffice-gnome | GNOME Extensions for LibreOffice | package i+ | libreoffice-gtk3 | Gtk3 interface for LibreOffice | package i+ | libreoffice-icon-themes | LibreOffice Icon Themes | package i | libreoffice-impress | LibreOffice Impress | package i | libreoffice-kde4 | kde4 interface for LibreOffice | package i | libreoffice-l10n-en | English Localization Files for LibreOffice | package i+ | libreoffice-l10n-nl | Dutch Localization Files for LibreOffice | package i | libreoffice-mailmerge | Mail Merge Functionality for LibreOffice | package i | libreoffice-math | LibreOffice Math | package i | libreoffice-pyuno | Python UNO Bridge for LibreOffice | package i | libreoffice-share-linker | Script to link/unlink files to libreoffice home | package i | libreoffice-writer | LibreOffice Writer and Web | package i+ | libreoffice-writer-extensions | LibreOffice Writer Extensions | package i+ | libreofficekit | A library providing access to LibreOffice functionality | package
libreoffice-gtk3 contains the GTK(3) integration obviously... "This package contains Gtk3 interface rendering option for LibreOffice."
My point was that the KDE integration is never used (automatically) even if it is installed, when both libreoffice-gnome/libreoffice-gtk3 (either of them) *and* ibus are installed as well.
$ zypper se -i ibus S | Name | Summary | Type ---+----------------------------+-------------------------------------------------------------------+-------- i+ | ibus | Intelligent Input Bus for Linux OS | package i+ | ibus-branding-openSUSE-KDE | openSUSE branding for KDE | package i+ | ibus-gtk | IBus im module for gtk2 | package i+ | ibus-gtk-32bit | IBus im module for gtk2 | package i+ | ibus-gtk3 | IBus im module for gtk3 | package i | ibus-lang | Translations for package ibus | package i+ | ibus-m17n | The M17N engine for IBus platform | package i+ | ibus-qt | Qt IBus library and Qt input method plugin | package i | libibus-1_0-5 | IBus libraries | package i+ | libibus-1_0-5-32bit | IBus libraries | package i+ | libusb-0_1-4 | libusb-1.0 Compatibility Library for libusb-0.1 | package i+ | libusb-1_0-0 | USB Library | package i+ | libusb-1_0-0-32bit | USB Library | package i+ | libusb-1_0-devel | USB Library | package i+ | libusb-compat-devel | libusb-1.0 Compatibility Layer for libusb-0.1 | package i+ | libusbmuxd4 | A client library to multiplex connections from and to iOS devices | package i | libustr-1_0-1 | String library, very low memory overhead, simple to import | package i+ | typelib-1_0-IBus-1_0 | IBus libraries -- Introspection bindings | package
The latter (ibus) basically "breaks" the automatic selection in that case, as it forces libreoffice to use the GNOME integration regardless of the desktop in use.
Personally I don't care at all about Gnome desktop (integration), but this looks like cross-dependency
I don't understand. What do you mean with "cross-dependency" here?
I interpreted gtk3 as highly connected to KDE and thus being required for KDE integration. My - probably wrong - idea was that removing libreoffice-gtk3 would break KDE integration and thus removing the Gnome integration would also break KDE integration. I am/was triggered to this subject, as I have by now quite a number of wrapper scripts and aliasses like % alias oo env SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gen XMODIFIERS="" ooffice !* & % cat bin/irc #!/bin/sh export LANG=en_US.UTF-8 export LC_ALL=$LANG export QT_IM_MODULE=xim export GTK_IM_MODULE=xim export XMODIFIERS= exec hexchat $@ &
Wolfgang
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Am Freitag, 23. Februar 2018, 14:20:03 schrieb H.Merijn Brand:
I interpreted gtk3 as highly connected to KDE and thus being required for KDE integration.
No. KDE's software/libraries are based on Qt since it's inception and never used GTK. Qt and GTK are completely independent toolkits. GNOME uses/depends on GTK(3) though.
My - probably wrong - idea was that removing libreoffice-gtk3 would break KDE integration and thus removing the Gnome integration would also break KDE integration.
Also, libreoffice's GNOME and KDE integrations are independent of each other. Maybe you were confused by the fact that libreoffice-kde4 had been dropped months ago (it's back meanwhile), and therefore libreoffice-gnome was also installed by default for KDE/Plasma...
I am/was triggered to this subject, as I have by now quite a number of wrapper scripts and aliasses like
% alias oo env SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gen XMODIFIERS="" ooffice !* &
Well, if you set SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN, you "disable" the automatic detection anyway. I'm not sure what effects (if any) OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP would have in this case though. Your zypper outputs do show that you have libreoffice-gnome/gtk3 and ibus installed though, so just running libreoffice normally (without manually setting such envvars) will use the GNOME integration currently regardless of the desktop, as I see it. IOW, if you uninstall ibus, you may be able to get rid of your wrapper scripts (except if you still want/need to set other envvars like XMODIFIERS of course, or use a different integration than libreoffice would select automatically). Kind Regards, Wolfgang -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Fri, 23 Feb 2018 15:22:08 +0100, Wolfgang Bauer
Am Freitag, 23. Februar 2018, 14:20:03 schrieb H.Merijn Brand:
I interpreted gtk3 as highly connected to KDE and thus being required for KDE integration.
No. KDE's software/libraries are based on Qt since it's inception and never used GTK. Qt and GTK are completely independent toolkits.
GNOME uses/depends on GTK(3) though.
My - probably wrong - idea was that removing libreoffice-gtk3 would break KDE integration and thus removing the Gnome integration would also break KDE integration.
Also, libreoffice's GNOME and KDE integrations are independent of each other.
Maybe you were confused by the fact that libreoffice-kde4 had been dropped months ago (it's back meanwhile), and therefore libreoffice-gnome was also installed by default for KDE/Plasma...
I am/was triggered to this subject, as I have by now quite a number of wrapper scripts and aliasses like
% alias oo env SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gen XMODIFIERS="" ooffice !* &
Well, if you set SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN, you "disable" the automatic detection anyway. I'm not sure what effects (if any) OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP would have in this case though.
Your zypper outputs do show that you have libreoffice-gnome/gtk3 and ibus installed though, so just running libreoffice normally (without manually setting such envvars) will use the GNOME integration currently regardless of the desktop, as I see it.
IOW, if you uninstall ibus, you may be able to get rid of your wrapper scripts (except if you still want/need to set other envvars like XMODIFIERS of course, or use a different integration than libreoffice would select automatically).
Wolfgang
Thanks for the explanation. I learned something again. -- H.Merijn Brand http://tux.nl Perl Monger http://amsterdam.pm.org/ using perl5.00307 .. 5.27 porting perl5 on HP-UX, AIX, and openSUSE http://mirrors.develooper.com/hpux/ http://www.test-smoke.org/ http://qa.perl.org http://www.goldmark.org/jeff/stupid-disclaimers/
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