On Thursday 08 Oct 2009 21:48:36 Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

On 08/10/09 16:31, Peter Nikolic wrote:

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this did not happen prior to the latest updates

If using the opensource drivers, open a bug report, else contact ATI. Drivers as with the download from suse so is that the opensource drivers ? it is the radeon driver (radeonhd does not work at all)

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Rajko M. wrote:

On Thursday 08 October 2009 17:04:37 Peter Nikolic wrote:

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You better update to M8. The problem is solved for the same graphic card.

Sorry to say I've done a clean install of M8 with the same graphics card and get the exactly the same problem. DC -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 09 October 2009 01:53:37 Peter Nikolic wrote:

Wrong machine ;-)

Could be. I'm running M8 + Factory, but what I have forgotten is that I use xorg.conf while by default M8 doesn't. Try to run 'sax2 -m 0:radeon' and see if that solves problem. -- Regards, Rajko People of openSUSE editor. Latest interviews: http://news.opensuse.org/category/people-of-opensuse/ About us: http://en.opensuse.org/People_of_openSUSE/About -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

Peter Nikolic wrote:

On Saturday 10 Oct 2009 00:57:11 Rajko M. wrote:

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On Friday 09 October 2009 01:53:37 Peter Nikolic wrote:

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Wrong machine ;-)

Could be. I'm running M8 + Factory, but what I have forgotten is that I use xorg.conf while by default M8 doesn't. Try to run 'sax2 -m 0:radeon' and see if that solves problem.

Nope seems it runs deeper than that after shutting the machine down over night it now will not boot init 5 only init 3 i can then SOMETIMES get X top run and KDE up but sure as i try to do anything it just bombs out to the login .

will have to try doing another zypper dup in a couple of days see if anything has been CORRECTED ! as it is plainly a failure to test something to a reasonable standard before it is pushed out . 11.0 still works ok so it is not an hardware problem . this is not some strange unusual machine it is a very common Compaq Presario V5030 sold by the truck load

Pets If you are sure about not being able to ssh in (i.e. its not just the firewall), then I would think that means that its not an X problem, but some sort of kernel oops on loading the graphics drivers or something. Hunt around your logfiles and try and find some more info (dmesg? /var/log/messages?)

And by the way, don't know why you are complaining about not enough testing, you are the one supposed to be doing the testing, you are running Factory after all. These kinds of things happen. Regards, MasterPatricko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On 10/10/09 08:37, MasterPatricko wrote:

Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Saturday 10 Oct 2009 00:57:11 Rajko M. wrote:

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On Friday 09 October 2009 01:53:37 Peter Nikolic wrote:

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Wrong machine ;-)

Could be. I'm running M8 + Factory, but what I have forgotten is that I use xorg.conf while by default M8 doesn't. Try to run 'sax2 -m 0:radeon' and see if that solves problem.

Nope seems it runs deeper than that after shutting the machine down over night it now will not boot init 5 only init 3 i can then SOMETIMES get X top run and KDE up but sure as i try to do anything it just bombs out to the login .

will have to try doing another zypper dup in a couple of days see if anything has been CORRECTED ! as it is plainly a failure to test something to a reasonable standard before it is pushed out . 11.0 still works ok so it is not an hardware problem . this is not some strange unusual machine it is a very common Compaq Presario V5030 sold by the truck load

Pets If you are sure about not being able to ssh in (i.e. its not just the firewall), then I would think that means that its not an X problem, but some sort of kernel oops on loading the graphics drivers or something. Hunt around your logfiles and try and find some more info (dmesg? /var/log/messages?)

And by the way, don't know why you are complaining about not enough testing, you are the one supposed to be doing the testing, you are running Factory after all. These kinds of things happen.

Regards,

MasterPatricko

I can ssh in, but the display problem is KDE4 related. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On 10/10/09 15:04, Rajko M. wrote:

On Saturday 10 October 2009 08:16:29 Sid Boyce wrote:

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I see the same happening in KDE4 with the X1250 chip, I haven't tried the other laptop with the 9600 yet. KDE3 no problem. Both radeon and radeonhd affected.

Have you tried to create new user, or to move .kde4 to .kde4-bak and boot computer with that.

