Hi, With an X server running on a Win32 machine, it's possible to run X applications (e.g. on Linux) and have them sent over the network to appear on the Win32 machine. However, has anybody tried the other way around -- having Windows applications appearing on a Linux desktop, the Windows applications all being run through a specific Windows (NT) based application server? Cheers, Chris Howells
Hi Chris, On Thursday 01 January 1970 1:00 am, Chris Howells wrote:
Hi,
With an X server running on a Win32 machine, it's possible to run X applications (e.g. on Linux) and have them sent over the network to appear on the Win32 machine.
However, has anybody tried the other way around -- having Windows applications appearing on a Linux desktop, the Windows applications all being run through a specific Windows (NT) based application server?
What do you mean by application server? Do you mean in the Citrix/thin-client way, or do you just mean an NT box running an application. If you mean the former, then I believe that there are Linux Ctrix clients as well as for other thin-client methods. I've never looked at this myself as we don't run NT (except to control a network aware photocopier that never sees the network). If you mean the latter then have a look at VNC. VNC is a free cross-platform remote-access tool ala PC Anywhere. I personally use this from my Linux workstation to remotely support 100+ Win9x PC's over two sites.
Cheers, Chris Howells
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There is a thing called xwinx, which might be what you're looking for. -- ------------------- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ------------------ 020 8387 1482 ------------------ roger@suse.co.uk ------------------
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Roger Whittaker wrote:
There is a thing called xwinx, which might be what you're looking for.
Thanks, Roger - I hadn't come across that one before! Another way to do it is to use rdesktop and NT4 Terminal Server (or Win2000 Terminal Services). I have found it easy to use rdesktop to log in to a Win2000 server some 50 miles away, across the Internet and with 512K connections at each end. It will certainly work with the bandwidth available in a LAN. Michael
On Thursday 07 February 2002 01:25, Michael Brown wrote:
On Wed, 6 Feb 2002, Roger Whittaker wrote:
There is a thing called xwinx, which might be what you're looking for.
Thanks, Roger - I hadn't come across that one before!
Another way to do it is to use rdesktop and NT4 Terminal Server (or Win2000 Terminal Services). I have found it easy to use rdesktop to log in to a Win2000 server some 50 miles away, across the Internet and with 512K connections at each end. It will certainly work with the bandwidth available in a LAN.
How good is rdesktop with sound etc? Seems to me that a good stop gap might be to have a Windows terminal server to run "essential" windows educational software. I'll look into the prices of client access licences but it would be a lot cheaper than buying Windows XP at well over £100 on each machine. Its probably cheaper on a large site to buy Citrix licences than to put Windows on every machine. Need to know the limitations of terminal services with popular education titles and of course if they run under WINE anyway that would be better. Snag is in testing all these. We need a knowledge base on what does and doesn't work. Regards, -- IanL
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Thursday 07 February 2002 8:46 am, Ian wrote:
How good is rdesktop with sound etc? Seems to me that a good stop gap might be to have a Windows terminal server to run "essential" windows educational software. I'll look into the prices of client access licences but it would be a lot cheaper than buying Windows XP at well over £100 on each machine.
Yes, this is exactly why I was interested in it. For a school migrating from Windows to Linux, the office software side of things is pretty much covered by KOffice/Open Office which will run natively, and do a pretty damn good job of opening MS Office files. However, this leads to the problem of how to run all the education software like science revisision programs, a few multimedia encyclopedias, etc. If you could just run directly from the X a Windows application that would appear and be window manager managed (using a windows based terminal server to execute the apps) this would go a long way to alleviating the problems :) - -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@chrishowells.co.uk, howells@kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP key: http://chrishowells.co.uk/pgp.txt KDE: http://www.koffice.org, http://edu.kde.org, http://usability.kde.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Yu4qF8Iu1zN5WiwRAiwTAJ9L7UFVgEkTv0gb2/skkdAavqO0WgCbBWXc H28jhuJlBZcijKVOa8fJVOA= =YX4Q -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 On Wednesday 06 February 2002 5:47 pm, Roger Whittaker wrote:
There is a thing called xwinx, which might be what you're looking for.
That looks very interesting, thanks :) - -- Cheers, Chris Howells -- chris@chrishowells.co.uk, howells@kde.org Web: http://chrishowells.co.uk, PGP key: http://chrishowells.co.uk/pgp.txt KDE: http://www.koffice.org, http://edu.kde.org, http://usability.kde.org -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE8Yu1XF8Iu1zN5WiwRAiVdAJ0WTIohFZOlJCE6uwCCeMZBb6CszQCeP68X KsN30HaU211itVZfUMxFTgY= =psDF -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Hi,
With an X server running on a Win32 machine, it's possible to run X applications (e.g. on Linux) and have them sent over the network to appear on the Win32 machine.
Fensystems had a Windows machine running in this way at Bett.
However, has anybody tried the other way around -- having Windows applications appearing on a Linux desktop, the Windows applications all being run through a specific Windows (NT) based application server?
Either way you get the hassle of multiple logins. Easier IMHO to use Win4Lin (possibly alternativly VMware, but Win4Lin using regular files and not disk images makes some things a lot easier) to provide the support for Windows apps. Not only does this avoid separate logins but also means that Windows isn't being asked to cope with multiple user handing. Something which IME it does poorly. My only problem was failing to spec sufficent RAM to handle a class of 30 machines. -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763
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