On 23/09/14 22:35, Per Jessen wrote:

Basil Chupin wrote:

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Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.

The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).

I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.

OK, Sydney is a city in the state of New South Wales but it is NOT the Capital of Australia. Hi Basil

The city listed in a time zone is not necessarily the capital, e.g. Europe/Zurich. Switzerland per definition does not have a capital, although the de facto capital is Bern (seat of the federal government).

That's good enough for me: Bern is the capital of Switzerland and which is "......the seat of the federal authorities..". BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.1 & kernel 3.16.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 09/23/2014 10:49 AM, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

El 23/09/14 a las #4, Basil Chupin escribió:

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Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.

The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).

I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.

You will have to troll the IETF instead :-D we have nothing to do with or have a say about how this is all organized.

FWIW, there is no conspiracy against Australia. The capital of the United States, Washington DC, is not listed either. In that time zone, you need to select New York. Larry -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

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"Bernhard" == Bernhard Voelker writes:

Bernhard> On 09/23/2014 07:06 PM, Larry Finger wrote: >> FWIW, there is no conspiracy against Australia. The capital of the >> United States, Washington DC, is not listed either. In that time zone, >> you need to select New York. Bernhard> Same here in Bavaria: instead of Munich, I have to select Berlin Bernhard> or Paris. SCNR ;-)) BRD = Bavaria und Rest Deutschland ;) -- Life is endless possibilities -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 24/09/14 06:18, Mathias Homann wrote:

Am Dienstag 23 September 2014, 19:17:13 schrieb Bernhard Voelker:

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On 09/23/2014 07:06 PM, Larry Finger wrote:

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FWIW, there is no conspiracy against Australia. The capital of the

United States, Washington DC, is not listed either. In that time zone, you need to select New York.

Same here in Bavaria: instead of Munich, I have to select Berlin or Paris. SCNR ;-))

Have a nice day, Berny "Time zone names are based on the public 'tz' (or 'zoneinfo') time zone database maintained by IANA.

The IANA?! The Islamic Association of North America?! Now I've heard everything.

Time zones are named based on continent or ocean, then typically but not always the largest city within the time zone."

SCNR.

Cheers, MH Just put *Canberra* in the damn list as the selection for the Time Zone for the east coast of Australia and that'll be the end of it!

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Op donderdag 2 oktober 2014 17:52:09 schreef Basil Chupin:

Just put *Canberra* in the damn list as the selection for the Time Zone for the east coast of Australia and that'll be the end of it!

BC

You are barking at the wrong tree. The people of IANA that maintain the time zone list are the one to address. See http://www.iana.org/time-zones -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 24/09/14 03:17, Bernhard Voelker wrote:

On 09/23/2014 07:06 PM, Larry Finger wrote:

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FWIW, there is no conspiracy against Australia. The capital of the United States, Washington DC, is not listed either. In that time zone, you need to select New York.

Same here in Bavaria: instead of Munich, I have to select Berlin or Paris. SCNR ;-))

Have a nice day, Berny

Then you should be protesting most vehemently! Munich is the capital of Bavaria and you MUST be able to select Munich and not some provincial towns like Berlin or Paris to set your Time Zone! BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.1 & kernel 3.16.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 24/09/14 03:06, Larry Finger wrote:

On 09/23/2014 10:49 AM, Cristian Rodr�guez wrote:

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El 23/09/14 a las #4, Basil Chupin escribi�:

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Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.

The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).

I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.

You will have to troll the IETF instead :-D we have nothing to do with or have a say about how this is all organized.

FWIW, there is no conspiracy against Australia. The capital of the United States, Washington DC, is not listed either. In that time zone, you need to select New York.

Aww, come on there, Larry, "The capital of the United States, Washington DC.......". Everybody knows that the US of A is run from New York by the banks and Wall Street, with Washington being the place where decisions and legislation written by the banks and Wall Street are rubber stamped. But on a matter of principle, I would argue that Washington *should* be shown as the entry for the Time Zone for east coast of America. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.1 & kernel 3.16.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 02/10/14 21:46, Patrick Shanahan wrote:

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Aww, come on there, Larry, "The capital of the United States, Washington DC.......". Everybody knows that the US of A is run from New York by the banks and Wall Street, with Washington being the place where decisions and legislation written by the banks and Wall Street are rubber stamped.

But on a matter of principle, I would argue that Washington *should* be shown as the entry for the Time Zone for east coast of America. Basil, your statements are not contributory in light of the problem you

* Basil Chupin [10-02-14 03:41]: [...] pose and are putting you into troll territory. Noise for the sake of noise.

You have been told that a nation's capitol or location representing that status is not selected as representative of a time zone rather that location which relates best to the most people.

If you cannot accept that, rather than debate (used very loosely) it here, why not go to the source of your perceived problem and provide information that will sway those individuals to your thoughts.

You will only accomplish inane traffic here, which you already know :^( Ah, Patrick The Wise comes up, as always, with the appropriate comment.

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On 24/09/14 01:49, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

El 23/09/14 a las #4, Basil Chupin escribi�:

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Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.

The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).

I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.

You will have to troll the IETF instead :-D we have nothing to do with or have a say about how this is all organized.

Cannot see anywhere where they are involved in prescribing Sydney or Brisbane or Melbourne to used to determine the Time Zone for the East Coast of Australia. As the IETF appears to be a loose cluster of individuals with no real standing apart from being assumed to be some sort of a de-facto authority for setting "standards" then they can be told that Canberra is the capital of Australia and should be treated as the sole reference point for setting the Time Zone for the East Coast of Australia. Period. And as I live in Canberra then this only makes my case even stronger. BC -- Using openSUSE 13.1, KDE 4.14.1 & kernel 3.16.3-1 on a system with- AMD FX 8-core 3.6/4.2GHz processor 16GB PC14900/1866MHz Quad Channel RAM Gigabyte AMD3+ m/board; Gigabyte nVidia GTX660 GPU -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org

On 10/02/2014 05:01 PM, Basil Chupin wrote:

On 24/09/14 01:49, Cristian Rodríguez wrote:

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El 23/09/14 a las #4, Basil Chupin escribi�:

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Just a note for the developers who put together, for example, the installation group of files and those who do KDE files which contain references to cities of the world for setting time zones and similar.

The capital of Australia is CANBERRA, repeat Canberra, and not, say, Sydney or Melbourne (on the East coast).

I have yet to see Canberra shown anywhere in the list of cities re time zones, or - when installing oS - the one of the cities one sees listed is Sydney when selecting the time zone.

You will have to troll the IETF instead :-D we have nothing to do with or have a say about how this is all organized.

Cannot see anywhere where they are involved in prescribing Sydney or Brisbane or Melbourne to used to determine the Time Zone for the East Coast of Australia.

Well for almost half the year Brisbane has a different time to Sydney, Melbourne and Canberra because Brisbane doesn't follow daylight savings. And some years Melbourne and Sydney don't swap to daylight savings at the same time, As for Canberra i think they just follow whatever NSW decides. As for me i live near enough to Adelaide which gets its own mention as it has its own timezone, maybe you should convince the Canberra government to do the same :-P

As the IETF appears to be a loose cluster of individuals with no real standing apart from being assumed to be some sort of a de-facto authority for setting "standards" then they can be told that Canberra is the capital of Australia and should be treated as the sole reference point for setting the Time Zone for the East Coast of Australia. Period.

And as I live in Canberra then this only makes my case even stronger.

BC

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