Why would you want to compile a FTP server into the kernel. I have never heard of anybody doing that before. Me neither and I am only passing on what was asked of me. I have some reasonable experience of Linux as I have been using it for 6 years, but I would not call myself an expert. The guys in Tech support have used the

On Thursday 27 Nov 2003 7:58 pm, you wrote: linux kernel and lilo for 3-4 years as part of Novell but know little of Linux. I think (from what they have said to me) they would like to have a custom kernel that has tftp capabilities so that when they go to remote schools to do the never ending M$ updates, they can boot the linux kernel and download a new partition of changes. The linux kernel is unaffected and they can then ghost the machine and pump it out to all the others on site usig Zend. As I said earlier, I hope this is a temprorary measure as I will eliminate M$ from the school as soon as I can.

There is a multitude of FTP servers available for Linux. proFTP is the easiest the setup. If you can set up Apache you can set up proFTP, since the config files are almost identical. pureFTP is the most secure, so the choice is yours

Regards John

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Hi all:

If I can divert your energies for a moment from an excellent debate. It relates only slightly tenuously off topic (since SuSE/SUSE is now SuSELL). At my current school they are Novell-o-philes and use a Linux partition on every machine to deliver a customised M$ partition (I am, with the support

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most at the school, trialling thin client to get rid of M$

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this space). However, they would like to modify the 2.4.18 kernel they

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so that it can run a tftp server so that they can load some new files onto one machine locally and then push it out to all at the site. We have

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over the LEA support contract for 8 local promaries and hope to get more. All of them use OO. Since they are familiar now, they will have none of

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objections cited by other writers on this list from parents. The battle needs to be started at an earlier stage and primaries I think are much

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recipient to the get rid of M$ argument. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how this might be done? I know

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tftp as a client sits in the sbin or bin, but we need a tftp server. I

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recompilled a kernel a few times before with pretty guis but have not

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at the command line. Paul

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this space). However, they would like to modify the 2.4.18 kernel they use so that it can run a tftp server so that they can load some new files onto

Are you sure you mean tftp? I wasn't really sure what I meant at the time but have a better idea now, I

On Saturday 29 Nov 2003 11:52 am, you wrote: think. The network manager is very good with Novel and has been using it for years. Part of the Novel kit is a customised linux distro which is used to deploy ghosted partitions across a network. They use a customised linux distro to partition a new computer with 100MB for the linux distro and xGB for the doze one. They boot into the linux partition and run a customised lilo which sets up the device to contact the Novel server which then dumps a doze ghost onto the machine. They then boot all other machines in the classroom to use this as the master and copy a "working" XP onto all the machines. This all works well but it is dependent on being part of the same network. The school maintains 8 primaries locally so they have to go out and do the process machine by machie with the existing setup. They have no knowledge of linux other than a few commands they use at the bash shell with the customised distro they use with Novel. I assume they would like to have tftp or ftp as part of the distro (they said kernel but now I know they meant distro). That way, they could take all the multitude of patches for xp on a cd with the linuc distro and then reload all the machines on site with the nnew "improved" version of xp. Does that make more sense? As I said, I am working in the background to get ltsp working, with the network manager's support, but I have a full teaching load so it will not be tomorrow.

This is really quite a horrible protocol, and only ever really used for transferring files when netbooting. Also, there is no point modifying the kernel to do this - you can get the userland tftp server as an RPM.

FTP is still better to do this - there are plenty of FTP servers around (don't use wu-ftpd; it's full of security holes; I'm a happy user of vsftpd).

I will try this out, thanks

Dan Paul

On Sat, 2003-11-29 at 13:53, Darren Smith wrote:

Firstly appols for drifting off topic but I think you may be interested in this ....

http://www.thekjs.essex.sch.uk/yates/images/pic.jpg

Basically for every 2 openoffice.org CDs they sell they will donate 1 copy to Malaysia to help improve the kids education over there which is all very nice. They only cost 2 quid each and p&p is the cost of a first class stamp for 1-5 CDs, 2xFCS for 6-10 CDs and then waived for 10+.

If you wish to order or have further questions then his email address is pburgess@wilmslowhigh.cheshire.sch.uk

The CDs contain windows, linux and solaris versions of openoffice.org 1.1 and there is spare capacity for anything you want really. He can add curriculum resources if you are a teacher and are passing / selling these Cds on to kids.

I have no affiliation with this project or the school or the teacher other than I think it deserves to be supported :-)

There is also a project to get OO.o discs into libraries so that people can borrow them, copy them or install them. I think every library in Scotland now has an OO.o disc courtesy of ob Kerr who is running the project. He has sent me quite a few discs in nicely produced DVD cases. If anyone wants one to put in their school library let me know and I'll send one. Its entirely free. -- ian