I'm posting this on the conference mailing list in case the cfp committee hasn't signed up and been approved on the cfp mailing list yet.

Based on this mornings meeting (aka if we co-locate with LinuxExpo), previous postings and feedback from osc11, I'd like to propose that we align the session proposals to the following 5 tracks/day:
- Community & Education presentations: New technology and community learning
- Hacker Workshops : Join with fellow programmers to hone your skills and contributions
- BoF : (small highly interactive, project oriented discussions and coding; defining direction)
- SUSE Labs : The SUSE Labs hackers meet face-to-face to share their knowledge and experience with each other and learn new things.
- Czech language sessions : A variety of openSUSE related topics presented in Czech language to provide collaboration opportunities and cross over with LinuxExpo (All other tracks will be presented in English)
+ Keynotes
+ Evening events

Thoughts?

AlanClark

>>> On 4/13/2012 at 02:04 PM, Shayon Mukherjee  wrote: 
> On 04/13/2012 10:18 AM, Jos Poortvliet wrote:
>> - Shayon, could you copy the Summit site over? We will also need a double
>> site, translations in Czech.
> Yes I will do that and update soon. Also for the double site you mean - 
> /cz/  ?
> /S
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On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 11:46 PM, Alan Clark wrote:

I'm posting this on the conference mailing list in case the cfp committee hasn't signed up and been approved on the cfp mailing list yet.

Based on this mornings meeting (aka if we co-locate with LinuxExpo), previous postings and feedback from osc11, I'd like to propose that we align the session proposals to the following 5 tracks/day: - Community & Education presentations: New technology and community learning - Hacker Workshops : Join with fellow programmers to hone your skills and contributions - BoF : (small highly interactive, project oriented discussions and coding; defining direction) - SUSE Labs : The SUSE Labs hackers meet face-to-face to share their knowledge and experience with each other and learn new things. - Czech language sessions : A variety of openSUSE related topics presented in Czech language to provide collaboration opportunities and cross over with LinuxExpo (All other tracks will be presented in English) + Keynotes + Evening events

Thoughts?

AlanClark

Hello Alan, In addition to what Michal said, I would also prefer not to interfere with SUSE Labs and ${LinuxExpo} presentations yet. From what I've seen so far based on the discussions, it may be possible to have more than one czech talk in parallel (or talk and workshop/BoF), and maybe some hard-to-decide-where-to-put talks, eg a czech presentation about openSUSE (either the distro or a technology) In general I strongly agree with the schedule you propose. At least for the workshops/BoF's we're going to have plenty of rooms. At least Michal and me intend to have frequent meetings with the LinuxExpo guys in order to distribute the slots properly. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org

2012/4/20 Jos Poortvliet :

On Friday 13 April 2012 17:18:30 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

...

In the meeting we had we decided: - to delay the final decision with max one week - but work with the assumption we're going university - the theme would be "*bootstrapping awesome*", because    - we always bootstrap awesome things in openSUSE    - we bootstrap the first gentoo summit    - we bootstrap the first community-led LinuxExpo    - SUSE Labs is all about weird words like 'bootstrapping', 'chrooting' etc - based on that, start the artwork and the CfP - the current CfP volunteers would be (let me know who's wrong):   - Vincent Untz   - Kostas Koudaras   - michal Hrusky   - Pavol Rusnak   - Theo Chatzimichos   - Petr Uzel   - Michal Čihař   - Alan Clark   - Juri   - Dinar Please subscribe to cfp+subscribe@opensuse.org NOW.

- Did you all subscribe? Just did :( For some reason I lost the e-mail - can I expect a CfP draft today?

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- I will email andy for the artwork, give him some ideas that floated around at the meeting. Done, he's on it. We've been going over a few itterations now, I think we've got something to show... Will let him do that :D

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- Shayon, could you copy the Summit site over? We will also need a double site, translations in Czech. Shayon did that :D

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- We will synchronize the CfP esp on Sat and Sun, basically set the program together. So we need info on their CfP's...

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- Michal will collect some nice info about the city and university.

Timeplan: - We have a final CfP committee, they have to get talkin' about what they want - Sunday Theo talks to Gentoo, hopefully gets an OK. He'll put up a static page with info asap. - Mon/Tue we get final word on if we can use the big rooms in the Uni and how much. Michal?

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- Wed the CfP committee gets a draft of the CfP to me Haven't seen anything :D

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- Wed we have a meeting with the LinuxExpo team to talk about the plan  - they need to hurry up securing the LinuxExpo name/URL etc  - they need to get at least a static site up and a CfP committee together so we can announce at the same time Tuesday April 24 - Thursday website has to be up and CfP draft ready - Friday/Saturday we translate website and CfP - Friday we try to have something final on the location and sign it

Ping :D

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- Monday April 23 I inform the press about it all - Tuesday 24th of April week we announce the location, site and CfP.

Please, all - look over this - what is missing, can we do this? Can we get "all hands on deck"?

Updates please!

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Hugs,

/Jos

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On Apr 20, 12 11:49:57 +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

On Friday 13 April 2012 17:18:30 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

...

