[opensuse-factory] May I make a small suggestion?
I don't know if any of you are aware of how very difficult it is to build gimp-gap-2.4.0 in the openSUSE environment? For a Debian environment, it didn't take too much, except compiling the latest libraries of GTK, Glib and Pango (etc) by hand ... and installing them one-by-one. This may be what is necessary on openSUSE, but, even still, the libraries that ship with the OS should be enough to compile it, right? I mean, it seems a little harder on openSUSE... For instance: the ./configure program will run and it will run completely, but there are several points during the make that it crashes, even after supposedly finding all of the dependencies that it deems necessary for the build. Libraries are not where they should be, header files are not where they should be. I've joined the comp.graphics.apps.gimp newsgroup on USENET, and the one person who replied simply said "it takes 5 hours of tedium, and I can't remember how I actually pulled it off." Well... considering GIMP's overall popularity, do you think someone back there could spend 5 hours creating a gimp-gap RPM to stick onto the 11.0 version? Just a thought. I would hate to think that my Windows environment could do something with a GTK+ based program that my Linux environment couldn't, without hassle. Needing animation, Nathaniel Moschkin --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Nathan Moschkin wrote:
I don't know if any of you are aware of how very difficult it is to build gimp-gap-2.4.0 in the openSUSE environment? For a Debian environment, it didn't take too much, except compiling the latest libraries of GTK, Glib and Pango (etc) by hand ... and installing them one-by-one. This may be what is necessary on openSUSE, but, even still, the libraries that ship with the OS should be enough to compile it, right?
I mean, it seems a little harder on openSUSE...
I guess that no. I will try to compile and put to openSUSE Build Service.
For instance: the ./configure program will run and it will run completely, but there are several points during the make that it crashes, even after supposedly finding all of the dependencies that it deems necessary for the build. Libraries are not where they should be, header files are not where they should be.
I've joined the comp.graphics.apps.gimp newsgroup on USENET, and the one person who replied simply said "it takes 5 hours of tedium, and I can't remember how I actually pulled it off."
Well... considering GIMP's overall popularity, do you think someone back there could spend 5 hours creating a gimp-gap RPM to stick onto the 11.0 version?
It's too late for 11.0, but it may happen for 11.1. -- Best Regards / S pozdravem, Stanislav Brabec software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: sbrabec@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 966, +49 911 740538747 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Stanislav Brabec wrote:
Nathan Moschkin wrote:
I don't know if any of you are aware of how very difficult it is to build gimp-gap-2.4.0 in the openSUSE environment?
I have just reviewed this package. It contains a lot of patent encumbered code. Only file format stripped version could be legally prepared for openSUSE. I am not sure, whether feature stripped version would be interesting for anybody. Such version would contain all the editing features, but it will not support any standard file format. Things, which may be included: - Motion JPEG - Single frame encoding - AVI RAW stream encoding - WAV audio Things which have to go: - MPEG2/4 ffmpeg video and avi xvid support - MPEG2/4 ffmpeg audio - MP3 audio - A52/AC3 (possibly) -- Best Regards / S pozdravem, Stanislav Brabec software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: sbrabec@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 966, +49 911 740538747 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Stanislav Brabec wrote:
Stanislav Brabec wrote:
I have just reviewed this package. It contains a lot of patent encumbered code.
Well ... would it be possible to build a package that would allow users to build gap themselves with relative ease if they wanted the codecs included? I mean, the editing features are very key .... even for simple GIF and motion JPG animations... motion JPG sounds like it would be a very powerful tool, anyway, as I use animations to help people build websites. ... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday 03 June 2008 04:13:36 pm Nathan Moschkin wrote:
Stanislav Brabec wrote:
Stanislav Brabec wrote:
I have just reviewed this package. It contains a lot of patent encumbered code.
Well ... would it be possible to build a package that would allow users to build gap themselves with relative ease if they wanted the codecs included?
I mean, the editing features are very key .... even for simple GIF and motion JPG animations... motion JPG sounds like it would be a very powerful tool, anyway, as I use animations to help people build websites.
You'd be better off asking someone like Pascal (Guru) or one of the other community repository members... http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories I xposted this to the opensuse list since it probably will get more attention there. -- kai www.filesite.org || www.4thedadz.com || www.perfectreign.com remember - a turn signal is a statement, not a request --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Kai Ponte wrote:
On Tuesday 03 June 2008 04:13:36 pm Nathan Moschkin wrote:
Stanislav Brabec wrote:
Stanislav Brabec wrote:
I have just reviewed this package. It contains a lot of patent encumbered code.
Well ... would it be possible to build a package that would allow users to build gap themselves with relative ease if they wanted the codecs included?
I mean, the editing features are very key .... even for simple GIF and motion JPG animations... motion JPG sounds like it would be a very powerful tool, anyway, as I use animations to help people build websites.
You'd be better off asking someone like Pascal (Guru) or one of the other community repository members...
http://en.opensuse.org/Additional_YaST_Package_Repositories
I xposted this to the opensuse list since it probably will get more attention there.
I already did a successful build of patent-free gimp-gap. I had to disable mjpeg as well, as this code is deeply in ffmpeg and it would take a lot of time to include its support there. I'll submit it to Factory (after 11.0) and to some OBS repository, where gimp resides. However I did not care about configuring of extra features of bundled ffmpeg. It is an old version (2005) and I would expect problems when you will try to enable optional features. Porting to new ffmpeg would be problematic as well, as ffmpeg changed its API several times. -- Best Regards / S pozdravem, Stanislav Brabec software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: sbrabec@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 966, +49 911 740538747 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Stanislav Brabec wrote:
Kai Ponte wrote:
I already did a successful build of patent-free gimp-gap. I had to disable mjpeg as well, as this code is deeply in ffmpeg and it would take a lot of time to include its support there.
I'll submit it to Factory (after 11.0) and to some OBS repository, where gimp resides.
And it's finally in the OBS: http://software.opensuse.org/search?baseproject=ALL&p=1&q=gimp-gap -- Best Regards / S pozdravem, Stanislav Brabec software developer --------------------------------------------------------------------- SUSE LINUX, s. r. o. e-mail: sbrabec@suse.cz Lihovarská 1060/12 tel: +420 284 028 966, +49 911 740538747 190 00 Praha 9 fax: +420 284 028 951 Czech Republic http://www.suse.cz/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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