[opensuse-factory] openSUSE Tumbleweed status for the week of March 26, 2012

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Greg KH

26 Mar 2012 26 Mar '12

20:47

It's been about a year since I did a status report of what's going on in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repo, let me know if you find this actually useful or not so that I can determine if I should keep it up. - As everyone knows, Tumbleweed is running on top of openSUSE:12.1, the transition to 12.1 was rocky for some people who thought that Tumbleweed was somehow a "full" distro, and not just an add-on on top of a stable openSUSE release. To make things easier for future updates of the base openSUSE release, please point to the "current" repo, not the explicitly numbers repo. For more details how to do this, see the Tumbleweed wiki page[1]. - kernel 3.3.0 is in Tumbleweed, and seems to be working well so far. - KDE 4.8 is now in Tumbleweed, be careful if you previously had added the KDE repo manually to your system, you should now remove it as I have no idea how well it will interact with this. - Because of the KDE 4.8 update, LibreOffice was dropped from Tumbleweed. This is due to build issues with the package, not any runtime issue that I can determine. LibreOffice fails to build on Factory at the moment as well, and a bug is open about this, hopefully it gets resolved soon. - XFCE has been updated in Tumbleweed to the latest version - vim finally showed up, after a brief breakage that I caused, sorry about that, all should be good now. - To preempt any questions about a GNOME update in Tumbleweed, I am looking into it, but it will not happen until it stabilizes in Factory first. As always, if anyone knows of any packages they wish to see added to Tumbleweed, please let me know. thanks, greg k-h [1] http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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Patrick Shanahan

27 Mar 27 Mar

02:52

* Greg KH [03-26-12 16:50]:

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It's been about a year since I did a status report of what's going on in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repo, let me know if you find this actually useful or not so that I can determine if I should keep it up.

Always welcome and appreciated. Information is enlightment.

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As always, if anyone knows of any packages they wish to see added to Tumbleweed, please let me know.

There is a wireless ath5k problem with kernel-desktop-3.3.0-16.1.x86_64. ath5k phy0: gain calibration timeout (2412MHz looses wireless connection. Requires reboot! no bug report but discussion in this forum. problem surfaced in 12.2ms2 but I now see it in tumbleweed on an Acer 5220 laptop bugreport ?? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg KH

16:11

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:52:14PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Greg KH [03-26-12 16:50]:

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It's been about a year since I did a status report of what's going on in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repo, let me know if you find this actually useful or not so that I can determine if I should keep it up.

Always welcome and appreciated. Information is enlightment.

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As always, if anyone knows of any packages they wish to see added to Tumbleweed, please let me know.

There is a wireless ath5k problem with kernel-desktop-3.3.0-16.1.x86_64. ath5k phy0: gain calibration timeout (2412MHz looses wireless connection. Requires reboot! no bug report but discussion in this forum.

problem surfaced in 12.2ms2 but I now see it in tumbleweed on an Acer 5220 laptop

bugreport ??

Please file a bug. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

18:35

* Greg KH [03-27-12 12:12]:

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On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:52:14PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Greg KH [03-26-12 16:50]:

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It's been about a year since I did a status report of what's going on in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repo, let me know if you find this actually useful or not so that I can determine if I should keep it up.

Always welcome and appreciated. Information is enlightment.

...
As always, if anyone knows of any packages they wish to see added to Tumbleweed, please let me know.

There is a wireless ath5k problem with kernel-desktop-3.3.0-16.1.x86_64. ath5k phy0: gain calibration timeout (2412MHz looses wireless connection. Requires reboot! no bug report but discussion in this forum.

problem surfaced in 12.2ms2 but I now see it in tumbleweed on an Acer 5220 laptop

bugreport ??

Please file a bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754360 tried to assign it to you but your email addrs are not recognized ... tks, -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg KH

18:49

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 02:35:46PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Greg KH [03-27-12 12:12]:

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On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:52:14PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Greg KH [03-26-12 16:50]:

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It's been about a year since I did a status report of what's going on in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repo, let me know if you find this actually useful or not so that I can determine if I should keep it up.

Always welcome and appreciated. Information is enlightment.

...
As always, if anyone knows of any packages they wish to see added to Tumbleweed, please let me know.

