March 2009 - openSUSE Factory - openSUSE Mailing Lists

[opensuse-factory] pulseaudio and latency
by Per Osbäck 12 Mar '09

12 Mar '09

hi, there is a discussion on the pulseaudio-discuss list[1] about kernels and their latencies. apperently openSUSE seem to have the highest latency. is there a reason that the default kernel isn't geared towards low latency? ie HZ=1000 etc.. this seem to cause a lot of dropouts in pulseaudio for some users... regards, Per [1] https://tango.0pointer.de/pipermail/pulseaudio-discuss/2009-February/003150… -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Zypper ignoring factory packages...
by Jason Boissiere 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

I've just been backleveled to 11.1 from factory by a lack of attention while running "zypper -n dup -l". Investigation suggests the factory repo is being treated as empty by zypper: root[pts/5]@boija02-745 15:16:19 :) 0 /root/factory_zypp # zypper lr -u|awk '/openSUSE111/||/factory\// {print $3,$10,$11}' factory | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/oss factory_debug | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/debug/ factory_nonoss | http://download.opensuse.org/factory/repo/non-oss/ openSUSE111 | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/oss openSUSE111_nonfree | http://download.opensuse.org/distribution/11.1/repo/non-oss openSUSE111_update | http://download.opensuse.org/update/11.1 root[pts/5]@boija02-745 15:07:23 :) 0 /root/factory_zypp # zypper se -r openSUSE111|wc -l 7558 root[pts/5]@boija02-745 15:07:28 :) 0 /root/factory_zypp # zypper se -r factory| wc -l 6 root[pts/5]@boija02-745 15:07:39 :) 0 /root/factory_zypp # zypper se -r factory Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... S | Name | Summary | Type --+----------+----------+-------- i | openSUSE | openSUSE | product root[pts/5]@boija02-745 15:08:06 :( 104 /root/factory_zypp # zypper in -D -r factory -t product openSUSE Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Resolving package dependencies... Problem: rpm-4.4.2.3-20.1.i586 requires permissions, but this requirement cannot be provided deleted providers: permissions-2008.11.25-1.5.i586[@System] Solution 1: do not ask to install a solvable providing product:openSUSE > 11.1-0 Solution 2: ignore some dependencies of rpm Choose from above solutions by number or cancel [1/2/C]: 2 Resolving dependencies... Resolving package dependencies... The following product is going to be upgraded: openSUSE The following packages are going to be REMOVED: ConsoleKit ConsoleKit-x11 FreeNX MPlayer ModemManager MozillaFirefox <SNIP> ALL MY PACKAGES </SNIP> ypbind zisofs-tools zypper After the operation, 2.0 GiB will be freed. Continue? [Y/?]: n I've manually installed the factory package tools, but that just means zypper wants to revert them: root[pts/5]@boija02-745 15:08:31 :) 0 /root/factory_zypp # zypper dup -D Loading repository data... Reading installed packages... Computing distribution upgrade... The following packages are going to be downgraded: PackageKit PackageKit-lang aria2 boost-license gnome-packagekit gnome-packagekit-lang libqdialogsolver1 libzypp satsolver-tools yast2-gtk yast2-libyui yast2-ncurses yast2-ncurses-pkg yast2-pkg-bindings yast2-qt-pkg zypper The following NEW packages are going to be installed: libboost_signals1_36_0 libpackagekit-glib10 The following package is going to be REMOVED: libpackagekit-glib11 The following packages are going to change vendor: PackageKit PackageKit-lang gnome-packagekit gnome-packagekit-lang libqdialogsolver1 libzypp satsolver-tools yast2-gtk yast2-ncurses-pkg yast2-pkg-bindings yast2-qt-pkg zypper Overall download size: 7.9 MiB. After the operation, 843.0 KiB will be freed. Continue? [YES/no]: Manually fetching packages works fine, so I assume this is a meta-data problem, either on my system, or on the servers. Any ideas? Jason -- Jason Boissiere Senior Quality Assurance Engineer Ingres Europe Limited jason.boissiere(a)ingres.com PHONE +44 01753 559529 www.ingres.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] cloning a hard drive with YaST
by Sid Boyce 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

