[opensuse-factory] Coordinated upgrade to jack2 for FACTORY / 11.3
Hi, I got a contact from Debian Multimedia team about the possibility of coordinated upgrade of JACK package from version 1 to version 2 on SUSE. That is, major distros, Debian, Ubuntu, and others will upgrade the package for jack simultaneously in order to avoid confusion among distros. From the technical viewpoint, there shouldn't be big obstacles for us -- JACK2 is ABI compatible with JACK1, and it's being used already on Packman repo, IIRC. I think Dave already has managed jack2 stuff in his repo for some time, too. Thus the movement should be relatively simple. But, my question here is whether this is allowed now for FACTORY / 11.3 at this moment. I know this kind of thing should have been handled through FATE. But if we do this, it should be done quickly in a timely manner. So, I'm asking just here for a quick decision. Comments appreciated. thanks, Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 05/04/10 18:09, Takashi Iwai wrote:
Hi,
I got a contact from Debian Multimedia team about the possibility of coordinated upgrade of JACK package from version 1 to version 2 on SUSE. That is, major distros, Debian, Ubuntu, and others will upgrade the package for jack simultaneously in order to avoid confusion among distros.
From the technical viewpoint, there shouldn't be big obstacles for us -- JACK2 is ABI compatible with JACK1, and it's being used already on Packman repo, IIRC. I think Dave already has managed jack2 stuff in his repo for some time, too. Thus the movement should be relatively simple.
But, my question here is whether this is allowed now for FACTORY / 11.3 at this moment. I know this kind of thing should have been handled through FATE. But if we do this, it should be done quickly in a timely manner. So, I'm asking just here for a quick decision.
Comments appreciated.
thanks,
Takashi
One of my SDR programs (sdr-shell) has needed jack2 for quite a while now and I have been building and using it locally from svn using waf. Something in Milestone 4 causes it to fail, probably an option problem which I am currently trying to track down. I for one would welcome its inclusion. # jackd --version jackdmp 1.9.6 Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others. Copyright 2004-2009 Grame. jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details unknown driver parameter type 0 jackd: ../common/JackControlAPI.cpp:252: bool jackctl_add_driver_parameters(jackctl_driver*): Assertion `0' failed. Aborted Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 04/06/2010 03:49 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:
On 05/04/10 18:09, Takashi Iwai wrote:
Hi,
I got a contact from Debian Multimedia team about the possibility of coordinated upgrade of JACK package from version 1 to version 2 on SUSE. That is, major distros, Debian, Ubuntu, and others will upgrade the package for jack simultaneously in order to avoid confusion among distros.
From the technical viewpoint, there shouldn't be big obstacles for us -- JACK2 is ABI compatible with JACK1, and it's being used already on Packman repo, IIRC. I think Dave already has managed jack2 stuff in his repo for some time, too. Thus the movement should be relatively simple.
But, my question here is whether this is allowed now for FACTORY / 11.3 at this moment. I know this kind of thing should have been handled through FATE. But if we do this, it should be done quickly in a timely manner. So, I'm asking just here for a quick decision.
Comments appreciated.
thanks,
Takashi
One of my SDR programs (sdr-shell) has needed jack2 for quite a while now and I have been building and using it locally from svn using waf. Something in Milestone 4 causes it to fail, probably an option problem which I am currently trying to track down. I for one would welcome its inclusion. # jackd --version
snip Aborted Regards Sid.
I have a fully functional jack2 ready for submission it's a drop in replacement for the existing jack. I was originally going to submit it as an update for jack but I've put it in multimedia:libs. There's a "|shared-lib-calls-exit" rpmlint error I must fix before submission to factory. Regards Dave P | -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
At Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:22:47 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:
On 04/06/2010 03:49 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:
On 05/04/10 18:09, Takashi Iwai wrote:
Hi,
I got a contact from Debian Multimedia team about the possibility of coordinated upgrade of JACK package from version 1 to version 2 on SUSE. That is, major distros, Debian, Ubuntu, and others will upgrade the package for jack simultaneously in order to avoid confusion among distros.
