Open Source in Schools -- Meeting 12-03-2001 ============================================ A meeting has been arranged on Monday 12th March at: Westwood St Thomas School Westwood Road Salisbury Wilts SP2 9HS to discuss the use of Open Source software in schools. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Very many thanks to Paul Taylor of Westwood St Thomas for his offer of this venue. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Chris Dawkins of Felsted School has agreed to speak, as has Malcolm Herbert of Red Hat. It is hoped that other items of interest can be arranged. A proposal made by Michael Brown of Fen Systems for the formation of an Association for the promotion of Open Source software in education will be discussed. It is hoped that this can be combined with the recent discussion about a virtual schools' LUG and web site. A timetable for the day and detailed agenda will be posted shortly. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- for discussion: --------------- I am a Council member of UKUUG and have been charged with the task of setting up a schools committee: I hope that in this way the various initiatives which have been made (including the work done by Malcolm when he was at BECTA and SuSE's work with schools) can be brought together to improve their impact and avoid duplication of work. So that this work can have the support of the major Linux distributions and other commercial interests while remaining independent, I suggest that it be set up in association with UKUUG. --------------------------------------------------------------------------- All those with an interest in the use of Linux and Open Source in education are welcome to attend - please let me know if you are planning to be there. -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger@suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------
hi all i hope that this meeting will be extremely useful in moving towards a more collective approach for open source in schools. a couple of points to consider before and the during the meeting: 1. Should it be an open source or a Linux umbrella? i'm think here of a) FreeBSD (esp given Chris Dawkins presencs) b) educational content, much of which is becoming web-based, not Linux-based, but not in the main open source. Its been given the Open Source title and Linux is the cornerstone, and this leads into... 2. That despite the best efforts of some, the current Open Source / Linux schools audience is not mainstream and we are at times a small group preaching to the converted, perhaps what we should be looking at it lobby the wider audience, including Governement, LEAs, manufacturers and professional organisations, rather than each other. Some strategy for that would be interesting, including the publication of case studies etc regards Malcolm there are On Wednesday 07 February 2001 09:54, Roger Whittaker wrote:
Open Source in Schools -- Meeting 12-03-2001 ============================================
A meeting has been arranged on Monday 12th March
at:
Westwood St Thomas School Westwood Road Salisbury Wilts SP2 9HS
to discuss the use of Open Source software in schools.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Very many thanks to Paul Taylor of Westwood St Thomas for his offer of this venue. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Dawkins of Felsted School has agreed to speak, as has Malcolm Herbert of Red Hat. It is hoped that other items of interest can be arranged.
A proposal made by Michael Brown of Fen Systems for the formation of an Association for the promotion of Open Source software in education will be discussed.
It is hoped that this can be combined with the recent discussion about a virtual schools' LUG and web site.
A timetable for the day and detailed agenda will be posted shortly.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- for discussion: --------------- I am a Council member of UKUUG and have been charged with the task of setting up a schools committee: I hope that in this way the various initiatives which have been made (including the work done by Malcolm when he was at BECTA and SuSE's work with schools) can be brought together to improve their impact and avoid duplication of work. So that this work can have the support of the major Linux distributions and other commercial interests while remaining independent, I suggest that it be set up in association with UKUUG. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
All those with an interest in the use of Linux and Open Source in education are welcome to attend - please let me know if you are planning to be there.
-- --------------------------------------- Dr Malcolm Herbert Director, Academic Business Development Red Hat Europe t: +44 1483 734955 m: +44 7720 079845 -------------------------------------- "To err is human, but to really foul things up you need a computer" Farmers Weekly, 1977
Well - I think it should be an `open source' umbrella, though in practice for most people that will imply primarily Linux and software that runs on Linux. I am trying to invite contacts from LEAs and hardware people who might be interested. Any publicity anyone can do is good. On Thu, 8 Feb 2001, Malcolm Herbert wrote:
hi all
i hope that this meeting will be extremely useful in moving towards a more collective approach for open source in schools.
a couple of points to consider before and the during the meeting:
1. Should it be an open source or a Linux umbrella? i'm think here of a) FreeBSD (esp given Chris Dawkins presencs) b) educational content, much of which is becoming web-based, not Linux-based, but not in the main open source. Its been given the Open Source title and Linux is the cornerstone, and this leads into...