In the meeting we had we decided: - to delay the final decision with max one week - but work with the assumption we're going university - the theme would be "*bootstrapping awesome*",

I got some puzzled looks when I tried to discuss this theme in the documentation team. Awesome is an adjective and should be followed by a noun. Variants that would make more sense to me: *bootstrapping awe* *awesome bootstrapping* *bootstrapping, awesome!* *bootstrapping - awesome!*

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because - we always bootstrap awesome things in openSUSE - we bootstrap the first gentoo summit - we bootstrap the first community-led LinuxExpo - SUSE Labs is all about weird words like 'bootstrapping', 'chrooting'

Intended weirdness is great, but somehow it did not work here. Any native speakers to comment on this? thanks, JW- -- o \ Juergen Weigert paint it green! __/ _=======.=======_ <V> | jw@suse.de back to ascii! __/ _---|____________\/ \ | 0911 74053-508 say #263A!__/ (____/ /\ (/) | _____________________________/ _/ \_ vim:set sw=2 wm=8 SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, GF: Jeff Hawn, J.Guild, F.Imendoerffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nuernberg), Maxfeldstrasse 5, 90409 Nuernberg, Germany SuSE. Supporting Linux since 1992. ☺ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org

On Fri, 2012-04-20 at 13:15 +0200, Michal Hrusecky wrote:

Juergen Weigert - 13:08 20.04.12 wrote:

...

On Apr 20, 12 11:49:57 +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

...

On Friday 13 April 2012 17:18:30 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

...

In the meeting we had we decided: - to delay the final decision with max one week - but work with the assumption we're going university - the theme would be "*bootstrapping awesome*",

I got some puzzled looks when I tried to discuss this theme in the documentation team. Awesome is an adjective and should be followed by a noun.

Variants that would make more sense to me: *bootstrapping awe* *awesome bootstrapping* *bootstrapping, awesome!* *bootstrapping - awesome!*

...

...

because - we always bootstrap awesome things in openSUSE - we bootstrap the first gentoo summit - we bootstrap the first community-led LinuxExpo - SUSE Labs is all about weird words like 'bootstrapping', 'chrooting'

Intended weirdness is great, but somehow it did not work here. Any native speakers to comment on this?

*Raises hand as native speaker* -- Actually it is possible to convert an adjective to a noun, and it is perfectly valid use case in the way Jos did it. It's probably much more in the realm of slang than formal English, as its many in the younger generation that tend to "moun-ize" their adjectives. As this is a slogan, that makes it even more appropriate as slogans are about evoking emotion rather than linguistic perfection. However, ultimately, I think the fact that it was asked for a native speaker here and that there was puzzlement about the overall phrase itself, shows we need to be a bit careful here. Not only did it look weird to non-native speakers, but even for native speakers, "bootstrapping" isn't that common a word to be used. So there's going to have to be a lot of explaining what exactly we mean here. I think we encountered that same problem with the RWX theme last year. It made perfect sense, especially for someone with the tech expertise, but beyond that most people were puzzled by it and we spent more time explaining it than getting the message across. Conceptually, I like the whole "bootstrapping" theme. It is what we do as a Project here. but we should find words that are similar to bootstrapping that connect on a broader level of our intended audience. While any and all theme and slogans really do require some level of explanation, it is better to be explaining concepts than to be explaining word first then concept second. Bryen

What about 'bootstrapping awesomeness'? I think that would characterize the best what we had in mind while thinking about theme...

-- Michal Hrusecky

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On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 01:08:56PM +0200, Juergen Weigert wrote:

On Apr 20, 12 11:49:57 +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

...

On Friday 13 April 2012 17:18:30 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

...

In the meeting we had we decided: - to delay the final decision with max one week - but work with the assumption we're going university - the theme would be "*bootstrapping awesome*",

I got some puzzled looks when I tried to discuss this theme in the documentation team. Awesome is an adjective and should be followed by a noun.

Variants that would make more sense to me: *bootstrapping awe* *awesome bootstrapping* *bootstrapping, awesome!* *bootstrapping - awesome!*

...

...

because - we always bootstrap awesome things in openSUSE - we bootstrap the first gentoo summit - we bootstrap the first community-led LinuxExpo - SUSE Labs is all about weird words like 'bootstrapping', 'chrooting'

Intended weirdness is great, but somehow it did not work here. Any native speakers to comment on this?

Not a native english speaker, but: "In English, you can verb anything." Similarly, you can turn adjectives and adverbs and verbs into nouns if you brute force them enough. Like "stop on red" or "epic fail". The closest 'proper english' the primary meaning would be 'bootstrapping awesomeness', 'bootstrapping awesome things'. The secondary would be '****** awesome', the 'bootstrapping' serving as a stand-in for a more profane expletive and awesome being an adverb. It's a clever little tagline, although I can see how in Europe, from primarily non-native English speakers it could result in a lot of puzzled looks. -- Vojtech Pavlik Director SuSE Labs -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-conference+owner@opensuse.org

On Friday 20 April 2012 13:08:56 Juergen Weigert wrote:

On Apr 20, 12 11:49:57 +0200, Jos Poortvliet wrote:

...

On Friday 13 April 2012 17:18:30 Jos Poortvliet wrote:

...

In the meeting we had we decided: - to delay the final decision with max one week - but work with the assumption we're going university - the theme would be "*bootstrapping awesome*",

I got some puzzled looks when I tried to discuss this theme in the documentation team. Awesome is an adjective and should be followed by a noun.

Of course, it's a language joke, not proper English. But both native speakers (who get the joke) and non-natives (who probably don't) will understand what it means. I think... :D

Variants that would make more sense to me: *bootstrapping awe* *awesome bootstrapping* *bootstrapping, awesome!* *bootstrapping - awesome!*

...

...

because

- we always bootstrap awesome things in openSUSE - we bootstrap the first gentoo summit - we bootstrap the first community-led LinuxExpo - SUSE Labs is all about weird words like 'bootstrapping', 'chrooting'

Intended weirdness is great, but somehow it did not work here. Any native speakers to comment on this?

Yes, I find it funny but I'm (although quite a english language freak) not a native speaker. Natives, talk to us :D

thanks, JW-