Moved .kde4 before rebooting. I login and during setup of the saved session, it dumps me back to the login prompt. I select kde3 and that works. I wonder if kde 4.3.2 will make it into 11.2 and possibly fix problems like the "FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE" hang that happens if qjackctl, VirtualBox and others if run from a terminal logged in as root with "su" but works if run across the network from ssh -X or locally with "su -". Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Friday 16 Oct 2009 05:22:11 David C. Rankin wrote:

On Saturday 10 October 2009 02:19:25 am Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Saturday 10 Oct 2009 00:57:11 Rajko M. wrote:

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On Friday 09 October 2009 01:53:37 Peter Nikolic wrote:

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Wrong machine ;-)

Could be. I'm running M8 + Factory, but what I have forgotten is that I use xorg.conf while by default M8 doesn't. Try to run 'sax2 -m 0:radeon' and see if that solves problem.

Nope seems it runs deeper than that after shutting the machine down over night it now will not boot init 5 only init 3 i can then SOMETIMES get X top run and KDE up but sure as i try to do anything it just bombs out to the login .

will have to try doing another zypper dup in a couple of days see if anything has been CORRECTED ! as it is plainly a failure to test something to a reasonable standard before it is pushed out . 11.0 still works ok so it is not an hardware problem . this is not some strange unusual machine it is a very common Compaq Presario V5030 sold by the truck load

Pete

Pete,

Best you are going to do for your card is to go grab the latest radeonhd code from the git repository (and drm) and build drm and the radeonhd driver and install it. Simple enough. Just follow the directions at:

http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd

Much better performance than the standard radeon or ati driver but still 600% poorer performance than the fglrx driver. Also heating is a problem with all drivers except the fglrx driver because the opensource drivers lack the proprietary downclocking and gpu powerdown of the fglrx driver. You will notice the difference on your palmrest...

Hi All well been away for a few days (no computers no phones no noise no hassles ) I have updated the lappy to to the RC1 still strange when booting if i boot to init 3 log in as root then run init 5 i can log into KDE ass user no problem and i seems to behave ok no konki crash and the video driver (radeon) as supplied does not seem to be tooo bad ! bit snails pace but works . However if i try to boot straight into graphics mode it freezes just after HAL and will not respond to anything but a hard reset , Cant find anything in the logs of use at all so ideas as to just how to go about trying to find out what is going on please .. Pete . (back in smelly dirty bad assed Briminghan for a while) -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.30-rc6-git3-4- default KDE: 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) "release 1" 20:40 up 0:48, 2 users, load average: 0.18, 0.10, 0.09

2009/10/18 Daniel Fuhrmann :

Am Sonntag 18 Oktober 2009 21:47:20 schrieb Peter Nikolic:

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On Friday 16 Oct 2009 05:22:11 David C. Rankin wrote:

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On Saturday 10 October 2009 02:19:25 am Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Saturday 10 Oct 2009 00:57:11 Rajko M. wrote:

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On Friday 09 October 2009 01:53:37 Peter Nikolic wrote:

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Wrong machine  ;-)

Could be. I'm running M8 + Factory, but what I have forgotten is that I use xorg.conf while by default M8 doesn't. Try to run 'sax2 -m 0:radeon' and see if that solves problem.

Nope seems it runs deeper than that after shutting the machine down over night it now will not boot init 5 only init 3  i  can then SOMETIMES get X top run and KDE up but sure as i try to do anything it just bombs out to the login .

will have to try doing another zypper dup in a couple of days see if  anything has been CORRECTED ! as it is plainly a failure to test something to a reasonable standard  before it is pushed out .   11.0 still works ok so it is not an hardware problem  . this is not some strange unusual machine it is a very common Compaq Presario V5030 sold by the truck load

Pete

Pete,

    Best you are going to do for your card is to go grab the latest radeonhd code from the git repository (and drm) and build drm and the radeonhd driver and install it. Simple enough. Just follow the directions at:

http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd

    Much better performance than the standard radeon or ati driver but still 600% poorer performance than the fglrx driver. Also heating is a problem with all drivers except the fglrx driver because the opensource drivers lack the proprietary downclocking and gpu powerdown of the fglrx driver. You will notice the difference on your palmrest...

Hi All

well been away for a few days (no computers no phones  no noise no hassles  ) I have updated the lappy to to the RC1 still strange when booting  if i  boot to init 3 log in as root then  run init 5 i can log into KDE ass user  no problem and i seems to behave ok no konki crash  and the video driver  (radeon) as supplied does not seem to be tooo bad ! bit snails pace but  works . However if i try to boot straight into graphics mode it freezes just after  HAL and will not respond to anything but a hard reset , Cant find anything  in the logs of use at all so ideas as to just how to go about trying to  find out what is going on please ..