There is a wireless ath5k problem with kernel-desktop-3.3.0-16.1.x86_64. ath5k phy0: gain calibration timeout (2412MHz looses wireless connection. Requires reboot! no bug report but discussion in this forum.

problem surfaced in 12.2ms2 but I now see it in tumbleweed on an Acer 5220 laptop

bugreport ??

Please file a bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754360

Thanks, hopefully it will get taken care of. greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg KH

18:49

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 02:35:46PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Greg KH [03-27-12 12:12]:

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On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 10:52:14PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Greg KH [03-26-12 16:50]:

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It's been about a year since I did a status report of what's going on in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repo, let me know if you find this actually useful or not so that I can determine if I should keep it up.

Always welcome and appreciated. Information is enlightment.

...
As always, if anyone knows of any packages they wish to see added to Tumbleweed, please let me know.

There is a wireless ath5k problem with kernel-desktop-3.3.0-16.1.x86_64. ath5k phy0: gain calibration timeout (2412MHz looses wireless connection. Requires reboot! no bug report but discussion in this forum.

problem surfaced in 12.2ms2 but I now see it in tumbleweed on an Acer 5220 laptop

bugreport ??

Please file a bug.

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754360

Thanks, hopefully it will get taken care of. greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

06:46

Le lundi 26 mars 2012, à 13:47 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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- To preempt any questions about a GNOME update in Tumbleweed, I am looking into it, but it will not happen until it stabilizes in Factory first.

Note that it would be possible to include GNOME 3.2, from GNOME:STABLE:3.2. There might be some more work for 3.4 as we only focused on integration for Factory until now. Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg KH

16:13

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 08:46:49AM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Le lundi 26 mars 2012, à 13:47 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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- To preempt any questions about a GNOME update in Tumbleweed, I am looking into it, but it will not happen until it stabilizes in Factory first.

Note that it would be possible to include GNOME 3.2, from GNOME:STABLE:3.2. There might be some more work for 3.4 as we only focused on integration for Factory until now.

Ah, I thought we already had GNOME 3.2 in the 12.1 release, that's why I didn't look into doing this already. If this isn't the case, I'll start with the 3.2 integration now. And I'm guessing that there will be a GNOME:STABLE:3.4 eventually after the Factory integration is completed? thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

17:02

Le mardi 27 mars 2012, à 09:13 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 08:46:49AM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Le lundi 26 mars 2012, à 13:47 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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- To preempt any questions about a GNOME update in Tumbleweed, I am looking into it, but it will not happen until it stabilizes in Factory first.

Note that it would be possible to include GNOME 3.2, from GNOME:STABLE:3.2. There might be some more work for 3.4 as we only focused on integration for Factory until now.

Ah, I thought we already had GNOME 3.2 in the 12.1 release, that's why I didn't look into doing this already.

If this isn't the case, I'll start with the 3.2 integration now.

Doh, of course we have GNOME 3.2 in 12.1, my bad. That being said, we have some newer releases in G:S:3.2.

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And I'm guessing that there will be a GNOME:STABLE:3.4 eventually after the Factory integration is completed?

Yes, we'll likely do this, but this will need some work to build on 12.1, I guess. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg KH

17:20

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:02:14PM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Le mardi 27 mars 2012, à 09:13 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 08:46:49AM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Le lundi 26 mars 2012, à 13:47 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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- To preempt any questions about a GNOME update in Tumbleweed, I am looking into it, but it will not happen until it stabilizes in Factory first.

Note that it would be possible to include GNOME 3.2, from GNOME:STABLE:3.2. There might be some more work for 3.4 as we only focused on integration for Factory until now.

Ah, I thought we already had GNOME 3.2 in the 12.1 release, that's why I didn't look into doing this already.

If this isn't the case, I'll start with the 3.2 integration now.

Doh, of course we have GNOME 3.2 in 12.1, my bad. That being said, we have some newer releases in G:S:3.2.

Any hints as to which packages they could be? I randomly looked at about ten and didn't find any.

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And I'm guessing that there will be a GNOME:STABLE:3.4 eventually after the Factory integration is completed?

Yes, we'll likely do this, but this will need some work to build on 12.1, I guess.

What would the problem be here, base libraries being too old? Anyway, I'll hold off on any Gnome updates until Factory settles down. If you feel I should start working on this, please let me know. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

17:59

Le mardi 27 mars 2012, à 10:20 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:02:14PM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Le mardi 27 mars 2012, à 09:13 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 08:46:49AM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Le lundi 26 mars 2012, à 13:47 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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- To preempt any questions about a GNOME update in Tumbleweed, I am looking into it, but it will not happen until it stabilizes in Factory first.

