September 2012 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] factory iso images failing in VB
by Patrick Shanahan 28 Sep '12

28 Sep '12

I have setup a vb on my workstation to test factory/12.3. I downloaded factory iso NET images 26 and 27 and neither will complete the boot process. The graphic screen changes to partially black with boot messages and freezes. Booting the 12.2 (x86_64) NET install iso works and, after install, changing repos to factory oss and non-oss and performing zypper dup works. I trashed first 12.2 to factory effort and am presently reinstalling. After completion will snapshot failed NET-27 effort and make available. Is the boot failure of factory NET iso's common or do I have a probem particular to my system? Is more information needed first? -- (paka)Patrick Shanahan Plainfield, Indiana, USA HOG # US1244711 http://wahoo.no-ip.org Photo Album: http://wahoo.no-ip.org/gallery2 http://en.opensuse.org openSUSE Community Member Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://linuxcounter.net -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Fwd: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd 193 (jounal networking support)
by Frederic Crozat 28 Sep '12

28 Sep '12

Le vendredi 28 septembre 2012 à 17:26 +0200, Michael Schroeder a écrit : > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 01:49:07PM +0200, Michael Schroeder wrote: > > Ohhh, it turns out that the pretrans scripts are run *before* > > the file dispositions get calculated. This is so wrong. It means > > that the pretrans scripts still are run even if the transaction > > doesn't get run because of a file conflict. I'll ask rpm upstream > > if they really want to keep it that way... > > So I asked and Panu said it is done that way to fix up > directory <-> directory symlink replacements. Oh well... :) > Anyway, in that case (and if you really insist on that > /usr/lib migration) I'd change the %pretrans script to just > do a /usr/lib/udev -> /lib/udev symlink (only if /lib/udev exists and > /usr/lib/udev doesn't exist) and do the real move in the %pre > or %post section (both work). That way the %pretrans script can't do > much harm. Ok, I'll implement that. Thanks a lot for investigating this. -- Frederic Crozat <fcrozat(a)suse.com> SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Fwd: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd 193 (jounal networking support)
by Frederic Crozat 28 Sep '12

28 Sep '12

Le vendredi 28 septembre 2012 à 11:26 +0200, Michael Schroeder a écrit : > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:12:18AM +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: > > Le vendredi 28 septembre 2012 à 11:09 +0200, Michael Schroeder a écrit : > > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:03:00AM +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: > > > > Feel free to review my "work in progress" package in > > > > https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=systemd&project=home% > > > > 3Afcrozat%3Abranches%3ABase%3ASystem > > > > > > Ohhh, a %pretrans bash script. That can't work for initial installs, as > > > there is no bash. Basically all %pretrans scripts have to be written > > > in lua. > > > > Argg, I have this (and I have no lua knowledge, of course :( > > > > > Also, there really is no sane way to replace a directory by a link, > > > you'll completely confuse rpm's shared file/dir calculation (which > > > is done before the pretrans runs). I.e. rpm will remove the old > > > files from /lib/udev (thereby deleteing the new files because of > > > the symlink), as it doesn't see that files in /lib/udev and > > > /usr/lib/udev are shared. > > > > I've tested and it works fine, by "owning" and "ghosting" /lib/udev > > symlink in udev package (when the move is done), preventing file being > > removed. > > Hmm, I don't see how this can work. I'm talking about the files *in* > /lib/udev, e.g. /lib/udev/scsi_id. After an update /usr/lib/udev/scsi_id > should be gone, as rpm doesn't see that /lib/udev/scsi_id and > /usr/lib/udev/scsi_id are in the same location and thus deletes > /lib/udev/scsi_id when the old package is uninstalled. But it seems > that I'm overlooking something, as it works for you. I'll run some > tests... Well, I've done the tests with rpm 4.10 installed, so it might have helped. I ran rpm in "verbose mode" and it correctly "skipped" the files previous in /lib/udev/ (and now in /usr/lib/udev) from the "deleted" sequence, after %post is run. > > But if you really think it is a bad idea, I guess the move will need to > > be done in an initrd module (like Fedora did) :( > > I think for 12.2 we agreed to postpone directory moves after rpm has > learnt how to deal with them. There really is no rush, as the /usr move > has no real benefits (except making the layout a bit nicer). Yes, but I was talking about 12.3. I'll wait for your tests and I'll revert this part of my changes in systemd, if needed. -- Frederic Crozat <fcrozat(a)suse.com> SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] New develprj: devel:languages:haskell
by Peter Trommler 28 Sep '12

28 Sep '12

Dear OBS maintainers, I would like to ask for devel:languages:haskell to be added as a new develprj for Factory. The project will be used to develop * Haskell (https://features.opensuse.org/314446) and * pandoc (https://features.opensuse.org/312777) * and possibly more Herbert Graeber and I will act as maintainers. I have some very specific questions about bootstrapping the Haskell compiler in Factory on OBS. Who could help me out there? Peter -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Fwd: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd 193 (jounal networking support)
by Frederic Crozat 28 Sep '12