From the technical viewpoint, there shouldn't be big obstacles for us -- JACK2 is ABI compatible with JACK1, and it's being used already on Packman repo, IIRC. I think Dave already has managed jack2 stuff in his repo for some time, too. Thus the movement should be relatively simple.
But, my question here is whether this is allowed now for FACTORY / 11.3 at this moment. I know this kind of thing should have been handled through FATE. But if we do this, it should be done quickly in a timely manner. So, I'm asking just here for a quick decision.
Comments appreciated.
thanks,
Takashi
One of my SDR programs (sdr-shell) has needed jack2 for quite a while now and I have been building and using it locally from svn using waf. Something in Milestone 4 causes it to fail, probably an option problem which I am currently trying to track down. I for one would welcome its inclusion. # jackd --version
snip Aborted Regards Sid.
I have a fully functional jack2 ready for submission it's a drop in replacement for the existing jack. I was originally going to submit it as an update for jack but I've put it in multimedia:libs. There's a "|shared-lib-calls-exit" rpmlint error I must fix before submission to factory.
Thanks. I just took a quick look. One thing to be fixed is the package name. It should be rather libjack0 instead of libjack2. The shlib package name is defined simply from the so version number. For devel, keep libjack-devel. Since JACK1 and JACK2 are exclusive, there is no big reason to keep both devel packages parallel installable. Could you fix these? Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 04/06/2010 08:21 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:22:47 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:
On 04/06/2010 03:49 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:
On 05/04/10 18:09, Takashi Iwai wrote:
Hi,
I got a contact from Debian Multimedia team about the possibility of coordinated upgrade of JACK package from version 1 to version 2 on SUSE. That is, major distros, Debian, Ubuntu, and others will upgrade the package for jack simultaneously in order to avoid confusion among distros.
From the technical viewpoint, there shouldn't be big obstacles for us -- JACK2 is ABI compatible with JACK1, and it's being used already on Packman repo, IIRC. I think Dave already has managed jack2 stuff in his repo for some time, too. Thus the movement should be relatively simple.
But, my question here is whether this is allowed now for FACTORY / 11.3 at this moment. I know this kind of thing should have been handled through FATE. But if we do this, it should be done quickly in a timely manner. So, I'm asking just here for a quick decision.
Comments appreciated.
thanks,
Takashi
One of my SDR programs (sdr-shell) has needed jack2 for quite a while now and I have been building and using it locally from svn using waf. Something in Milestone 4 causes it to fail, probably an option problem which I am currently trying to track down. I for one would welcome its inclusion. # jackd --version
snip Aborted Regards Sid.
I have a fully functional jack2 ready for submission it's a drop in replacement for the existing jack. I was originally going to submit it as an update for jack but I've put it in multimedia:libs. There's a "|shared-lib-calls-exit" rpmlint error I must fix before submission to factory.
Thanks.
I just took a quick look. One thing to be fixed is the package name. It should be rather libjack0 instead of libjack2. The shlib package name is defined simply from the so version number.
For devel, keep libjack-devel. Since JACK1 and JACK2 are exclusive, there is no big reason to keep both devel packages parallel installable.
Could you fix these?
Takashi
Jack2 cleanly replaces the jack package with provides and obsoletes because they cannot exist together. Jack2 provides exactly the same functions and binaries as jack plus libjackserver this is why it's also an update candidate for the existing jack, the tarball is even called plain jack. I'm preparing my home project jack2 to update jack if this is the way to go. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
At Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:58:23 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:
On 04/06/2010 08:21 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:22:47 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:
On 04/06/2010 03:49 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:
On 05/04/10 18:09, Takashi Iwai wrote:
Hi,
I got a contact from Debian Multimedia team about the possibility of coordinated upgrade of JACK package from version 1 to version 2 on SUSE. That is, major distros, Debian, Ubuntu, and others will upgrade the package for jack simultaneously in order to avoid confusion among distros.
From the technical viewpoint, there shouldn't be big obstacles for us -- JACK2 is ABI compatible with JACK1, and it's being used already on Packman repo, IIRC. I think Dave already has managed jack2 stuff in his repo for some time, too. Thus the movement should be relatively simple.