Note that it would be possible to include GNOME 3.2, from GNOME:STABLE:3.2. There might be some more work for 3.4 as we only focused on integration for Factory until now.

Ah, I thought we already had GNOME 3.2 in the 12.1 release, that's why I didn't look into doing this already.

If this isn't the case, I'll start with the 3.2 integration now.

Doh, of course we have GNOME 3.2 in 12.1, my bad. That being said, we have some newer releases in G:S:3.2.

Any hints as to which packages they could be? I randomly looked at about ten and didn't find any.

We pushed some as updates to 12.1 (including gnome-shell), but there are several packages with updates. For instance, glib2, gtk3, gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-control-center, eog, empathy, cheese, clutter, file-roller, etc. I can try to build a full list if you want.

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And I'm guessing that there will be a GNOME:STABLE:3.4 eventually after the Factory integration is completed?

Yes, we'll likely do this, but this will need some work to build on 12.1, I guess.

What would the problem be here, base libraries being too old?

Yeah, there might be some issues with base libraries, but also some packaging changes needed (as things might not build fine with the rpm package from 12.1, for instance).

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Anyway, I'll hold off on any Gnome updates until Factory settles down. If you feel I should start working on this, please let me know.

Nah, there's no point in abusing your time with the packages from Factory, until we have a G:S:3.4. Thanks, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg KH

18:10

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:59:07PM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Le mardi 27 mars 2012, à 10:20 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:02:14PM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Le mardi 27 mars 2012, à 09:13 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 08:46:49AM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Le lundi 26 mars 2012, à 13:47 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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- To preempt any questions about a GNOME update in Tumbleweed, I am looking into it, but it will not happen until it stabilizes in Factory first.

Note that it would be possible to include GNOME 3.2, from GNOME:STABLE:3.2. There might be some more work for 3.4 as we only focused on integration for Factory until now.

Ah, I thought we already had GNOME 3.2 in the 12.1 release, that's why I didn't look into doing this already.

If this isn't the case, I'll start with the 3.2 integration now.

Doh, of course we have GNOME 3.2 in 12.1, my bad. That being said, we have some newer releases in G:S:3.2.

Any hints as to which packages they could be? I randomly looked at about ten and didn't find any.

We pushed some as updates to 12.1 (including gnome-shell), but there are several packages with updates. For instance, glib2, gtk3, gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-control-center, eog, empathy, cheese, clutter, file-roller, etc.

I can try to build a full list if you want.

If you can, that would be great. Otherwise I can go through all 226 packages by hand and figure it out... thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

18:56

Le mardi 27 mars 2012, à 11:10 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:59:07PM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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We pushed some as updates to 12.1 (including gnome-shell), but there are several packages with updates. For instance, glib2, gtk3, gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-control-center, eog, empathy, cheese, clutter, file-roller, etc.

I can try to build a full list if you want.

If you can, that would be great. Otherwise I can go through all 226 packages by hand and figure it out...

As far as I can tell, that's the full list (much smaller than what I expected; or my osc/sed hacks failed in some cases): aisleriot atkmm cheese clutter clutter-gst empathy eog file-roller folks gconf2 gjs glib2 gnome-control-center gnome-keyring gnome-nettool gnome-settings-daemon gnome-user-docs gtk3 gucharmap libchamplain libgnome-keyring librsvg orca pangomm rygel seahorse vino Of those, the ones with interesting changes are: cheese clutter clutter-gst empathy folks gconf2 gjs glib2 gnome-control-center gnome-keyring gnome-nettool gnome-settings-daemon gtk3 libchamplain libgnome-keyring librsvg orca rygel seahorse There's also the evolution stack, but it's going to be pushed as a maintenance update soon: evolution evolution-data-server evolution-ews evolution-groupwise gtkhtml Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg KH

28 Mar 28 Mar

22:30

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 08:56:59PM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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Le mardi 27 mars 2012, à 11:10 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 07:59:07PM +0200, Vincent Untz wrote:

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We pushed some as updates to 12.1 (including gnome-shell), but there are several packages with updates. For instance, glib2, gtk3, gnome-settings-daemon, gnome-control-center, eog, empathy, cheese, clutter, file-roller, etc.

