[opensuse-factory] Any hero for yast2-repair?
Hi, I would like to drop yast2-repair from 11.3 as this fails now for over half a year without anyone interested. The main problem with this yast module is that it needs someone who really tests to repair broken setups a lot - and this means a lot of work and very little reputation, because a repair module is only used when something is broken and if it works it's taken for granted and if it fails, it sucks. As the "fails for 149 days" message on [1] pretty clearly says: there is no one doing this. So I have two options: finding someone who loves repairing or drop it _NOW_. So I'm trying the first option with right this mail, but I need to drop it next week because I need to adapt the boot menu too. Greetings, Stephan [1] https://build.opensuse.org/project/status?project=openSUSE%3AFactory -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Torsdag den 27. maj 2010 12:32:42 skrev Stephan Kulow:
I would like to drop yast2-repair from 11.3 as this fails now for over half a year without anyone interested.
The main problem with this yast module is that it needs someone who really tests to repair broken setups a lot - and this means a lot of work and very little reputation, because a repair module is only used when something is broken and if it works it's taken for granted and if it fails, it sucks.
As the "fails for 149 days" message on [1] pretty clearly says: there is no one doing this. So I have two options: finding someone who loves repairing or drop it _NOW_. So I'm trying the first option with right this mail, but I need to drop it next week because I need to adapt the boot menu too.
Greetings, Stephan [1] https://build.opensuse.org/project/status?project=openSUSE%3AFactory
SLE/Novell really doesn't need this? Personally I'd be happy if there was just a "repair grub" tool. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thursday 27 May 2010 12:43:03 Martin Schlander wrote:
Torsdag den 27. maj 2010 12:32:42 skrev Stephan Kulow:
I would like to drop yast2-repair from 11.3 as this fails now for over half a year without anyone interested.
The main problem with this yast module is that it needs someone who really tests to repair broken setups a lot - and this means a lot of work and very little reputation, because a repair module is only used when something is broken and if it works it's taken for granted and if it fails, it sucks.
As the "fails for 149 days" message on [1] pretty clearly says: there is no one doing this. So I have two options: finding someone who loves repairing or drop it _NOW_. So I'm trying the first option with right this mail, but I need to drop it next week because I need to adapt the boot menu too.
Greetings, Stephan [1] https://build.opensuse.org/project/status?project=openSUSE%3AFactory
SLE/Novell really doesn't need this?
Nope.
Personally I'd be happy if there was just a "repair grub" tool.
There's the repair module of the installation media and that's different to yast2-repair AFAIK, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE, aj@{novell.com,opensuse.org} Twitter: jaegerandi | Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126
Am Donnerstag 27 Mai 2010 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
There's the repair module of the installation media and that's different to yast2-repair AFAIK,
? There is a rescue system and a repair module, nothing beside that. Rescue system and some documentation is usually what is needed to repair bootloader. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Stephan Kulow schreef:
Am Donnerstag 27 Mai 2010 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
There's the repair module of the installation media and that's different to yast2-repair AFAIK,
?
There is a rescue system and a repair module, nothing beside that. Rescue system and some documentation is usually what is needed to repair bootloader.
Greetings, Stephan
From here, it rarely fails to boot an installed system. (i remember only once, not to be able to boot an installed os from this
The problem is, that mostly, so i noticed, the 'repairmodule/rescue system', only works *after* going trough the whole initiation proces until ready to choose: Update or new installation. point on, and this was some versions ago) This might be caused simply by the fact that there is not enough information to repair, at the bootmenu. Than it would mean that all the steps to gather the needed information should be done, before the attempt to repair. On the other hand, with 11.3Ms's i never succeeded to repair a bootloader automaticly.... Always had to do that by hand.... Only once the repair module was actualy realy able to repair a 'broken system', with 10.2 iirc... -- Enjoy your time around, Oddball, aka M9. OS: Linux 2.6.27.19-3.2-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: oddball@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64) KDE: 4.2.1 (KDE 4.2.1) "release 103" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Andreas Jaeger write:
On Thursday 27 May 2010 12:43:03 Martin Schlander wrote:
Torsdag den 27. maj 2010 12:32:42 skrev Stephan Kulow:
I would like to drop yast2-repair from 11.3 as this fails now for over half a year without anyone interested.
The main problem with this yast module is that it needs someone who really tests to repair broken setups a lot - and this means a lot of work and very little reputation, because a repair module is only used when something is broken and if it works it's taken for granted and if it fails, it sucks.
As the "fails for 149 days" message on [1] pretty clearly says: there is no one doing this. So I have two options: finding someone who loves repairing or drop it _NOW_. So I'm trying the first option with right this mail, but I need to drop it next week because I need to adapt the boot menu too.
Greetings, Stephan [1] https://build.opensuse.org/project/status?project=openSUSE%3AFactory
SLE/Novell really doesn't need this?
Nope.
Personally I'd be happy if there was just a "repair grub" tool.
There's the repair module of the installation media and that's different to yast2-repair AFAIK,
No, it is not. It use same module. But I think if goal is reduced to repair bootloader, then it really decrease amount of work ( especially if whole functionality is moved to yast2 bootloader, so everything what happen is to start yast2 bootloader with automatic reproposal). But same functionality is also possible with rescue system and run yast2 bootloader (and click on repropose). In general main problem of yast2 repair (which I "maintain") is that it must reflect all new features in opensuse. It is hard to test and because it is part of inst-sys then if it not work in final release it is really hard to be usable. Whole problem is that repair want do it all itself, so changes in other modules doesn't reflect it. In ideal case repair should change to just call two methods from other modules - detect problem and repair problem. Josef -- Josef Reidinger YaST team maintainer of perl-Bootloader, YaST2-Repair, parts of webyast -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Le 27/05/2010 13:04, Josef Reidinger a écrit :
reproposal). But same functionality is also possible with rescue system and run yast2 bootloader (and click on repropose).
but is there an option of mounting the current system? having to manually mount -o bind proc, sys and dev is really boring (specially when you have to explain this to,others) - mandriva do - just a script may be also better enphasis on the fact that choosing the language on the start screen is used par rescue system (I simply had to work 10 years with it to notice!) jdd -- http://www.dodin.net http://www.facebook.com/pages/I-support-the-Linux-Documentation-Project/3720... http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-fan-page-of-Claire-Dodin/106485119372062?v... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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