Problem, I have a xfs 1TB hard drive with badblocks (/dev/sda1) and would like to clone it to another 1TB drive (/dev/sdc1), /dev/sdc is already partitioned and mkfs.xfs run. I've tried rsync, that didn't do it properly. Next I copied all the data across, but it gets confused on boot with the different namings in /dev/disk/by-id/ and what was copied across in /etc/fstab and the stuff in /etc/grub/. YaST in 11.2 Alpha0 doesn't now have an entry for cloning a system that I can identify. What's recommended? Regards Sid. -- Sid Boyce ... Hamradio License G3VBV, Licensed Private Pilot Emeritus IBM/Amdahl Mainframes and Sun/Fujitsu Servers Tech Support Specialist, Cricket Coach Microsoft Windows Free Zone - Linux used for all Computing Tasks -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] main download.opensuse.org down? (mirrorbrain) outage?
by cagsm 11 Mar '09

11 Mar '09

doesnt answer at all atm 4me. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Unable to install/update FF in 11.1 86_64.
by M9. 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 @wolfgang, I am not able to install FF, so i do not have bookmarks or passwords. This is the error message: Subprocess failed. Error: RPM is mislukt: Usage: usr/bin/update-mime-database [-hvV] MIME-DIR No directories in update-desktop-database search path could be processed and updated. error: %postun(MozillaFirefox-2.0.0.12-5.1.x86_64) scriptlet failed, exit status 1 Probably you know what to do about this? - -- Have a nice day, M9. Now, is the only time that exists. OS: Linux 2.6.27.19-3.2-default x86_64 Huidige gebruiker: monkey9@AMD64x2-sfn1 Systeem: openSUSE 11.1 (x86_64) KDE: 4.1.3 (KDE 4.1.3) "release 4.9" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkm1Wz4ACgkQX5/X5X6LpDj5QwCeJ12KiqkvMuLz2zJu1SVVWD5W GPQAn1xvQ8lxhOiVDjbT0IKcudkxG9PD =rPhC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Fwd: Re: [opensuse-buildservice] bug/feature request in/for installer image
by Christof Hanke 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

Hello list, that's my first post here, so please bear with me... Adrian suggested I might discuss about the attached problem here. I guess I can try to reproduce it if that's desired. Thanks, Christof

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Antw: [opensuse-factory] kernel 2.6.27.19-3.2-default breaks ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.582
by Stefan Kunze 10 Mar '09