I can try to build a full list if you want.

If you can, that would be great. Otherwise I can go through all 226 packages by hand and figure it out...

As far as I can tell, that's the full list (much smaller than what I expected; or my osc/sed hacks failed in some cases):

aisleriot atkmm cheese clutter clutter-gst empathy eog file-roller folks gconf2 gjs glib2 gnome-control-center gnome-keyring gnome-nettool gnome-settings-daemon gnome-user-docs gtk3 gucharmap libchamplain libgnome-keyring librsvg orca pangomm rygel seahorse vino

Of those, the ones with interesting changes are:

cheese clutter clutter-gst empathy folks gconf2 gjs glib2 gnome-control-center gnome-keyring gnome-nettool gnome-settings-daemon gtk3 libchamplain libgnome-keyring librsvg orca rygel seahorse

Wonderful, I've added all of these as they pass my testing in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed:Testing repo.

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There's also the evolution stack, but it's going to be pushed as a

maintenance update soon: evolution evolution-data-server evolution-ews evolution-groupwise gtkhtml

Ok, I'll leave those alone. If there are other GNOME stable updates that happen, if you remember, could you drop me a message so I could know to pick them up? thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Vincent Untz

29 Mar 29 Mar

06:02

Le mercredi 28 mars 2012, à 15:30 -0700, Greg KH a écrit :

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If there are other GNOME stable updates that happen, if you remember, could you drop me a message so I could know to pick them up?

Sure thing. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Freigeist

27 Mar 27 Mar

09:56

Am 26.03.2012 22:47, schrieb Greg KH:

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It's been about a year since I did a status report of what's going on in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repo, let me know if you find this actually useful or not so that I can determine if I should keep it up.

Very much appreciated. Thanks for the info and keep up the good work and the info coming, please. FYI: I have been using Tumbleweed for about a year now and everything has been going smooth and fine for me so far. Nothing to complain :-) Best regards, Andreas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

John Andrews (swerdna)

10:30

On 03/27/2012 06:47 AM, Greg KH wrote:

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It's been about a year since I did a status report of what's going on in the openSUSE:Tumbleweed repo, let me know if you find this actually useful or not so that I can determine if I should keep it up.

- As everyone knows, Tumbleweed is running on top of openSUSE:12.1, the transition to 12.1 was rocky for some people who thought that Tumbleweed was somehow a "full" distro, and not just an add-on on top of a stable openSUSE release. To make things easier for future updates of the base openSUSE release, please point to the "current" repo, not the explicitly numbers repo. For more details how to do this, see the Tumbleweed wiki page[1]. - kernel 3.3.0 is in Tumbleweed, and seems to be working well so far. - KDE 4.8 is now in Tumbleweed, be careful if you previously had added the KDE repo manually to your system, you should now remove it as I have no idea how well it will interact with this. - Because of the KDE 4.8 update, LibreOffice was dropped from Tumbleweed. This is due to build issues with the package, not any runtime issue that I can determine. LibreOffice fails to build on Factory at the moment as well, and a bug is open about this, hopefully it gets resolved soon. - XFCE has been updated in Tumbleweed to the latest version - vim finally showed up, after a brief breakage that I caused, sorry about that, all should be good now. - To preempt any questions about a GNOME update in Tumbleweed, I am looking into it, but it will not happen until it stabilizes in Factory first.

As always, if anyone knows of any packages they wish to see added to Tumbleweed, please let me know.

thanks,

greg k-h

[1] http://en.opensuse.org/Tumbleweed Thanks for the update. Please keep it going if you can.

Regards John Andrews -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

14:08

On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Greg KH wrote:

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- Because of the KDE 4.8 update, LibreOffice was dropped from Tumbleweed. This is due to build issues with the package, not any runtime issue that I can determine. LibreOffice fails to build on

I switched from Tumbleweed to 12.1 when it came out. The above makes me happy about my choice. I personally think 12.1 packages should have been retained until the LibreOffice issue was resolved. Greg (not KH) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg KH

16:14

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:08:17AM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Greg KH wrote:

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- Because of the KDE 4.8 update, LibreOffice was dropped from Tumbleweed. This is due to build issues with the package, not any runtime issue that I can determine. LibreOffice fails to build on

I switched from Tumbleweed to 12.1 when it came out. The above makes me happy about my choice.

