[opensuse-factory] pulseaudio integration
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Hi, I sent a letter to opensuse@, but I haven't got any reply, so I try here, maybe someone can turn me to the right direction: I don't have the resources at the moment to test a new install, so I ask here. The way how pulseaudio integrated into the system is different with new install and upgrade from 11.0 to 11.1? I did an upgrade, and I had to configure gconf to hear anything from Amarok. Flash plugin doesn't have sound also. I found a good page http://www.pulseaudio.org/wiki/PerfectSetup . I played some hours while I localized the source of problem, which caused a soundless Amarok. So my question is what decision was made about pulseaudio. If it will remain and this non-integration is not the fault of my upgrade, than some work would be nice on this side. Please write your thought, how this situation should be resolved. By documentation or to make it works out of the box? I'll try to spend time to this problem, so I want to help. On the other hand, if Pulseaudio will be removed from 11.2, then nothing to do. Cheers, Tamas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknQ/XUACgkQsuVyj8v2Zy6NNwCeJ0H08VchhQRdJ+ZqWLt+shkC WGMAnRng4easETwfRx1jEaU6iKrDoZNF =JXaW -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 30 March 2009 12:12:26 pm Tamas Sarga wrote: ..
On the other hand, if Pulseaudio will be removed from 11.2, then nothing to do.
It would not be removed. This is discussion: https://features.opensuse.org/305888 Basic is, that until kernel or pulseaudio guys find solution, it will create problems. That is the reason for request to keep it in background, as an option for those willing to test it, but not to push it on every user. People with very new hardware may not experience problems, but that is approximately 30% of all opensuse users. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 30 March 2009 12:12:26 pm Tamas Sarga wrote: ..
On the other hand, if Pulseaudio will be removed from 11.2, then nothing to do.
It would not be removed. This is discussion: https://features.opensuse.org/305888
Basic is, that until kernel or pulseaudio guys find solution, it will create problems. That is the reason for request to keep it in background, as an option for those willing to test it, but not to push it on every user.
People with very new hardware may not experience problems, but that is approximately 30% of all opensuse users.
Thanks for the reply. I read the discussion what you mentioned and Disable PulseAudio by default thread on this list, but I don't understand, what do you mean, keep in background? It won't be started by default? If it starts, it couldn't be in background, because it makes Amarok (and every gstreamer apps), flash and maybe others mute. I have AMD 1800+ with 1G RAM and it didn't cause performance problems for me, so it is not only depends on pure hardware performance as I see. I will summarize the changes what are must to take to give sound to applications what I use, and try some others just for test (I'm under kde 4 stable), and create some kind of documentation. Than others can add his/her additions, than maybe testing and bugfixing will be easier a bit. Opinions, suggestions are welcome. Cheers, Tamas -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAknRGIkACgkQsuVyj8v2Zy5cagCfYdm/LWiPmlg49QOCC+2sGINn y1wAoJWuipAH1F94FMK5rmWlWdYxT6wb =ul3J -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
On Monday 30 March 2009 02:07:56 pm Tamas Sarga wrote:
Rajko M. wrote:
On Monday 30 March 2009 12:12:26 pm Tamas Sarga wrote: ..
On the other hand, if Pulseaudio will be removed from 11.2, then nothing to do.
It would not be removed. This is discussion: https://features.opensuse.org/305888
Basic is, that until kernel or pulseaudio guys find solution, it will create problems. That is the reason for request to keep it in background, as an option for those willing to test it, but not to push it on every user.
People with very new hardware may not experience problems, but that is approximately 30% of all opensuse users.
Thanks for the reply. I read the discussion what you mentioned and Disable PulseAudio by default thread on this list, but I don't understand, what do you mean, keep in background?
It was just figurative speech, meaning it should not be a front runner of multimedia.
It won't be started by default?
IMHO, it should not. It is not compatible with openSUSE kernel, according to pulseaudio developer: https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2009-February/003150....
If it starts, it couldn't be in background, because it makes Amarok (and every gstreamer apps), flash and maybe others mute. I have AMD 1800+ with 1G RAM and it didn't cause performance problems for me, so it is not only depends on pure hardware performance as I see.
I haven't seen general performace problems with a system. It just creates sound problems on systems that are not fast enough, like the one that I use most of the time. (it has a bigger screen)
I will summarize the changes what are must to take to give sound to applications what I use, and try some others just for test (I'm under kde 4 stable), and create some kind of documentation. Than others can add his/her additions, than maybe testing and bugfixing will be easier a bit. Opinions, suggestions are welcome.
You post that on opensuse wiki. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
Rajko M. escribió:
People with very new hardware may not experience problems, but that is approximately 30% of all opensuse users.
Where did you got that numbers ? -- "If this is the best God can do, I am not impressed" -George Carlin (1937-2008) Cristian Rodríguez R. Software Developer Platform/OpenSUSE - Core Services SUSE LINUX Products GmbH Research & Development http://www.opensuse.org/
On Monday 30 March 2009 02:25:37 pm Cristian Rodríguez wrote:
People with very new hardware may not experience problems, but that is approximately 30% of all opensuse users.
Where did you got that numbers ?
http://en.opensuse.org/statistics Table: Distribution of architecture I consider 64 bit hardware with installed 64 bit openSUSE able to handle sound without problems, at least I don't have any problems on 64 bit laptop running 11.1. -- Regards, Rajko -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help@opensuse.org
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Cristian Rodríguez
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Rajko M.
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Tamas Sarga