March 2000 - openSUSE Edu - openSUSE Mailing Lists

more about disks/LINUX
by adrian.wells 27 Mar '00

27 Mar '00

Further to adding disks, I do like the way in which hard disks are identified on the system, with hda to hdc referring to the physical IDE address of the disk. Sometimes under win9x this can become very confusing when trying to identify the physical disk from it's logical name in a multi disk/multi partion set-up - especially when windows decides to change the drive letters! I must say that LINUX appears to be very stable - even when operated by someone as unstable as myself - I can attribute all crashes to myself (these usually are in the form of application crashes), but with multiple accounts I have only used the power switch a couple of times to clear problems! Number Lock I have number lock set up in my BIOS but it's not set on boot, is this LINUX over-riding the num lock status? Kind Regards Adrian Wells _______________________________________ Systems Manager Sidcot School Oakridge Lane, Winscombe, Somerset BS25 1PD. Please reply to adrian.wells(a)sidcot.org.uk admin(a)sidcot.org.uk for general enquiries

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Welcome message
by Roger Whittaker 26 Mar '00

26 Mar '00

A few people joined the list yesterday. Welcome to them: it would be good if they could post a meesage to the list introducing themselves, saying what they do or hope to do with Linux. Christopher Dawkins has suggested to me that we should do a web page for schools to go with this list: it's something I had already thought about and hope to get going before too long - what do other people think? -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Preliminary Budgetary exercise
by Raju 25 Mar '00

25 Mar '00

I do see a 5 digit number printed all by itself without any explanation on the Registration Card for US and Canada. Could it be that? If I fail in every other avenue, I will keep your gracious offer in mind. Thanks. ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Taylor <ptaylor(a)uklinux.net> To: Raju <raju(a)one.net> Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2000 1:00 PM Subject: RE: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Preliminary Budgetary exercise > Hi Raju: > > The media key for Star Office is printed on the registration card at the > front of the SuSE manual I believe. I have installed it a few times and get > a response from Sun immediately with the unlock key (like someone else in > this forum I bought a copy of SO just before it went free). I have a copy > of 5.1a that does not require the media key on a PC Plus disk if you want me > to mail it to you? > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: Raju [mailto:raju@one.net] > Sent: 24 March 2000 19:53 > To: Suse-inux-uk-Schools > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Preliminary Budgetary exercise > > Thought of that. Wanted at least 2 workstation to demo the "complete Linux" > solution. But ..... > > I "installed" SO from the SuSE distro with Yast. Now "intalling" it requires > Media Key etc. and there is absolutely no help on the stardivision site. I > know there are people out there who have done it. But I can not figure out > how to. I have registered on the stardivision site (as it says in the help > file of SO) 2 weeks ago and have not even rcvd an polite "you have been > registered" from them yet!! > > Could you send me step by step instruction on how to get the Media Key > information? That seems to be the toughest part. Also does this mean I will > have to stop using it in another months time? I am a little shaken with the > ambiguity of the installation procedure. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> > To: Raju <raju(a)one.net> > Cc: Suse-inux-uk-Schools <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 2:27 PM > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Preliminary Budgetary exercise > > > > Linux on the clients, StarOffice, ... etc > > > > On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Raju wrote: > > > > > Roger, > > > > > > Here is what I found out during the budgetary exercise... > > > > > > There exists a "School Agreement" by Microsoft Licensing. All prices > given > > > below are per this agreement. As far as I can tell the only thing they > say > > > is that the school should have at least 10 PCs. All latest versions will > > > automatically be given to the schools having this agreement. > > > > > > - NT Small Business Server (includes mail, proxy, web etc.) for schools > is > > > an one time cost of 385 pounds. This is one time purchase so no > upgrades. > > > Caveat: The server has an upper limit of 50 users in the latest > > > release(4.5). Ealier releases used to have a limit of 25 users. > > > > > > - School Agreement Client License Pack (MS-Office, subscription to > Encarta > > > online, Visual whatchamacallits, MS-Works, Fontpage etc., client > license to > > > Small Business Server) 41 pounds per year per PC. > > > > > > - My school says it needs MS-Publisher (because the 4 PCs they have last > 2 > > > years have it and they are now used to it) and that will be an > additional 17 > > > pounds per year per PC. > > > > > > That basically boils down to (ignoring Publisher for the moment) the > > > following for a 30 PC network. > > > > > > One time cost: 400 pounds for the server > > > Recurring cost: 1400 pounds / year / PC > > > > > > Now since the school has decided to go with the W98 clients, the > recurring > > > cost will apply to Linux server scenario as well. The only thing that > > > differentiates it is the saving of 350 pounds!! Not much to go on here, > is > > > there? > > > > > > BTW, the people who told the Pricipal about Linux being unstable was > "Gemini > > > 2000". They are in approximately the same business as RM plc. Although > they > > > keep claiming that they are not "rigid" like RM. The server they have > > > suggested costs 3500 pounds. Sounds overkill for a network with 35 PCs > (max) > > > and 5 printers!! ... sigh! > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> > > > To: Raju <raju(a)one.net> > > > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 11:00 AM > > > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] One day exhibition of Linux? > > > > > > > > > > On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Raju wrote: > > > > > > > > > I have already sold the idea of Linux server but am still unsure > > > > > since the costing does not work convincingly in favour of Linux > yet!! > > > > > > > > Can you give me an idea of why ... > > > > What else is involved? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Roger Whittaker > > SuSE Linux Ltd > > The Kinetic Centre > > Theobald Street > > Borehamwood > > Herts > > WD6 4PJ > > ---------------------- > > 020 8387 1482 > > ---------------------- > > roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk > > ---------------------- > > > > > >