I personally think 12.1 packages should have been retained until the LibreOffice issue was resolved.

As the LibreOffice package really wasn't that far "ahead" than the 12.1 release, I figure that this was only a minor setback and one that I didn't want to wait anymore time on getting merged in, given how long it took me to get it all working properly. Hopefully the LibreOffice fix will happen soon, and then the new LibreOffice package will show up in their tree, as it would be nice to be using 3.5 sometime soon. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg Freemyer

21:36

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Greg KH wrote:

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:08:17AM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Greg KH wrote:

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- Because of the KDE 4.8 update, LibreOffice was dropped from Tumbleweed. This is due to build issues with the package, not any runtime issue that I can determine. LibreOffice fails to build on

I switched from Tumbleweed to 12.1 when it came out. The above makes me happy about my choice.

I personally think 12.1 packages should have been retained until the LibreOffice issue was resolved.

As the LibreOffice package really wasn't that far "ahead" than the 12.1 release, I figure that this was only a minor setback and one that I didn't want to wait anymore time on getting merged in, given how long it took me to get it all working properly.

Hopefully the LibreOffice fix will happen soon, and then the new LibreOffice package will show up in their tree, as it would be nice to be using 3.5 sometime soon.

thanks,

greg k-h

Greg, Maybe I misinterpreted the status. I took it to say, "due to LibreOffice / KDE 4.8 incompatibility, Tumbleweed users don't have LibreOffice functionality." If you just meant, Tumbleweed users only have LibreOffice functionality as exists in 12.1, I rescind my comment. Greg -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg KH

22:34

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 05:36:56PM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 12:14 PM, Greg KH wrote:

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:08:17AM -0400, Greg Freemyer wrote:

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On Mon, Mar 26, 2012 at 4:47 PM, Greg KH wrote:

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- Because of the KDE 4.8 update, LibreOffice was dropped from Tumbleweed. This is due to build issues with the package, not any runtime issue that I can determine. LibreOffice fails to build on

I switched from Tumbleweed to 12.1 when it came out. The above makes me happy about my choice.

I personally think 12.1 packages should have been retained until the LibreOffice issue was resolved.

As the LibreOffice package really wasn't that far "ahead" than the 12.1 release, I figure that this was only a minor setback and one that I didn't want to wait anymore time on getting merged in, given how long it took me to get it all working properly.

Hopefully the LibreOffice fix will happen soon, and then the new LibreOffice package will show up in their tree, as it would be nice to be using 3.5 sometime soon.

thanks,

greg k-h

Greg,

Maybe I misinterpreted the status. I took it to say,

"due to LibreOffice / KDE 4.8 incompatibility, Tumbleweed users don't have LibreOffice functionality."

If you just meant, Tumbleweed users only have LibreOffice functionality as exists in 12.1, I rescind my comment.

Yes, that is the case, LibreOffice just downgraded to the known-good version that ships in 12.1. greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

28 Mar 28 Mar

02:17

Upgrading to kde 4.8.1 required: The following packages are going to be downgraded: kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE 12.1-55.52.1 -> 12.1-2.1 kdelibs4-branding-openSUSE 12.1-15.3.9 -> 12.1-2.1 kdm-branding-openSUSE 12.1-15.3.9 -> 12.1-2.1 libqca2 2.0.3-3.1.2 -> 2.0.3-1.1 -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg KH

15:01

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:17:02PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Upgrading to kde 4.8.1 required:

The following packages are going to be downgraded: kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE 12.1-55.52.1 -> 12.1-2.1 kdelibs4-branding-openSUSE 12.1-15.3.9 -> 12.1-2.1 kdm-branding-openSUSE 12.1-15.3.9 -> 12.1-2.1 libqca2 2.0.3-3.1.2 -> 2.0.3-1.1

Is that a problem? It's due to the "fun" issue that osc doesn't copy over the Release field for packages, so, if you update the package, but don't bump the version number, things like this can happen. I had to change the way the vim package handled its version number for this very issue. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Patrick Shanahan

15:16

* Greg KH [03-28-12 11:03]:

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:17:02PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Upgrading to kde 4.8.1 required:

The following packages are going to be downgraded: kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE 12.1-55.52.1 -> 12.1-2.1 kdelibs4-branding-openSUSE 12.1-15.3.9 -> 12.1-2.1 kdm-branding-openSUSE 12.1-15.3.9 -> 12.1-2.1 libqca2 2.0.3-3.1.2 -> 2.0.3-1.1

Is that a problem?

