Problems with domain names
Slight problem here.... Not to be awkward but the web addresses www.osie.org.uk or www.osie.org. are not accessable to anyone using the N2H2 BESS filtering system. Alan ----------------------------------------------------- Alan Harris Network Manager Bryngwyn School Tel : 01554 750661 Fax : 01554 758255 E-mail: alanh@bryngwyn.carmarthen.sch ----------------------------------------------------- Notes: 1. The contents of this email may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown purposes! Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000. 2. The opinions expressed in this email are personal and may not be shared by Bryngwyn School. -----------------------------------------------------
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Alan Harris wrote:
Slight problem here.... Not to be awkward but the web addresses www.osie.org.uk or www.osie.org. are not accessable to anyone using the N2H2 BESS filtering system.
What type of filtering system is this? If it works in the sensible way (allowing everything except selected undesirable content), then what is it choking on (i.e. what's the message that comes up when you try to access it)? [If it's one of those (IMO absurd) "approved content only" ones, then I assume it's up to the people using it to add 'holes' where appropriate.] Michael
This is definitely a spur to get me involved again. I will answer Alan's issue first and then try to add my 2p to the osie initiative. The bess N2H2 filtering system is a blacklist proxy (with a few enhancements) based on squid running under debian - 1.3 in our case. It is provided as a service by N2H2 who provide a nightly update of the database. The blacklist is categorised so that only the categories required are blocked. It is provided here as a service to all the scholls in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. I suspect that the reason that the osie site is blocked is that the hosting site uk2.net provides webmail aka hotmail. The fensystems site it is redirected is blocked because it comes up as part of freeserve which is automatically blocked en-masse, like geocities etc. I can arrange for it to be unblocked, but we do need to decide where it is going to be and under what umbrella. There was talk of UKUUG providing space, and phil hands also offered (under debian?). I have finally managed to skim through all the flood of mail we set loose last week. I agree it is time we moved this list somewhere else and let Roger's list get back to work. I don't mind where it is except that it would be better if everything to with this new initiative was hosted somewhere neutral. Sourceforge would be fine, or UKUUG if they were interested and had the facilities easily available. I suggest that we give averybody say 24 hours to object or suggest something better and then Michael can set us up on his sourceforge osie list. That should either get me burned or get a decision made :-) I will send this now and follow up shortly with some more detail ablout me and my thoughts on osie ____________________________________ Giles Nunn - Network Manager Carms Schools ICT Development Centre Tel: +44 01239 710662 Fax: 710985 ____________________________________ On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Michael Brown wrote:
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Alan Harris wrote:
Slight problem here.... Not to be awkward but the web addresses www.osie.org.uk or www.osie.org. are not accessable to anyone using the N2H2 BESS filtering system.
What type of filtering system is this? If it works in the sensible way (allowing everything except selected undesirable content), then what is it choking on (i.e. what's the message that comes up when you try to access it)? [If it's one of those (IMO absurd) "approved content only" ones, then I assume it's up to the people using it to add 'holes' where appropriate.]
Michael
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Giles Nunn wrote:
The bess N2H2 filtering system is a blacklist proxy (with a few enhancements) based on squid running under debian - 1.3 in our case. It is provided as a service by N2H2 who provide a nightly update of the database. The blacklist is categorised so that only the categories required are blocked. It is provided here as a service to all the scholls in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion. I suspect that the reason that the osie site is blocked is that the hosting site uk2.net provides webmail aka hotmail. The fensystems site it is redirected is blocked because it comes up as part of freeserve which is automatically blocked en-masse, like geocities etc.
OK - this is only a temporary problem (because the hosting of the actual web page on UK2/FreeServe is only temporary). When it moves to a proper server (e.g. the one we are about to lease in Docklands and/or Phil Hands' machine), then the problem will go away. In the meantime, it doesn't matter if it (osie.org.uk) is blocked because no-one is meant to be looking at it anyway!