Same for me here, radeon xpress 200m. Sometimes it boots into X but only randomly. Thougt it is the grafik driver and waiting for fglrx. ready for 11.2 :( nu success with compiling. Running sax 2 and creating xorg.conf brings no improvement.

It depends of the model of Your ATI video card. If the model is <2400, the latest driver You can use, is Catalyst 9.3. If the model video card is >2400, You can use the latest driver, but for example for 9.8, it need a few retouching in a source file: https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535216#c6 After a install atempt with sh ati-driver-installer-9-8-x86.x86_64.run, to recreate the files in /lib/modules/fglrx, I removed the if rutine related to "p = find_task_by_vpid(pid);" The source file to edit is: /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c deletting the if routine "p = find_task_by_vpid(pid);" they was about four lines, and remaked the kernel module with /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod # ./make.sh And later called: /lib/modules/fglrx # ./make_install.sh I try to load the module: modprobe fglrx I got no errors. Then I configured the driver with the aticonfig command. Regards, Juan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org

On Sunday 18 Oct 2009 21:56:28 Juan Erbes wrote:

2009/10/18 Daniel Fuhrmann :

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Am Sonntag 18 Oktober 2009 21:47:20 schrieb Peter Nikolic:

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On Friday 16 Oct 2009 05:22:11 David C. Rankin wrote:

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On Saturday 10 October 2009 02:19:25 am Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Saturday 10 Oct 2009 00:57:11 Rajko M. wrote:

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On Friday 09 October 2009 01:53:37 Peter Nikolic wrote: > Wrong machine ;-)

Could be. I'm running M8 + Factory, but what I have forgotten is that I use xorg.conf while by default M8 doesn't. Try to run 'sax2 -m 0:radeon' and see if that solves problem.

Nope seems it runs deeper than that after shutting the machine down over night it now will not boot init 5 only init 3 i can then SOMETIMES get X top run and KDE up but sure as i try to do anything it just bombs out to the login .

will have to try doing another zypper dup in a couple of days see if anything has been CORRECTED ! as it is plainly a failure to test something to a reasonable standard before it is pushed out . 11.0 still works ok so it is not an hardware problem . this is not some strange unusual machine it is a very common Compaq Presario V5030 sold by the truck load

Pete

Pete,

Best you are going to do for your card is to go grab the latest radeonhd code from the git repository (and drm) and build drm and the radeonhd driver and install it. Simple enough. Just follow the directions at:

http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd

Much better performance than the standard radeon or ati driver but still 600% poorer performance than the fglrx driver. Also heating is a problem with all drivers except the fglrx driver because the opensource drivers lack the proprietary downclocking and gpu powerdown of the fglrx driver. You will notice the difference on your palmrest...

Hi All

well been away for a few days (no computers no phones no noise no hassles ) I have updated the lappy to to the RC1 still strange when booting if i boot to init 3 log in as root then run init 5 i can log into KDE ass user no problem and i seems to behave ok no konki crash and the video driver (radeon) as supplied does not seem to be tooo bad ! bit snails pace but works . However if i try to boot straight into graphics mode it freezes just after HAL and will not respond to anything but a hard reset , Cant find anything in the logs of use at all so ideas as to just how to go about trying to find out what is going on please ..

Same for me here, radeon xpress 200m. Sometimes it boots into X but only randomly. Thougt it is the grafik driver and waiting for fglrx. ready for 11.2

:( nu success with compiling. Running sax 2 and creating xorg.conf brings : no

improvement.

It depends of the model of Your ATI video card. If the model is <2400, the latest driver You can use, is Catalyst 9.3. If the model video card is >2400, You can use the latest driver, but for example for 9.8, it need a few retouching in a source file:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535216#c6

After a install atempt with sh ati-driver-installer-9-8-x86.x86_64.run, to recreate the files in /lib/modules/fglrx, I removed the if rutine related to "p = find_task_by_vpid(pid);" The source file to edit is: /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c

deletting the if routine "p = find_task_by_vpid(pid);"

they was about four lines, and remaked the kernel module with /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod # ./make.sh

And later called:

/lib/modules/fglrx # ./make_install.sh

I try to load the module:

modprobe fglrx

I got no errors.

Then I configured the driver with the aticonfig command.