No, only a comment. It required saving file-names that were not to be installed (do to conflicts) to a temp-file, then zypper in names-from-temp-file and answering the conflict resolutions. Not rocket-science but perhaps convoluted to some users.

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It's due to the "fun" issue that osc doesn't copy over the Release field for packages, so, if you update the package, but don't bump the version number, things like this can happen.

I had to change the way the vim package handled its version number for this very issue.

Your efforts are much appreciated. 99% of any problems I have had using Tumbleweed have been of my own making :^). -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg KH

15:21

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 11:16:47AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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* Greg KH [03-28-12 11:03]:

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On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 10:17:02PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Upgrading to kde 4.8.1 required:

The following packages are going to be downgraded: kdebase4-workspace-branding-openSUSE 12.1-55.52.1 -> 12.1-2.1 kdelibs4-branding-openSUSE 12.1-15.3.9 -> 12.1-2.1 kdm-branding-openSUSE 12.1-15.3.9 -> 12.1-2.1 libqca2 2.0.3-3.1.2 -> 2.0.3-1.1

Is that a problem?

No, only a comment. It required saving file-names that were not to be installed (do to conflicts) to a temp-file, then zypper in names-from-temp-file and answering the conflict resolutions. Not rocket-science but perhaps convoluted to some users.

No, a simple 'zypper dup' should have handled this all just fine, and accepting that packages will downgrade at times is normal. No by-hand stuff needed here at all. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Stefan Seyfried

27 Mar 27 Mar

14:42

Am 26.03.2012 22:47, schrieb Greg KH:

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- To preempt any questions about a GNOME update in Tumbleweed, I am looking into it, but it will not happen until it stabilizes in Factory first.

Gnome is 100% unusable in Factory (no extensions, the available ones do not work), so don't do that :-) -- Stefan Seyfried "Dispatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body!" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg KH

16:15

On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 04:42:41PM +0200, Stefan Seyfried wrote:

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Am 26.03.2012 22:47, schrieb Greg KH:

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- To preempt any questions about a GNOME update in Tumbleweed, I am looking into it, but it will not happen until it stabilizes in Factory first.

Gnome is 100% unusable in Factory (no extensions, the available ones do not work), so don't do that :-)

Again, I'll wait to ensure that it is stable, and as I rely on extensions to get my day-to-day work done, I will ensure that those work at the least :) thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Dmitry A. Ashkadov

28 Mar 28 Mar

11:11

Hello! Thank you for your work!

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To make things easier for future updates of the base openSUSE release, please point to the "current" repo, not the explicitly numbers repo. Some people add (for example) repository "http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/openSUSE_12.1/" to install last available stable LO, but there is no such "current" repo "http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/current". I think this "current" may be usable for them, who doesn't use Tumbleweed.

Sometimes LO appears (and then disappears) in Tumbleweed repo, but it always available in "http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/openSUSE_Tumbl..." (1). What is a difference between LO in Tumbleweed repo and LO in (1)? Is there a reason to add LO in Tumbleweed repo? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

Greg KH

15:03

On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 03:11:47PM +0400, Dmitry A. Ashkadov wrote:

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Hello! Thank you for your work!

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To make things easier for future updates of the base openSUSE release, please point to the "current" repo, not the explicitly numbers repo. Some people add (for example) repository "http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/openSUSE_12.1/" to install last available stable LO, but there is no such "current" repo "http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/current". I think this "current" may be usable for them, who doesn't use Tumbleweed.

Tumbleweed doesn't support any other repos being added, other than the main openSUSE ones, you do so at your own risk.

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Sometimes LO appears (and then disappears) in Tumbleweed repo, but it always available in "http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/LibreOffice:/Stable/openSUSE_Tumbl..." (1). What is a difference between LO in Tumbleweed repo and LO in (1)? Is there a reason to add LO in Tumbleweed repo?

So that people don't have to include the LO repo by hand on their systems? Also the LO version should always be at least the version that is in LO:Stable, with the exception that right now the package does not build, see https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=754146 for details. thanks, greg k-h -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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