But, my question here is whether this is allowed now for FACTORY / 11.3 at this moment. I know this kind of thing should have been handled through FATE. But if we do this, it should be done quickly in a timely manner. So, I'm asking just here for a quick decision.
Comments appreciated.
thanks,
Takashi
One of my SDR programs (sdr-shell) has needed jack2 for quite a while now and I have been building and using it locally from svn using waf. Something in Milestone 4 causes it to fail, probably an option problem which I am currently trying to track down. I for one would welcome its inclusion. # jackd --version
snip Aborted Regards Sid.
I have a fully functional jack2 ready for submission it's a drop in replacement for the existing jack. I was originally going to submit it as an update for jack but I've put it in multimedia:libs. There's a "|shared-lib-calls-exit" rpmlint error I must fix before submission to factory.
Thanks.
I just took a quick look. One thing to be fixed is the package name. It should be rather libjack0 instead of libjack2. The shlib package name is defined simply from the so version number.
For devel, keep libjack-devel. Since JACK1 and JACK2 are exclusive, there is no big reason to keep both devel packages parallel installable.
Could you fix these?
Takashi
Jack2 cleanly replaces the jack package with provides and obsoletes because they cannot exist together. Jack2 provides exactly the same functions and binaries as jack plus libjackserver this is why it's also an update candidate for the existing jack, the tarball is even called plain jack. I'm preparing my home project jack2 to update jack if this is the way to go.
I submitted the updated jack-1.9.5 to FACTORY now. Takashi -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 08/04/10 16:28, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:58:23 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:
On 04/06/2010 08:21 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:22:47 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:
On 04/06/2010 03:49 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:
On 05/04/10 18:09, Takashi Iwai wrote:
Hi,
I got a contact from Debian Multimedia team about the possibility of coordinated upgrade of JACK package from version 1 to version 2 on SUSE. That is, major distros, Debian, Ubuntu, and others will upgrade the package for jack simultaneously in order to avoid confusion among distros.
From the technical viewpoint, there shouldn't be big obstacles for us -- JACK2 is ABI compatible with JACK1, and it's being used already on Packman repo, IIRC. I think Dave already has managed jack2 stuff in his repo for some time, too. Thus the movement should be relatively simple.
But, my question here is whether this is allowed now for FACTORY / 11.3 at this moment. I know this kind of thing should have been handled through FATE. But if we do this, it should be done quickly in a timely manner. So, I'm asking just here for a quick decision.
Comments appreciated.
thanks,
Takashi
One of my SDR programs (sdr-shell) has needed jack2 for quite a while now and I have been building and using it locally from svn using waf. Something in Milestone 4 causes it to fail, probably an option problem which I am currently trying to track down. I for one would welcome its inclusion. # jackd --version
snip Aborted Regards Sid.
I have a fully functional jack2 ready for submission it's a drop in replacement for the existing jack. I was originally going to submit it as an update for jack but I've put it in multimedia:libs. There's a "|shared-lib-calls-exit" rpmlint error I must fix before submission to factory.
Thanks.
I just took a quick look. One thing to be fixed is the package name. It should be rather libjack0 instead of libjack2. The shlib package name is defined simply from the so version number.
For devel, keep libjack-devel. Since JACK1 and JACK2 are exclusive, there is no big reason to keep both devel packages parallel installable.
Could you fix these?
Takashi
Jack2 cleanly replaces the jack package with provides and obsoletes because they cannot exist together. Jack2 provides exactly the same functions and binaries as jack plus libjackserver this is why it's also an update candidate for the existing jack, the tarball is even called plain jack. I'm preparing my home project jack2 to update jack if this is the way to go.
I submitted the updated jack-1.9.5 to FACTORY now.
Takashi It's not showed up so far, will check again later. Regards Sid.
-- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 08 April 2010 20:15:59 Sid Boyce wrote:
[...] It's not showed up so far, will check again later.
osc sr show 37393 gives you the status. Every submission needs review and that will take some time - especially since we currently wait for Milestone 5 to finish, Adreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
On 04/08/2010 08:15 PM, Sid Boyce wrote:
On 08/04/10 16:28, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:58:23 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:
On 04/06/2010 08:21 AM, Takashi Iwai wrote:
At Tue, 06 Apr 2010 07:22:47 +0200, Dave Plater wrote:
On 04/06/2010 03:49 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:
On 05/04/10 18:09, Takashi Iwai wrote:
> Hi, > > I got a contact from Debian Multimedia team about the possibility of > coordinated upgrade of JACK package from version 1 to version 2 on > SUSE. That is, major distros, Debian, Ubuntu, and others will upgrade > the package for jack simultaneously in order to avoid confusion among > distros. > > From the technical viewpoint, there shouldn't be big obstacles for > us -- JACK2 is ABI compatible with JACK1, and it's being used already > on Packman repo, IIRC. I think Dave already has managed jack2 stuff > in his repo for some time, too. Thus the movement should be > relatively simple. > > But, my question here is whether this is allowed now for FACTORY / > 11.3 at this moment. I know this kind of thing should have been > handled through FATE. But if we do this, it should be done quickly in > a timely manner. So, I'm asking just here for a quick decision. > > Comments appreciated. > > > thanks, > > Takashi > > > One of my SDR programs (sdr-shell) has needed jack2 for quite a while now and I have been building and using it locally from svn using waf. Something in Milestone 4 causes it to fail, probably an option problem which I am currently trying to track down. I for one would welcome its inclusion. # jackd --version
snip Aborted Regards Sid.
I have a fully functional jack2 ready for submission it's a drop in replacement for the existing jack. I was originally going to submit it as an update for jack but I've put it in multimedia:libs. There's a "|shared-lib-calls-exit" rpmlint error I must fix before submission to factory.
Thanks.
I just took a quick look. One thing to be fixed is the package name. It should be rather libjack0 instead of libjack2. The shlib package name is defined simply from the so version number.
For devel, keep libjack-devel. Since JACK1 and JACK2 are exclusive, there is no big reason to keep both devel packages parallel installable.
Could you fix these?
Takashi
Jack2 cleanly replaces the jack package with provides and obsoletes because they cannot exist together. Jack2 provides exactly the same functions and binaries as jack plus libjackserver this is why it's also an update candidate for the existing jack, the tarball is even called plain jack. I'm preparing my home project jack2 to update jack if this is the way to go.
I submitted the updated jack-1.9.5 to FACTORY now.
Takashi
It's not showed up so far, will check again later. Regards Sid.
It;s still waiting sr 37393 created 2010-04-08T17:25:39 but you can get it in the multimedia:libs repo meanwhile, exactly the same build as factory standard.. Regards Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 04/06/2010 03:49 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:
On 05/04/10 18:09, Takashi Iwai wrote:
Hi,
I got a contact from Debian Multimedia team about the possibility of coordinated upgrade of JACK package from version 1 to version 2 on SUSE. That is, major distros, Debian, Ubuntu, and others will upgrade the package for jack simultaneously in order to avoid confusion among distros.
From the technical viewpoint, there shouldn't be big obstacles for us -- JACK2 is ABI compatible with JACK1, and it's being used already on Packman repo, IIRC. I think Dave already has managed jack2 stuff in his repo for some time, too. Thus the movement should be relatively simple.
But, my question here is whether this is allowed now for FACTORY / 11.3 at this moment. I know this kind of thing should have been handled through FATE. But if we do this, it should be done quickly in a timely manner. So, I'm asking just here for a quick decision.
Comments appreciated.
thanks,
Takashi
One of my SDR programs (sdr-shell) has needed jack2 for quite a while now and I have been building and using it locally from svn using waf. Something in Milestone 4 causes it to fail, probably an option problem which I am currently trying to track down. I for one would welcome its inclusion. # jackd --version
jackdmp 1.9.6
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2009 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
unknown driver parameter type 0
jackd: ../common/JackControlAPI.cpp:252: bool jackctl_add_driver_parameters(jackctl_driver*): Assertion `0' failed.