Regards, Juan

the model is M200 PCIE is 9599 so 2400 ect is what ? no sucj numbers on this card .. -- Powered by openSUSE 11.2 Milestone 2 (x86_64) Kernel: 2.6.30-rc6-git3-4- default KDE: 4.2.86 (KDE 4.2.86 (KDE 4.3 >= 20090514)) "release 1" 08:12 up 12:19, 2 users, load average: 0.57, 0.20, 0.06

2009/10/19 Peter Nikolic :

On Sunday 18 Oct 2009 21:56:28 Juan Erbes wrote:

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2009/10/18 Daniel Fuhrmann :

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Am Sonntag 18 Oktober 2009 21:47:20 schrieb Peter Nikolic:

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On Friday 16 Oct 2009 05:22:11 David C. Rankin wrote:

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On Saturday 10 October 2009 02:19:25 am Peter Nikolic wrote:

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On Saturday 10 Oct 2009 00:57:11 Rajko M. wrote: > On Friday 09 October 2009 01:53:37 Peter Nikolic wrote: > > Wrong machine  ;-) > > Could be. I'm running M8 + Factory, but what I have forgotten is > that I use xorg.conf while by default M8 doesn't. Try to run 'sax2 > -m 0:radeon' and see if that solves problem.

Nope seems it runs deeper than that after shutting the machine down over night it now will not boot init 5 only init 3  i  can then SOMETIMES get X top run and KDE up but sure as i try to do anything it just bombs out to the login .

will have to try doing another zypper dup in a couple of days see if  anything has been CORRECTED ! as it is plainly a failure to test something to a reasonable standard  before it is pushed out .   11.0 still works ok so it is not an hardware problem  . this is not some strange unusual machine it is a very common Compaq Presario V5030 sold by the truck load

Pete

Pete,

    Best you are going to do for your card is to go grab the latest radeonhd code from the git repository (and drm) and build drm and the radeonhd driver and install it. Simple enough. Just follow the directions at:

http://wiki.x.org/wiki/radeonhd

    Much better performance than the standard radeon or ati driver but still 600% poorer performance than the fglrx driver. Also heating is a problem with all drivers except the fglrx driver because the opensource drivers lack the proprietary downclocking and gpu powerdown of the fglrx driver. You will notice the difference on your palmrest...

Hi All

well been away for a few days (no computers no phones  no noise no hassles ) I have updated the lappy to to the RC1 still strange when booting  if i boot to init 3 log in as root then  run init 5 i can log into KDE ass user no problem and i seems to behave ok no konki crash  and the video driver (radeon) as supplied does not seem to be tooo bad ! bit snails pace but works . However if i try to boot straight into graphics mode it freezes just after HAL and will not respond to anything but a hard reset , Cant find anything in the logs of use at all so ideas as to just how to go about trying to find out what is going on please ..

Same for me here, radeon xpress 200m. Sometimes it boots into X but only randomly. Thougt it is the grafik driver and waiting for fglrx. ready for 11.2

:( nu success with compiling. Running sax 2 and creating xorg.conf brings : no

improvement.

It depends of the model of Your ATI video card. If the model is <2400, the latest driver You can use, is Catalyst 9.3. If the model video card is >2400, You can use the latest driver, but for example for 9.8, it need a few retouching in a source file:

https://bugzilla.novell.com/show_bug.cgi?id=535216#c6

After a install atempt with sh ati-driver-installer-9-8-x86.x86_64.run, to recreate the files in /lib/modules/fglrx, I removed the if rutine related to "p = find_task_by_vpid(pid);" The source file to edit is: /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod/firegl_public.c

deletting the if routine "p = find_task_by_vpid(pid);"

they was about four lines, and remaked the kernel module with /lib/modules/fglrx/build_mod # ./make.sh

And later called:

/lib/modules/fglrx # ./make_install.sh

I try to load the module:

modprobe fglrx

I got no errors.

Then I configured the driver with the aticonfig command.

Regards,              Juan

the model is M200   PCIE is 9599  so 2400 ect is what ?    no sucj numbers on this card ..

If the model is Radeon 9599, the nearest model in the driver selection is Radeon 9550, then the latest version You use, is 9.3, because the chip is earlier than the 2400 http://support.amd.com/la/gpudownload/linux/Legacy/Pages /radeon_linux.aspx?type=2.4.1&product=2.4.1.3.25&lang=English https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/catalyst_9... The supported chips by the latest Catalyst driver, are the video chips > R600 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units#Rad... Regards -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org