28 Sep '12

Le vendredi 28 septembre 2012 à 10:59 +0200, Michael Schroeder a écrit : > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:37:56AM +0200, Frederic Crozat wrote: > > I'm working on systemd 192 for Factory, but it is quite heavy (due to > > udev merge and moving to /usr). A staging repository has been created > > for it (openSUSE:Factory:systemd) and we will test it there before > > pushing to Factory. > > Huh, "moving to /usr"? How's systemd affected? Both udev and systemd will be located in /usr(/lib/udev,/lib/systemd).. I've taken care of creating compatibility symlinks at package upgrade time (and I have a pending patch for mkinitrd to handle udev rules properly). Feel free to review my "work in progress" package in https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=systemd&project=home% 3Afcrozat%3Abranches%3ABase%3ASystem -- Frederic Crozat <fcrozat(a)suse.com> SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: [opensuse-factory] Fwd: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] systemd 193 (jounal networking support)
by Frederic Crozat 28 Sep '12

28 Sep '12

Le vendredi 28 septembre 2012 à 11:09 +0200, Michael Schroeder a écrit : > On Fri, Sep 28, 2012 at 10:03:00AM +0100, Frederic Crozat wrote: > > Feel free to review my "work in progress" package in > > https://build.opensuse.org/package/show?package=systemd&project=home% > > 3Afcrozat%3Abranches%3ABase%3ASystem > > Ohhh, a %pretrans bash script. That can't work for initial installs, as > there is no bash. Basically all %pretrans scripts have to be written > in lua. Argg, I have this (and I have no lua knowledge, of course :( > Also, there really is no sane way to replace a directory by a link, > you'll completely confuse rpm's shared file/dir calculation (which > is done before the pretrans runs). I.e. rpm will remove the old > files from /lib/udev (thereby deleteing the new files because of > the symlink), as it doesn't see that files in /lib/udev and > /usr/lib/udev are shared. I've tested and it works fine, by "owning" and "ghosting" /lib/udev symlink in udev package (when the move is done), preventing file being removed. But if you really think it is a bad idea, I guess the move will need to be done in an initrd module (like Fedora did) :( -- Frederic Crozat <fcrozat(a)suse.com> SUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] ARM Chip
by gm1mqe＠aol.com 27 Sep '12

27 Sep '12

I have noticed a number of messages talking about ARM chips. Is there an ARM version of linux and if so does it support the Raspberry Pi system. Thanks, Andy -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Status: Distribution
by Stephan Kulow 26 Sep '12

26 Sep '12

Hi, I just commited kernel 3.6.0-rc7, so from now on I will only pick pieces to get a working Milestone0. Hopefully for next week. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Status: Factory
by Stephan Kulow 26 Sep '12

26 Sep '12

Hi, Please note that Mesa and XOrg were updated in factory and cause quite some fallout. Before that isn't sorted out, we can't take other packages. This was caused by some packages submitted by autosubmit and that didn't look that harmful. I talked with Stefan about it and we agreed that it's better to fix it in factory than to revert. Watch out. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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Re: /run/media/$USER (Re: [opensuse-factory] usb devices not showing in kde)
by "Stefan Brüns" 26 Sep '12

26 Sep '12

Am 09/21/12, schrieb Alin M Elena <alinm.elena(a)gmail.com>: > > I use Tumbleweed and lost auto-mounting although devices were recognized > > and announced sometime during 12.1, but it came back sometime between rc1 > > and rc2 and is still functioning as is expected (kde). > > just to be clear... the problem is not automount... I do not care and I do not > use it... the problem is that dolphin/device notifier do not present the usb > devices to be mounted.... the system at lower level sees them: (the only > exotic thing on this machine is the fact I installed 12.2 with lxdm and them > duped to factory and then installed kde --all clean confings) > > [alin@abbaton:~]: udisksctl monitor > Monitoring the udisks daemon. Press Ctrl+C to exit. > 09:11:15.286: The udisks-daemon is running (name-owner :1.80). > 09:11:17.178: Removed /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdc1 > 09:11:17.178: Removed /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/block_devices/sdc > 09:11:17.179: Removed > /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/Kingmax_USB2_2e0_FlashDisk_4000000009261 > 09:11:23.517: Added > /org/freedesktop/UDisks2/drives/Kingmax_USB2_2e0_FlashDisk_4000000009261 > org.freedesktop.UDisks2.Drive: This is udisks *2*, but KDE might still be using udisk *1*. The lowest level on the KDE side where you can check easily is "solid-hardware list", it should list all kind of hardware, including devices found through solids backend for udisks, at least the backend itself should be listed, e.g.: $> solid-hardware list ... udi = '/org/freedesktop/UDisks' udi = '/org/freedesktop/UDisks/devices/sda' ... I do not know if the solid UDisks2 backend is already stable and which backend KDE in 12.2 is using. If it is still using UDisks1, it might just not be installed (UDisks1 and UDisks2 can be installed and running side by side, according to its author). Regards, Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-factory+owner(a)opensuse.org

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