[opensuse-factory] Power management bugs
Hi everyone! I was wondering if nobody else but two people experience that oS 11.4 does not behave when on battery, i.e. makes the hard disk suspend every few minutes. This has been long reported and also confirmed, but apparently it is not widespread, is it? https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067 Same, though only for the eye. Does splashy work for anyone when suspending to disk? I only get some error message which makes oS simply look bad, even with RC1. https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=664793 Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Torsdag den 17. februar 2011 19:02:43 skrev Sven Burmeister:
I was wondering if nobody else but two people experience that oS 11.4 does not behave when on battery, i.e. makes the hard disk suspend every few minutes.
Happens to me too. And not every few minutes - the disk suspends after 5 seconds of idle, maybe less. Seriously, if I blink it suspends - luckily I don't run on battery often. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am 17.02.2011 19:02, schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Hi everyone!
I was wondering if nobody else but two people experience that oS 11.4 does not behave when on battery, i.e. makes the hard disk suspend every few minutes.
This has been long reported and also confirmed, but apparently it is not widespread, is it?
I have the same symptoms on my netbook. When on battery, it does spin down very fast and starts again some seconds later. APM_level is at 1 when on battery and at 254 when plugged in. Best regards, Thomas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Thu, 17 Feb 2011 20:06:22 +0100
Thomas Leineweber
Am 17.02.2011 19:02, schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Hi everyone!
I was wondering if nobody else but two people experience that oS 11.4 does not behave when on battery, i.e. makes the hard disk suspend every few minutes.
This has been long reported and also confirmed, but apparently it is not widespread, is it?
I have the same symptoms on my netbook. When on battery, it does spin down very fast and starts again some seconds later. APM_level is at 1 when on battery and at 254 when plugged in.
Best regards, Thomas Hi I see the same on my eeePC 1000HE netbook.
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Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 19:02:43 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Hi everyone!
I was wondering if nobody else but two people experience that oS 11.4 does not behave when on battery, i.e. makes the hard disk suspend every few minutes.
This has been long reported and also confirmed, but apparently it is not widespread, is it?
This is regular behaviour for linux, check 'Load_Cycle_Count linux' in google, snip from my smartctl -a /dev/sda 193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 011 011 000 Old_age Always - 568628 240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0032 089 089 000 Old_age Always - 8360 Yeah I am basicly waiting for the hd to die =/
Same, though only for the eye. Does splashy work for anyone when suspending to disk? I only get some error message which makes oS simply look bad, even with RC1.
https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=664793
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Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 20:19:55 schrieb Karsten König:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 19:02:43 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Hi everyone!
I was wondering if nobody else but two people experience that oS 11.4 does not behave when on battery, i.e. makes the hard disk suspend every few minutes.
This has been long reported and also confirmed, but apparently it is not widespread, is it?
This is regular behaviour for linux, check
Then why did I not notice it with 11.3? Sven -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag 17 Februar 2011 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 20:19:55 schrieb Karsten König:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 19:02:43 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Hi everyone!
I was wondering if nobody else but two people experience that oS 11.4 does not behave when on battery, i.e. makes the hard disk suspend every few minutes.
This has been long reported and also confirmed, but apparently it is not widespread, is it?
This is regular behaviour for linux, check
Then why did I not notice it with 11.3?
Sven Just using Factory, so I don't know about "regular behaviour for linux", but I noticed this in the timeframe Sven filed https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067, too. So maybe my last comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067#c8 could bring the assignee to look at it.
Greetings, Hans-Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Le jeudi 17 février 2011, à 22:43 +0100, Hans-Peter Holler a écrit :
So maybe my last comment https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=663067#c8 could bring the assignee to look at it.
It doesn't help that you assigned it to the wrong person... Anyway, I looked at that, and I have no clue what is right to do. However, what I can tell: - it's the pm-utils default behavior - this can be configured (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662383#c3) - Fedora dropped this part for now (see http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=pm-utils.git;a=commitdiff;h=85406683...) Now someone who knows better than me about power management can probably take a decision. Cheers, Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 01:34:07 +0100
Vincent Untz
It doesn't help that you assigned it to the wrong person... Anyway, I looked at that, and I have no clue what is right to do. However, what I can tell:
- it's the pm-utils default behavior
The problem is, that pm-utils upstream is not very competent wrt power management IMNSHO. Since Mr Lowther kidnapped the project, the sanity of the whole approach has not increased. To say it politely. So I'd rather follow Matthew Garret's advice (who is competent wrt PM) and patch the package instead of blindly relying on "upstream" doing the right thing.
