[opensuse-factory] Release candidates in Factory
Dear all, I would love to use Factory, since I like to get the latest and greatest software. Before coming to openSUSE, I was an ArchLinux user. The main reason for coming to openSUSE was the quest to get a system with recent but stable software. Now I would like to test Factory and I have enough Linux experience to deal with occasional issues, but what I have seen worries me: Factory currently offers a release candidate of the kernel (3.16.0-rc7). If Factory wants to stop being a development and test release, I think it is important to release only packages that have been declared stable by the upstream developers. Beta and RC are still testing versions and do not belong in a rolling release in my opinion. Kind regards, Erwin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 08.08.2014 12:39, Erwin Van de Velde wrote:
Dear all,
I would love to use Factory, since I like to get the latest and greatest software. Before coming to openSUSE, I was an ArchLinux user. The main reason for coming to openSUSE was the quest to get a system with recent but stable software. Now I would like to test Factory and I have enough Linux experience to deal with occasional issues, but what I have seen worries me:
Factory currently offers a release candidate of the kernel (3.16.0-rc7). If Factory wants to stop being a development and test release, I think it is important to release only packages that have been declared stable by the upstream developers. Beta and RC are still testing versions and do not belong in a rolling release in my opinion.
Kind regards, Erwin
See http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kernel/2014-08/msg00000.html Once 3.16 is out, we will stick to released versions Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday 08 August 2014 12:43:59 Stephan Kulow wrote:
See http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kernel/2014-08/msg00000.html
Once 3.16 is out, we will stick to released versions
Ah thanks Stephan, I can live with that :-) Kind regards, Erwin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 08.08.2014 13:22, Erwin Van de Velde wrote:
On Friday 08 August 2014 12:43:59 Stephan Kulow wrote:
See http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kernel/2014-08/msg00000.html
Once 3.16 is out, we will stick to released versions
Ah thanks Stephan, I can live with that :-)
I just noticed it is out already, so I submitted it for staging. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Am 08.08.2014 um 13:29 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
On 08.08.2014 13:22, Erwin Van de Velde wrote:
On Friday 08 August 2014 12:43:59 Stephan Kulow wrote:
See http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kernel/2014-08/msg00000.html
Once 3.16 is out, we will stick to released versions
Ah thanks Stephan, I can live with that :-)
I just noticed it is out already, so I submitted it for staging.
Does KDE also stick to released versions as KDE SC 4.14 is released? i am asking because KDE is actually with 4.13.80 also a RC version of 4.14 -- Michael Riess -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
Op vrijdag 8 augustus 2014 14:31:31 schreef Michael Riess:
Am 08.08.2014 um 13:29 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
On 08.08.2014 13:22, Erwin Van de Velde wrote:
On Friday 08 August 2014 12:43:59 Stephan Kulow wrote:
See http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kernel/2014-08/msg00000.html
Once 3.16 is out, we will stick to released versions
Ah thanks Stephan, I can live with that :-)
I just noticed it is out already, so I submitted it for staging.
Does KDE also stick to released versions as KDE SC 4.14 is released?
i am asking because KDE is actually with 4.13.80 also a RC version of 4.14
KMail in 4.13.80 gives me a lot of trouble and is not ready for normal use. Bug reports are upstream. -- fr.gr. Freek de Kruijf -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On Friday, August 08, 2014 10:41:14 PM Freek de Kruijf wrote:
Op vrijdag 8 augustus 2014 14:31:31 schreef Michael Riess:
Am 08.08.2014 um 13:29 schrieb Stephan Kulow:
On 08.08.2014 13:22, Erwin Van de Velde wrote:
On Friday 08 August 2014 12:43:59 Stephan Kulow wrote:
See http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kernel/2014-08/msg00000.html
Once 3.16 is out, we will stick to released versions
Ah thanks Stephan, I can live with that :-)
I just noticed it is out already, so I submitted it for staging.
Does KDE also stick to released versions
as KDE SC 4.14 is released?
i am asking
because KDE is actually with 4.13.80 also a RC version of 4.14
KMail in 4.13.80 gives me a lot of trouble and is not ready for normal use. Bug reports are upstream.
I'll second this. 4.13.80 is giving me problems, especial;ly multiple duplicates of emails already read and deleted. (POP3 & SMTP). I tried to ask a question yesterday on this mailing list but my access was denied because of RTP issue. Turns out 4.13.80 had set "Rich Text Editing on, so by default, email was rejected. I had this probablem with 4.13.3 orginally but it is corrected there. If this get thru I'll add to your bug if you will post the number. Russ -- openSUSE 13.1(Linux 3.11.10-17-desktop x86_64| Intel(R) Quad Core(TM) i5-4440 CPU @ 3.10GHz|8GB DDR3| GeForce 8400GS (NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-331.79)|KDE 4.13.3 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
On 08/08/14 11:43, Stephan Kulow wrote:
On 08.08.2014 12:39, Erwin Van de Velde wrote:
Dear all,
I would love to use Factory, since I like to get the latest and greatest software. Before coming to openSUSE, I was an ArchLinux user. The main reason for coming to openSUSE was the quest to get a system with recent but stable software. Now I would like to test Factory and I have enough Linux experience to deal with occasional issues, but what I have seen worries me:
Factory currently offers a release candidate of the kernel (3.16.0-rc7). If Factory wants to stop being a development and test release, I think it is important to release only packages that have been declared stable by the upstream developers. Beta and RC are still testing versions and do not belong in a rolling release in my opinion.
Kind regards, Erwin
See http://lists.opensuse.org/opensuse-kernel/2014-08/msg00000.html
Once 3.16 is out, we will stick to released versions
Greetings, Stephan
How do we catch and fix bugs in stable releases that have migrated from -rc revisions? I have hit bugs in -rc's that singularly impacted me and thankfully were fixed upstream well before the "stable" release, bugs that would not have been caught early. They do occur the other way round where there is a bug in the stable release that is fixed in the next -rc. Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Senior Staff Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner@opensuse.org
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