Aborted Regards Sid.
Sid, if jack is simply updated to jack-1.9.5 which is the jack2 branch would this be what you need? Can you try the multimedia:libs jack2,. Thanks Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 06/04/10 10:14, Dave Plater wrote:
On 04/06/2010 03:49 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:
On 05/04/10 18:09, Takashi Iwai wrote:
Hi,
I got a contact from Debian Multimedia team about the possibility of coordinated upgrade of JACK package from version 1 to version 2 on SUSE. That is, major distros, Debian, Ubuntu, and others will upgrade the package for jack simultaneously in order to avoid confusion among distros.
From the technical viewpoint, there shouldn't be big obstacles for us -- JACK2 is ABI compatible with JACK1, and it's being used already on Packman repo, IIRC. I think Dave already has managed jack2 stuff in his repo for some time, too. Thus the movement should be relatively simple.
But, my question here is whether this is allowed now for FACTORY / 11.3 at this moment. I know this kind of thing should have been handled through FATE. But if we do this, it should be done quickly in a timely manner. So, I'm asking just here for a quick decision.
Comments appreciated.
thanks,
Takashi
One of my SDR programs (sdr-shell) has needed jack2 for quite a while now and I have been building and using it locally from svn using waf. Something in Milestone 4 causes it to fail, probably an option problem which I am currently trying to track down. I for one would welcome its inclusion. # jackd --version
jackdmp 1.9.6
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2009 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
unknown driver parameter type 0
jackd: ../common/JackControlAPI.cpp:252: bool jackctl_add_driver_parameters(jackctl_driver*): Assertion `0' failed.
Aborted Regards Sid.
Sid, if jack is simply updated to jack-1.9.5 which is the jack2 branch would this be what you need? Can you try the multimedia:libs jack2,. Thanks Dave P
Thanks, I shall give it a try. I just did a waf install of 1.9.5 and it works, so the one from the repo should work. Looks like the problem is in 1.9.6. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On 04/06/2010 01:52 PM, Sid Boyce wrote:
On 06/04/10 10:14, Dave Plater wrote:
On 04/06/2010 03:49 AM, Sid Boyce wrote:
On 05/04/10 18:09, Takashi Iwai wrote:
Hi,
I got a contact from Debian Multimedia team about the possibility of coordinated upgrade of JACK package from version 1 to version 2 on SUSE. That is, major distros, Debian, Ubuntu, and others will upgrade the package for jack simultaneously in order to avoid confusion among distros.
From the technical viewpoint, there shouldn't be big obstacles for us -- JACK2 is ABI compatible with JACK1, and it's being used already on Packman repo, IIRC. I think Dave already has managed jack2 stuff in his repo for some time, too. Thus the movement should be relatively simple.
But, my question here is whether this is allowed now for FACTORY / 11.3 at this moment. I know this kind of thing should have been handled through FATE. But if we do this, it should be done quickly in a timely manner. So, I'm asking just here for a quick decision.
Comments appreciated.
thanks,
Takashi
One of my SDR programs (sdr-shell) has needed jack2 for quite a while now and I have been building and using it locally from svn using waf. Something in Milestone 4 causes it to fail, probably an option problem which I am currently trying to track down. I for one would welcome its inclusion. # jackd --version
jackdmp 1.9.6
Copyright 2001-2005 Paul Davis and others.
Copyright 2004-2009 Grame.
jackdmp comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY
This is free software, and you are welcome to redistribute it
under certain conditions; see the file COPYING for details
unknown driver parameter type 0
jackd: ../common/JackControlAPI.cpp:252: bool jackctl_add_driver_parameters(jackctl_driver*): Assertion `0' failed.
Aborted Regards Sid.
Sid, if jack is simply updated to jack-1.9.5 which is the jack2 branch would this be what you need? Can you try the multimedia:libs jack2,. Thanks Dave P
Thanks, I shall give it a try. I just did a waf install of 1.9.5 and it works, so the one from the repo should work. Looks like the problem is in 1.9.6. Regards Sid.
1.9.5 is the released version. Dave P -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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