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Preliminary Budgetary exercise
by Raju 24 Mar '00

24 Mar '00

Roger, Here is what I found out during the budgetary exercise... There exists a "School Agreement" by Microsoft Licensing. All prices given below are per this agreement. As far as I can tell the only thing they say is that the school should have at least 10 PCs. All latest versions will automatically be given to the schools having this agreement. - NT Small Business Server (includes mail, proxy, web etc.) for schools is an one time cost of 385 pounds. This is one time purchase so no upgrades. Caveat: The server has an upper limit of 50 users in the latest release(4.5). Ealier releases used to have a limit of 25 users. - School Agreement Client License Pack (MS-Office, subscription to Encarta online, Visual whatchamacallits, MS-Works, Fontpage etc., client license to Small Business Server) 41 pounds per year per PC. - My school says it needs MS-Publisher (because the 4 PCs they have last 2 years have it and they are now used to it) and that will be an additional 17 pounds per year per PC. That basically boils down to (ignoring Publisher for the moment) the following for a 30 PC network. One time cost: 400 pounds for the server Recurring cost: 1400 pounds / year / PC Now since the school has decided to go with the W98 clients, the recurring cost will apply to Linux server scenario as well. The only thing that differentiates it is the saving of 350 pounds!! Not much to go on here, is there? BTW, the people who told the Pricipal about Linux being unstable was "Gemini 2000". They are in approximately the same business as RM plc. Although they keep claiming that they are not "rigid" like RM. The server they have suggested costs 3500 pounds. Sounds overkill for a network with 35 PCs (max) and 5 printers!! ... sigh! ----- Original Message ----- From: Roger Whittaker <roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk> To: Raju <raju(a)one.net> Sent: Friday, March 24, 2000 11:00 AM Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] One day exhibition of Linux? > On Fri, 24 Mar 2000, Raju wrote: > > > I have already sold the idea of Linux server but am still unsure > > since the costing does not work convincingly in favour of Linux yet!! > > Can you give me an idea of why ... > What else is involved? >

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CHMOD.
by James Scott 24 Mar '00

24 Mar '00

Hello, I know this is basic but how do you use chmod i) to set public_html dir in my userid to 704 and ii) the files in it to 705 . Thanks James Very new to linux

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mailing list entries
by Helen Reed 24 Mar '00

24 Mar '00

Please could you change the mailing address from Trinityschool(a)btinternet.com to admin(a)trinityschool.co.uk Many thanks

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Re: RM-InSITE: Downloading complete Web sites.
by adrian.wells 23 Mar '00

