Does anyone know how to set up an HP LasetJet (with a TCP/IP) to be used on the Intranet?
Don't know the details, but typically, these are configured using things like : 1. Web interface (assumes a working IP in the first place of course) 2. Bootp/Rarp type system 3. Some clever poking about with arp and ping These are some of the techniques used - I don't know about this specific machine.
I have printed out the menu and it says that it is 192.0.0.192 but there is no way to get at it to change the settings. I have plugged in a patch lead and tried to ping the thing.
This will only work if you other machines are configured to be on the same IP network (in terms of network numbers) - ie have IP addresses numbered in the same range : 192.0.0.X with the same subnet mask. Are they ? Does the ping work (I assume not ;-) Kevin.
Which model of Laserjet is it? If you go through the control panel you normally find a network option and can configure the IP address manually. Not sure if there's a Linux version of the Jetdirect software - generally that can do all this configuration remotely - without using an IP address. Cheers, Matt
-----Original Message----- From: kevin.taylor@powerconv.alstom.com [mailto:kevin.taylor@powerconv.alstom.com] Sent: 11 October 2000 09:43 To: SuSE UK Schools Forum Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] LaserJets
Does anyone know how to set up an HP LasetJet (with a TCP/IP) to be used on the Intranet?
Don't know the details, but typically, these are configured using things like : 1. Web interface (assumes a working IP in the first place of course) 2. Bootp/Rarp type system 3. Some clever poking about with arp and ping
These are some of the techniques used - I don't know about this specific machine.
I have printed out the menu and it says that it is 192.0.0.192 but there is no way to get at it to change the settings. I have plugged in a patch lead and tried to ping the thing.
This will only work if you other machines are configured to be on the same IP network (in terms of network numbers) - ie have IP addresses numbered in the same range : 192.0.0.X with the same subnet mask.
Are they ? Does the ping work (I assume not ;-)
Kevin.
Hi, Speaking from experience a couple of years ago, and please excuse me contributing to a vaguely off-topic thread:
Does anyone know how to set up an HP LasetJet (with a TCP/IP) to be used on the Intranet?
As someone else stated, use the "Control Panel", i.e. the physical buttons on the printer itself, to set up the correct IP address.
Don't know the details, but typically, these are configured using things like : 1. Web interface (assumes a working IP in the first place of course) 2. Bootp/Rarp type system 3. Some clever poking about with arp and ping
These are some of the techniques used - I don't know about this specific machine.
I have printed out the menu and it says that it is 192.0.0.192 but there is no way to get at it to change the settings. I have plugged in a patch lead and tried to ping the thing.
Excuse the obvious question, but have you tried connecting the printer directly to a PC using a cross-over cable?
This will only work if you other machines are configured to be on the same IP network (in terms of network numbers) - ie have IP addresses numbered in the same range : 192.0.0.X with the same subnet mask.
That's a very good point, check the subnet mask of the printer compared to the boxes you're trying to ping it from and ensure they match. -- warnendes warnendes dieser Programmsatz bedeutet nicht nichts Sent through GMX FreeMail - http://www.gmx.net
Hi all, I am the Network Administartor for a large 1500 user network, and next september I will be taking over two new IT suites. These have yet to be filled, and I would like to do it as cheaply as possible, whilst keeping security and stability high. How feasible do you think it is, and am I creating to much work by switching from NT4.0 to SuSE 7.0? Robb Bloomfield
Robb The Royal Latin School wrote:
I am the Network Administartor for a large 1500 user network, and next september I will be taking over two new IT suites. These have yet to be filled, and I would like to do it as cheaply as possible, whilst keeping security and stability high. How feasible do you think it is, and am I creating to much work by switching from NT4.0 to SuSE 7.0?
Questions of this sort are always difficult to answer but I'll try one of my own simplistic answers in the hope that it might help. Certainly creating 1500 users on an SuSE Linux box is not easy but there might be a quick and easy way of doing this if you think about it. The one outstanding thing about Linux when you compare it with NT4 is it's stability. Instead of spending Sunday afternoons at your school or IT centre you can sit at home and enjoy the Sunday roast - of course you might be a vegetarian ? In that case you might enjoy sorting out the garden :) Another issue might be one of internal security. Apache can be used internally for controlled data access. Apache is difficult to learn at first but there are plenty of good Wrox and O'Reilly books out there that help you to do something quickly. There are other network utilities that help the administrator to keep things rolling when NT 4 would have crashed and would be in need of re-installation. Most of the people I've seen who migrated their network from NT4 to Linux did so with either a dual boot machine or a new box that they either bought at a PC shop along the road or they built it themselves. Of course, Roger is very good at giving advice about all aspects of Linux in schools :) Thanks -- Richard Sheffield Linux User's Group www.sheflug.co.uk
I am the Network Administartor for a large 1500 user network, and next september I will be taking over two new IT suites. These have yet to be filled, and I would like to do it as cheaply as possible, whilst keeping security and stability high. How feasible do you think it is, and am I creating to much work by switching from NT4.0 to SuSE 7.0?
Certainly creating 1500 users on an SuSE Linux box is not easy
It is, really. There must be a textfile way of doing it. Our "adduser" command used to have a "-batch" option, and after experimentation I worked out the appropriate syntax and each year have manipulated a CSV export from our school's Squirrel database to add new users. Our new version of "adduser", for silly security reasons, forbids this and forces us to use "pw" instead, different format but not much a problem except "for security reasons" it won't accept plaintext passwords, insists on generating its own. Either way, it's easy to generate 1500 users once you have worked out the batch file format that is required. Manipulating the CSV format into pw format is quite fun, a lot of swopping between global replaces in a text editor and column exchanging/insertion etc in a spreadsheet.
Instead of spending Sunday afternoons at your school or IT centre you can sit at home and
... work out what the man pages actually mean. Overall, so long as you have access to a guru, you will end up with a much more powerful system and, if you've budgeted for NT, a lot of spare cash. -- Christopher Dawkins, Felsted School, Dunmow, Essex CM6 3JG 01371-820527 or 07798 636725 cchd@felsted.essex.sch.uk
Certainly creating 1500 users on an SuSE Linux box is not easy but there might be a quick and easy way of doing this if you think about it. The one outstanding thing about Linux when you compare it with
It's actually a fairly trivial piece of programming (in C, Perl, whatever) to convert a CSV file into suitabe bits to add to /etc/passwd, /etc/shadow, /etc/group... One you have got something which suits your school it will do 15, 1,500 or 15,000
NT4 is it's stability. Instead of spending Sunday afternoons at your school or IT centre you can sit at home and enjoy the Sunday roast - of course you might be a vegetarian ? In that case you might enjoy sorting out the garden :)
Another issue might be one of internal security. Apache can be used internally for controlled data access. Apache is difficult to learn at first but there are plenty of good Wrox and O'Reilly books out there that help you to do something quickly.
One problem with the "Windows approach" is that it ignores that you cannot simplify things which are fundermentaly complex. Access control, on anything other than the most trivial of networks, is non simple. "Wizards" might do "magic" but unless you are a "magician" yourself you are going to be left high and dry when they fail. -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763
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