Felix Möller writes:

Hi,

it seems like factory dependencies have some problems at the moment. Today zypper removed itself because of a missing dependency it seems. (without warning!) Earlier this week there was the pixman issue, causing Firefox any many other apps to crash.

So I am wondering myself what goes into STABLE and what gets directly into factory (STABLE)?

Currently Eclipse 3.4 is in BETA.[1] But shouldn't the core libraries like zypper and the X be even more tested?

In general stuff should be tested and the libzypp developers do the following: * Build all packages in the Build Service * Fix problems * Once all build, submit all together to STABLE Unfortunately with the last submission this role was not followed and zypper was not submitted. :-(

May I ask who is testing BETA?

Nearly nobody. We use it internally primarily to test what a package will break if we know that the package has a risk - and move the package From BETA to STABLE (aka FACTORY) once we know that it does not break anything - or can submit the failing packages as well... With pixman the maintainer was quite surprised that cairo had a dependency on a *beta* version of pixman - if he would have known that, it would have been broken... :-( It's the week before beta1 and therefore people are quite stressed and make some errors :-(

I do not want to offend anybody, I'd just like to know how the separation of STABLE and BETA works...

Does that explain it? Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Director Platform / openSUSE, aj@suse.de SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Markus Rex, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126