23 Mar '00

try http://bluesquirrel.com/storefront/storefront.html Adrian ---------- > From: Adrian Bayling <adrian(a)ssfc.demon.co.uk> > To: rm-insite(a)rmplc.co.uk > Subject: Re: RM-InSITE: Downloading complete Web sites. > Date: 23 March 2000 13:09 > > > > Can anybody recommend any good software (preferably free!) for downloading > > complete Web sites? > > > > You could try WebWhacker 2000 from Blue Squirrel > tttp://bluesquirrel.com/storefront.html > > Not free, though. > > I haven't used it enough to give a recommendation or otherwise, > but it works and has been around for a long time in one form or > another. > > Once we got our caching proxy server working, there didn't seem much > point. > > Adrian. > > > > _________________________________________________________ > > RM Networks Mail List http://support.rm.com/connect/forums/ > _________________________________________________________ > > To unsubscribe send a message to majordomo(a)rmplc.co.uk with the body text : > UNSUBSCRIBE RM-INSITE youraddress > > For help please contact : rm-list-help(a)rmplc.co.uk

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] One day exhibition of Linux?
by Roger Whittaker 23 Mar '00

23 Mar '00

Devon and Cornwall LUG: http://www.lug.termisoc.org/ (I think this is mainly a student group at the University of Plymouth) There is a list of nation-wide LUGs at: http://www.lug.org.uk/ On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, James Scott wrote: > How do we find out who, what where for our local Linux user group ??? I > would imagine that I am pushing my luck to think that there is one in 100 > miles of here. > > Rgds > > James > Down in sunny Cornwall -- Roger Whittaker SuSE Linux Ltd The Kinetic Centre Theobald Street Borehamwood Herts WD6 4PJ ---------------------- 020 8387 1482 ---------------------- roger(a)suse-linux.co.uk ----------------------

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One day exhibition of Linux?
by Alan Davies 23 Mar '00

23 Mar '00

How about someone running a 'one day workshop'? With a list of demonstrations to be collectively decided on. (The problem will be catering for beginners and more advanced users in the same session...perhaps split between morning and afternoon). What I would like is Setting up a LINUX box (I must say I generally find that easier than windoze) Configuring the Xserver/video drivers. Configuring Sound, network Configuring Printers (still a bit of mystery to me - unless you have postscript) Accessing the server remotely - Telnet, Xserver clients(Humminbird) and Acorn's Gnome Setting up and Using VNC (which some see as a cheap alternative to Xserver) Downloading, unpacking and installing RPM type applications. Typical Applications - Applix, Netscape, Star Office, GIMP, others? And (why not) recompiling your own Kernel to include/exclude various bits. I could offer the facilties for free - but not the expertise! Although I suspect many would prefer London as more 'central' communicationwise.

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Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Apache web server
by James Scott 23 Mar '00

23 Mar '00

Thanks, I have just done this and the page has copied across. Now I get You are not authorized to view this page You might not have permission to view this directory or page using the credentials you supplied. If you believe you should be able to view this directory or page, please try to contact the Web site by using any e-mail address or phone number that may be listed on the 213.18.94.9 home page. You can click Search to look for information on the Internet. HTTP Error 403 - Forbidden Internet Explorer can you help with this. James ---------- > From: James Samuel <james(a)suse.co.uk> > To: James Scott <scott(a)camborne-comm-coll.cornwall.sch.uk> > Cc: suse schools list <suse-linux-uk-schools(a)suse.com> > Subject: Re: [suse-linux-uk-schools] Apache web server > Date: 23 March 2000 09:58 > > On Thu, 23 Mar 2000, James Scott wrote: > > > Can any one out there tell me how to publish html to my Linux. I have > > Apache up and running. But I can't find where to publish my stuff (i.e. > > what folder). > > If you want it to appear in the "main" folder - i.e. at the main address, > the dir you are looking for is /usr/local/httpd/htdocs. If you want > per-user html folders, make a directory called public_html in each users > home dir - then any files you put in there will be accessable with a URL > of http://<machinename>/~<username>/<files>. > > Any more info, please ask. :) > > -- > James Samuel > Network Manager, SuSE Linux Ltd. > Direct Phone: +44 (0)208 387 1485 Fax: +44 (0)208 387 4010

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