2. That despite the best efforts of some, the current Open Source / Linux schools audience is not mainstream and we are at times a small group preaching to the converted, perhaps what we should be looking at it lobby the wider audience, including Governement, LEAs, manufacturers and professional organisations, rather than each other. Some strategy for that would be interesting, including the publication of case studies etc
regards
Malcolm
there are On Wednesday 07 February 2001 09:54, Roger Whittaker wrote:
Open Source in Schools -- Meeting 12-03-2001 ============================================
A meeting has been arranged on Monday 12th March
at:
Westwood St Thomas School Westwood Road Salisbury Wilts SP2 9HS
to discuss the use of Open Source software in schools.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Very many thanks to Paul Taylor of Westwood St Thomas for his offer of this venue. +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Chris Dawkins of Felsted School has agreed to speak, as has Malcolm Herbert of Red Hat. It is hoped that other items of interest can be arranged.
A proposal made by Michael Brown of Fen Systems for the formation of an Association for the promotion of Open Source software in education will be discussed.
It is hoped that this can be combined with the recent discussion about a virtual schools' LUG and web site.
A timetable for the day and detailed agenda will be posted shortly.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------- for discussion: --------------- I am a Council member of UKUUG and have been charged with the task of setting up a schools committee: I hope that in this way the various initiatives which have been made (including the work done by Malcolm when he was at BECTA and SuSE's work with schools) can be brought together to improve their impact and avoid duplication of work. So that this work can have the support of the major Linux distributions and other commercial interests while remaining independent, I suggest that it be set up in association with UKUUG. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
All those with an interest in the use of Linux and Open Source in education are welcome to attend - please let me know if you are planning to be there.
-- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger@suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------
The Carms LEA will be represented - I intend coming. Just one question: What time are we meeting? ;-) ____________________________________ Giles Nunn - Network Manager Carms Schools ICT Development Centre Tel: +44 01239 710662 Fax: 710985 ____________________________________ On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Roger Whittaker wrote:
Well - I think it should be an `open source' umbrella, though in practice for most people that will imply primarily Linux and software that runs on Linux.
I am trying to invite contacts from LEAs and hardware people who might be interested.
snip . .
Hi All, Add one more member from Carms LEA then! Any information on time of meeting and location of school would be welcome - I would probably be coming by train so earliest time for me would be approx 10:20 to 11:00 a.m. Fuel for the flames (as they say) - anybody read the article in I.T. Week re-removal of win'95 support/supply/etc? Comments on possible impact on schools of being forced to use win'98 / Win ME / Win 2000? I'm sure Win'98 won't last long and I'm sick of not having the OS supplied on CD with the Computer! Roll over Bill - the time of the Penguin is nigh! Alan Harris Giles Nunn wrote:
The Carms LEA will be represented - I intend coming. Just one question: What time are we meeting? ;-)
____________________________________ Giles Nunn - Network Manager Carms Schools ICT Development Centre Tel: +44 01239 710662 Fax: 710985 ____________________________________
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Roger Whittaker wrote:
Well - I think it should be an `open source' umbrella, though in practice for most people that will imply primarily Linux and software that runs on Linux.
I am trying to invite contacts from LEAs and hardware people who might be interested.
snip . .
-- ----------------------------------------------------- Alan Harris Network Manager Bryngwyn School Tel : 01554 750661 Fax : 01554 758255 E-mail: alanh@bryngwyn.carmarthen.sch ----------------------------------------------------- Notes: 1. The contents of this email may be snooped on by interested government parties for unknown purposes! Regulation of Investigatory Powers Act, 2000. 2. The opinions expressed in this email are personal and may not be shared by Bryngwyn School. -----------------------------------------------------
Fuel for the flames (as they say) - anybody read the article in I.T. Week re-removal of win'95 support/supply/etc? Comments on possible impact on schools of being forced to use win'98 / Win ME / Win 2000?
The problem with WIN98/ME is that they don't actually add very much of value to school users over WIN95, but do add extra security problems and shortcommings. As for 2000, if people are likely to have to start junking apps then things don't look too good for MS. -- Mark Evans St. Peter's CofE High School Phone: +44 1392 204764 X109 Fax: +44 1392 204763
I'll put out a programme shortly after talking to Paul again. But we'll try to give poeple a bit of time to arrive ... On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Giles Nunn wrote:
The Carms LEA will be represented - I intend coming. Just one question: What time are we meeting? ;-)
____________________________________ Giles Nunn - Network Manager Carms Schools ICT Development Centre Tel: +44 01239 710662 Fax: 710985 ____________________________________
On Mon, 12 Feb 2001, Roger Whittaker wrote:
Well - I think it should be an `open source' umbrella, though in practice for most people that will imply primarily Linux and software that runs on Linux.
I am trying to invite contacts from LEAs and hardware people who might be interested.
snip . .
-- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger@suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------
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Alan Harris -
Giles Nunn -
Malcolm Herbert -
Mark Evans -
Roger Whittaker