- this can be configured (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662383#c3)
Huh? I don't see a knob in gnome-power-manager.
- Fedora dropped this part for now (see http://pkgs.fedoraproject.org/gitweb/?p=pm-utils.git;a=commitdiff;h=85406683...)
go figure. -- Stefan Seyfried "Dispatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body!" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Le vendredi 18 février 2011, à 09:30 +0100, Stefan Seyfried a écrit :
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 01:34:07 +0100 Vincent Untz
wrote: - this can be configured (see https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=662383#c3)
Huh? I don't see a knob in gnome-power-manager.
It's configurable with a file in /etc. See the link. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:42:44 +0100
Vincent Untz
Le vendredi 18 février 2011, à 09:30 +0100, Stefan Seyfried a écrit :
Huh? I don't see a knob in gnome-power-manager.
It's configurable with a file in /etc. See the link.
Ah! That's user friendly. NOT. If I wanted to do that, I could have stayed with KDE ;-P For those who don't want to fiddle with config files and just get rid of the crap, they can do the following as root: touch /etc/pm/power.d/harddrive -- Stefan Seyfried "Dispatch war rocket Ajax to bring back his body!" -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Le vendredi 18 février 2011, à 11:13 +0100, Stefan Seyfried a écrit :
On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 10:42:44 +0100 Vincent Untz
wrote: Le vendredi 18 février 2011, à 09:30 +0100, Stefan Seyfried a écrit :
Huh? I don't see a knob in gnome-power-manager.
It's configurable with a file in /etc. See the link.
Ah! That's user friendly. NOT.
If I wanted to do that, I could have stayed with KDE ;-P
I'm not saying it's user-friendly. I'm merely pointing out how pm-utils, which has nothing to do with the desktops, is working. Vincent -- Les gens heureux ne sont pas pressés. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Torsdag den 17. februar 2011 21:19:23 skrev Sven Burmeister:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 20:19:55 schrieb Karsten König:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 19:02:43 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Hi everyone!
I was wondering if nobody else but two people experience that oS 11.4 does not behave when on battery, i.e. makes the hard disk suspend every few minutes.
This has been long reported and also confirmed, but apparently it is not widespread, is it?
This is regular behaviour for linux, check
Then why did I not notice it with 11.3?
I've been running 11.1, 11.2 and 11.3 on the exact same hardware - never had the problem until 11.4. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
I was wondering if nobody else but two people experience that oS 11.4 does not behave when on battery, i.e. makes the hard disk suspend every few minutes.
I've been running 11.1, 11.2 and 11.3 on the exact same hardware - never had the problem until 11.4.
Me too. Werner PS: I have the strong feeling that support for my few years old Dell Inspiron laptop gets worse and worse. Each time I test a new kernel I fear that either my i945GM graphics chip or the ACPI power management is broken again. For example, running 2.6.38-rc4-9-pae right now, three out of four tries booting fails; it then hangs at i915 0000:00:02.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16 Other problems are corrupt caching of glyphs (since a longer time) and really nasty graphic artifacts while pressing PgDn/PgUp in Mozilla 3.6.13... Similarly, hibernating the system $(Q#|(B if it works, since it fails quite often with a freeze $(Q#|(B regularly makes KDE crash later on; it seems that there is some memory corruption. Sigh. Will write/check bug reports for those issues if I find some time. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 21:19:23 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 20:19:55 schrieb Karsten König:
Am Donnerstag, 17. Februar 2011, 19:02:43 schrieb Sven Burmeister:
Hi everyone!
I was wondering if nobody else but two people experience that oS 11.4 does not behave when on battery, i.e. makes the hard disk suspend every few minutes.
This has been long reported and also confirmed, but apparently it is not widespread, is it?
This is regular behaviour for linux, check
Then why did I not notice it with 11.3?
Sven
You are right this changed between 11.3 and 11.4, I was judging to quickly on the rather annoying constant head unloading under linux, this is a different issue. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
participants (9)
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Hans-Peter Holler
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Karsten König
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Malcolm
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Martin Schlander
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Stefan Seyfried
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Sven Burmeister
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Thomas Leineweber
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Vincent Untz
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Werner LEMBERG