10 Mar '09

>>> "Christoph-Erdmann Pfeiler" <Christoph-Erdmann.Pfeiler(a)gmx.de> 09.03.09 7.50 Uhr >>> Gentle readers, I've observed the phenomenon "kernel 2.6.27.19-3.2-default breaks ATI Proprietary Linux Driver-8.582" on two different systems. Both are running SuSE 11.1 with current kernel update. Before the kernel update, both systems worked flawlessly on the video side. .... trimmed <<< Hi Christoph, the description of the Kernel Update said that this kernel Update breaks KABI (which means all external Kernelmodule) . According to the description it was necessary to create compatibility between Opensuse 11.1 and SLE 11 (they at the same Kernelversion now) Thisshould not happen again. as far as I am aware there is no updated proprietary ATI driver yet. (Nvidia provided one the day of the Kernelupdate over a week ago) best regards Stefan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Fw: Evaluation Partitioner/Grub.
by M9. 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 *From:* Oddball <mailto:monkey9@iae.nl> *Sent:* Monday, March 09, 2009 11:52 AM *To:* opensuse-factory(a)opensuse.org <mailto:opensuse-factory@opensuse.org> *Subject:* Evaluation Partitioner/Grub. Hi, This might seem much to read, so if you are not realy interrested in the subject, please skip. I write this, because it takes much time to set up dual, triple, quadruple or more boot, and it would be nice if it could be set up, and worked when done. Also, these set-ups are not made daily, and, they are supposed to be useable for a longer period of time. When starting to create such set-ups, it does not matter, that it takes time to do so, but that it can be done. So, when done setting up, one is not pleased to see some bugs, just there, so the whole set-up is unuseable. There was a discussion once about how to boot multiple os, without new kernel installs messing up grub, and making everything unbootable, but i could not find it. A construction with a seperate small partition with bootloader, only pointing to /boot directories of the individual systems, or something. Helas i forgot the exact set-up. If someone reminds, please reakt.. As i was aiming to install opensuse on an EEE-PC 901, i was confronted with partitioner and grub again, so time to share my thoughts. Partitioner looks much nicer, but has not become more simple to use. For this part, there should be an adequate helpfile to be able to get things done that have to be done. EEE-PC 901 comes with windows XP-pre-installed, and a Norton Ghost-image to restore the install. Ofcourse this kind of install blows all away, as it formats first, and than installs the image. It is a DVD, so one needs an USB-DVD Drive to use it. As i wrecked the xp install after a few days, i had no alternative, as to buy one, for i could not use windows to do anything. So i tried the 'restore' facility first, to see how and what. In 901, there is a bios option called 'bootbooster'. The only thing it does as i notice, is skipp the windows to enter the bios and detection of hw. Also, when enabled, the boot option screen cannot be entered, and it boots imediately into windows, so it has to be disabled, before one is able to perform restore or intallation tasks. Windows just is not my thing, but has all the options, as hotkeys, and tray-shifting apps working just fine. And it looks very smooth, on this small screen with large resolution: 1024x600. That makes it look like a fullgrown laptop. Someway, i just like to have more OS on a system, to choose from, it makes things look more complete, and the idea of having a choice, allways makes me feel better. Than i looked for ready to install Linux-OS. There are, Xandros, with a new beta, eeebuntu, and: opensuse. After some difficulties getting it, slow server, dying download, someone send me a dvd with the new Xandros beta on it. It works just like the asus-restore when booted from dvd: all blown away, no options where to install: no partitioner: only option to choose model, language and keyboard. Windows gone: only Xandros, buth with Asus support. - From the start i did not like it. Too simple, like for children or older people, that have to learn how to use a pc: Hidden rootfile-system, no /home. So not my thing also... eeebuntu would take me about 3 and a half hour to download, with 73-83Kb/s, option skipped. As i had the USB-DVD-Drive, and the openSuSE 11.1 installation DVD, i was ready to go. At this point, the partitioner makes ready to enter the stage. I realy enjoyed to watch the distinguished installer gui on this small screen: Looks realy beautifull, Fonts just big enough, not too big, very readable, all giving the illusion of space, much room, air to breath.. First the hw-detection and loading of the installer are very nice to see.. At this place i would like to thank those who did the job to be able to 'just' install onto an eee-pc. Taking care of the kernel modules allready onboard of the 11.1 installation DVD. All these things had to be done to make it work, and it does. The Partitioner. The default proposition, is using the ssd, and shrink windows to using half of it. I wanted to install on the sd. It is not simple to manualy configure what i want: primary, extended, fs. One has to be realy in it to remember: Do i need a primary here? Or can extended be ok? ( i recalled one time an os did not boot not being on the primary partition..but now i have on my pc's bootable partitions on the extended partition..) I went back to retry several times, did not overcome the problems without becoming very excited, too many questions, and i wanted to go on, so i choose to accept the default proposition: Shrink windows, and install on the ssd. Here i forgot to unmark the autoconfig option, because of going back and starting over it was marked again, and i did not notice. So i ended up with a hostname that i did not want, networkmanager that wasn't able to do the job, and an unbootable windows partition. (hd0,0) chainloader +1 ??? In other words: I was f****ed! openSuSE worked fine: installrepos allready configured, and after i changed to ifup, wifi worked, and i could upgrade. First 2 nessary, nicely selected, after that all the others, which brought me the fonts i needed, so it became acceptable to look upon. After the upgrade, the wireless network was gone again. I was not pleased, but changed to networkmanager, that still did not work, and back to ifup, and it worked again. These things are realy not nice. They can work, so they should. It must not be nessesary to manualy configure these things, again and again, in these days. As i had no usb-floppy-drive, to use fdisk to mbr back to windows, and install grub again, i thought: maybe the restore dvd does not erase the linux partitions: Wrong! It did. Now i was going to try my original idea: opensuse on the sd. I used an 8GB sandisk ultra II sd, as xtremeIII seemed to be to fast for the 901, according to somebody that tried that, as on the inside the sd reader goes through the usb 2.0, it cannot have the xtreme speed. OK. I decided to choose the default proposition the partitioner suggested: swap 1.47GB, (windows uses this amount also on the ssd) / 5GB, and /home around 995MB. Small, but it was a test anyway. It installs, but very very slow, and becomes even slower along the proces. The performance is alike, too slow, so i would not advise anyone else to try this also. (as i probably will go for opensuse 11.1, update to aqs far we can, with KDE4.2. Alone on the ssd. As that was not even sluggish when performing on the ssd, next to XP.) Grub. As the sd is an external drive, as usb-stick. The drive letter changes when fi an usb stick is not in the slot. The default here auto grub install, to install in mbr. As i noticed when checked. Now comes the problem: Only in the same config as the install was made the system boots. Were to put Grub? I wanted to put it on the sdcard, with the idea that if it would not be in the drive, it would automaticly boot windows. Because bios is set to boot from external devices first. It is very difficult to decide were it should go: sdc1, sdc2 or sdc3, because it sees the partitions: swap, /, and /home. The gui is very complicated, and maybe it is the dutch translation, but it is not obvious what to choose. I think, if one is forced to make the right decision, or else the system fails to boot, one should be able to do that, as one gets only one chance. Wrong decision, is unbootable system. My decision was not correct, but a black grub screen still enables me too choose, but only if all is the same as during the install. My wish was: to have adequate help on the place one needs it, and if it is there, it is understandable, and it works, but on the first place: Easy to use interface, with understandable choices! Partitioner. When in installer mode, no problem to make changes that concern changing partitionsizes. What about moving? A useable partitioner would be like partition magic. All real changes are performed before boot, when nothing is mounted. A gui, very visual, lets you make every change you want, and shows you how you want it: Resize, Move, delete create, some of these things are set in motion, only after the system is umounted ofcourse, so a batch file is created, which performs all the changes, one by one, before boottime, when nothing is mounted, will this not be possible to have in opensuse someday? Apart from some 'bugs', the partitioner is far more difficult to use than the old one. But i guess, nothing is finished imediately. The changes are created, now make them work right. Partitioner and Bootloader are most important, as they provide the opportunity to have more than one OS, or fs on one hw-system. One must have a secure feeling with them, and able to communicate in an understandable 'language'. Intuitivity would be inplace here, just like a depsolver, helping the user make the right decision. As computing power is available at this stage, it should be possible to use it to 'look ahead' when a decision is made, without performing it, to enable the user to make the right one, by proposing, as it works now, but more advanced? More than one possible scenario's that would work could be proposed, in advanced mode? Like an automatic simple mode, and an advanced multiple scenarios mode. And ofcourse, the bootloader should be placed on the right place! (unless one would be able to understand the options of it, than it would be obvious.) Or is that too much asked? Like when there are several drives, but every seperate one is too small, to bare a complete os with /home, like with the new eee-pc's. They have many opportunities: SSD, SD, 3xUSB 2.0, To propose to have only /home on an inserted 8GB Stick? The latter are just thoughts, to inspire, nothing more.. my 2cts. Oddball, from a ravaged eee-pc 901... -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.9 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with SUSE - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkm1NXgACgkQX5/X5X6LpDi95ACgjx/pfGdhLP8bKQpykTrmysm+ hWwAoL552+3hk1Lwi4vYYexK480HBG/B =/PXS -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] NET isos
by Stephan Kulow 09 Mar '09

09 Mar '09

Hi, Just wanted to tell: the generic problems with the NET isos are gone. You should be able to file more concrete problems now :) I'm still fighting with the live ISOs though. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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[opensuse-factory] Status Live ISOs
by Stephan Kulow 07 Mar '09

07 Mar '09

Hi, As we still don't have a kernel in Factory with the fix for aufs, I tried to use unionfs-fuse for our live cds and it almost works. So factory/iso now has build11 for the 4 live cds, but they can't start dbus as the unix domain socket can't be created. If someone wants to experiment, the ISOs are up. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-factory+unsubscribe(a)opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-factory+help(a)opensuse.org

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