I have finally managed to skim through all the flood of mail we set loose last week. I agree it is time we moved this list somewhere else and let Roger's list get back to work. I don't mind where it is except that it would be better if everything to with this new initiative was hosted somewhere neutral. Sourceforge would be fine, or UKUUG if they were interested and had the facilities easily available. I suggest that we give averybody say 24 hours to object or suggest something better and then Michael can set us up on his sourceforge osie list.
Not "my" list - just one that I set up so that it was available if wanted (which it seems by now that it is). You can add yourself by visiting http://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/osie-general if you want to do so. Many people already have. Michael
As well as a mailing list - I would recommend a
forum - the amount of messages that flow
through this list specific to a topic are
unbelievable - the list should be used for
general questions, a forum would be better for
the discussions going on here
Just my 2p
Alex Brett
bretta@epsomcollege.org.uk
Date sent: Wed, 21 Mar 2001 13:51:17 +0000 (GMT)
From: Giles Nunn
This is definitely a spur to get me involved again. I will answer Alan's issue first and then try to add my 2p to the osie initiative.
The bess N2H2 filtering system is a blacklist proxy (with a few enhancements) based on squid running under debian - 1.3 in our case. It is provided as a service by N2H2 who provide a nightly update of the database. The blacklist is categorised so that only the categories required are blocked. It is provided here as a service to all the scholls in Carmarthenshire and Ceredigion.
I suspect that the reason that the osie site is blocked is that the hosting site uk2.net provides webmail aka hotmail. The fensystems site it is redirected is blocked because it comes up as part of freeserve which is automatically blocked en-masse, like geocities etc. I can arrange for it to be unblocked, but we do need to decide where it is going to be and under what umbrella. There was talk of UKUUG providing space, and phil hands also offered (under debian?).
I have finally managed to skim through all the flood of mail we set loose last week. I agree it is time we moved this list somewhere else and let Roger's list get back to work. I don't mind where it is except that it would be better if everything to with this new initiative was hosted somewhere neutral. Sourceforge would be fine, or UKUUG if they were interested and had the facilities easily available. I suggest that we give averybody say 24 hours to object or suggest something better and then Michael can set us up on his sourceforge osie list.
That should either get me burned or get a decision made :-)
I will send this now and follow up shortly with some more detail ablout me and my thoughts on osie
____________________________________ Giles Nunn - Network Manager Carms Schools ICT Development Centre Tel: +44 01239 710662 Fax: 710985 ____________________________________
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Michael Brown wrote:
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Alan Harris wrote:
Slight problem here.... Not to be awkward but the web addresses www.osie.org.uk or www.osie.org. are not accessable to anyone using the N2H2 BESS filtering system.
What type of filtering system is this? If it works in the sensible way (allowing everything except selected undesirable content), then what is it choking on (i.e. what's the message that comes up when you try to access it)? [If it's one of those (IMO absurd) "approved content only" ones, then I assume it's up to the people using it to add 'holes' where appropriate.]
Michael
Filtering system blocks all 'free' web pages, system is american, updated every day from central server. I have requested a page review which hopefully should result in the site being unblocked. This is a problem that will not occur with sourceforge. www.ose.org is not blocked - malcoms 'Becta' site. Michael Brown wrote:
On Wed, 21 Mar 2001, Alan Harris wrote:
Slight problem here.... Not to be awkward but the web addresses www.osie.org.uk or www.osie.org. are not accessable to anyone using the N2H2 BESS filtering system.
What type of filtering system is this? If it works in the sensible way (allowing everything except selected undesirable content), then what is it choking on (i.e. what's the message that comes up when you try to access it)? [If it's one of those (IMO absurd) "approved content only" ones, then I assume it's up to the people using it to add 'holes' where appropriate.]
Michael
-- ----------------------------------------------------- Alan Harris Network Manager Bryngwyn School Tel : 01554 750661 Fax : 01554 758255 E-mail: alanh@bryngwyn.carmarthen.sch ----------------------------------------------------- Notes: 1. The contents of this email may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown purposes! Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000. 2. The opinions expressed in this email are personal and may not be shared by Bryngwyn School. -----------------------------------------------------
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Alan Harris
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Alex Brett
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Giles Nunn
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Michael Brown