[opensuse-conference] Bags for conference
FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference with sponsor logos on it. We're planning to put a SUSE Geeko into each bag. If you talk with a sponsor that likes to add something to the bag, please tell me, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference with sponsor logos on it. Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more hindering
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: than being useful.
We're planning to put a SUSE Geeko into each bag. If you talk with a sponsor that likes to add something to the bag, please tell me,
If we only put a geeko in, I think we do not need it. We could hand the Geeko to the people, they have their backpack anyway. For the sponsors we could have a table where we put the swag on. my opinion, Klaas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
On Tue, 2011-08-09 at 17:35 +0200, Klaas Freitag wrote:
FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference with sponsor logos on it. Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more hindering
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: than being useful.
We're planning to put a SUSE Geeko into each bag. If you talk with a sponsor that likes to add something to the bag, please tell me,
If we only put a geeko in, I think we do not need it. We could hand the Geeko to the people, they have their backpack anyway. For the sponsors we could have a table where we put the swag on.
my opinion, Klaas
I would even argue that we shouldn't do a plushie-in-ever-bag. A significant number of us already have a beloved Geeko and it might be more economical to just have people walk up and ask for a plushie than give one automatically to everyone. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 17:35:12 Klaas Freitag wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference with sponsor logos on it.
Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more hindering than being useful.
A cotton bag can be made very small, if you don't need it - and you don't need to take one ;) We found it a nice thing to do - and cheaper than doing T-Shirts ;)
We're planning to put a SUSE Geeko into each bag. If you talk with a sponsor that likes to add something to the bag, please tell me,
If we only put a geeko in, I think we do not need it. We could hand the Geeko to the people, they have their backpack anyway. For the sponsors we could have a table where we put the swag on.
Yes, that would be the alternative, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
On 08/10/2011 09:20 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 17:35:12 Klaas Freitag wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference with sponsor logos on it.
Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more hindering than being useful.
A cotton bag can be made very small, if you don't need it - and you don't need to take one ;)
We found it a nice thing to do - and cheaper than doing T-Shirts ;)
We're planning to put a SUSE Geeko into each bag. If you talk with a sponsor that likes to add something to the bag, please tell me,
If we only put a geeko in, I think we do not need it. We could hand the Geeko to the people, they have their backpack anyway. For the sponsors we could have a table where we put the swag on.
Yes, that would be the alternative,
Andreas
Kind of contest, like ask registration with you most beautiful smile, saying I love geeko and win a plush -- Bruno Friedmann Ioda-Net Sàrl www.ioda-net.ch openSUSE Member & Ambassador GPG KEY : D5C9B751C4653227 irc: tigerfoot -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On Wed, 10 Aug 2011, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more hindering than being useful.
A cotton bag can be made very small, if you don't need it - and you don't need to take one ;)
We found it a nice thing to do - and cheaper than doing T-Shirts ;)
But I need new t-shirts ... ;-) Ciao, Michael. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
On 08/10/2011 03:20 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 17:35:12 Klaas Freitag wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference with sponsor logos on it.
Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more hindering than being useful.
A cotton bag can be made very small, if you don't need it - and you don't need to take one ;)
We found it a nice thing to do - and cheaper than doing T-Shirts ;)
No conference t-shirt? :( Geeko must be about $5 US and a cotton bag must be at least $3 US, for $8US one can buy a t-shirt retail.
We're planning to put a SUSE Geeko into each bag. If you talk with a sponsor that likes to add something to the bag, please tell me,
If we only put a geeko in, I think we do not need it. We could hand the Geeko to the people, they have their backpack anyway. For the sponsors we could have a table where we put the swag on.
Yes, that would be the alternative,
Andreas
-- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
Hey, On 12.08.2011 13:02, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/10/2011 03:20 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 17:35:12 Klaas Freitag wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference with sponsor logos on it.
Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more hindering than being useful.
A cotton bag can be made very small, if you don't need it - and you don't need to take one ;)
We found it a nice thing to do - and cheaper than doing T-Shirts ;)
No conference t-shirt? :(
Geeko must be about $5 US and a cotton bag must be at least $3 US, for $8US one can buy a t-shirt retail.
A T-shirt needs a design. A bag we whipped up in 10 minutes. We have to be pragmatic now, the conference is in 4 weeks. Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE http://www.hennevogel.de Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
On 08/12/2011 07:28 AM, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hey,
On 12.08.2011 13:02, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/10/2011 03:20 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 17:35:12 Klaas Freitag wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference with sponsor logos on it.
Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more hindering than being useful.
A cotton bag can be made very small, if you don't need it - and you don't need to take one ;)
We found it a nice thing to do - and cheaper than doing T-Shirts ;)
No conference t-shirt? :(
Geeko must be about $5 US and a cotton bag must be at least $3 US, for $8US one can buy a t-shirt retail.
A T-shirt needs a design.
6 design ideas attached. I think the design elements are pretty clear, geeko picture, conference details, conference motto, conference name. We can decide on a layout based on these 6, add some TLC to improve the quality (Robert will do better with this than my daughter ;) ) and voila, we have t-shirt design. The process should take 2 days, then we still have 3 weeks to get them printed.
A bag we whipped up in 10 minutes.
Yes, but nobody really wants a bag.
We have to be pragmatic now, the conference is in 4 weeks.
We can decide on a layout based on these 6, add some TLC to improve the quality (Robert will do better with this than my daughter ;) ) and voila, we have t-shirt design. The process should take 2 days, then we still have 3 weeks to get them printed. Sounds pragmatic and reasonable to me. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147
On Monday, August 15, 2011 09:44:41 Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/12/2011 07:28 AM, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hey,
On 12.08.2011 13:02, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/10/2011 03:20 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 17:35:12 Klaas Freitag wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference with sponsor logos on it.
Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more hindering than being useful.
A cotton bag can be made very small, if you don't need it - and you don't need to take one ;)
We found it a nice thing to do - and cheaper than doing T-Shirts ;)
No conference t-shirt? :(
Geeko must be about $5 US and a cotton bag must be at least $3 US, for $8US one can buy a t-shirt retail.
A T-shirt needs a design.
6 design ideas attached.
Thanks - unfortunately there's no budget left for t-shirt printing anymore, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
On Friday, August 12, 2011 13:02:08 Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/10/2011 03:20 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 17:35:12 Klaas Freitag wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference with sponsor logos on it.
Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more hindering than being useful.
A cotton bag can be made very small, if you don't need it - and you don't need to take one ;)
We found it a nice thing to do - and cheaper than doing T-Shirts ;)
No conference t-shirt? :(
Geeko must be about $5 US and a cotton bag must be at least $3 US, for $8US one can buy a t-shirt retail.
The Geekos will not come ouf of the openSUSE budget and thus your numbers do not add up, Andreas -- Andreas Jaeger, Program Manager openSUSE aj@{suse.com,opensuse.org} Twitter/Identica: jaegerandi SUSE LINUX Products GmbH, Maxfeldstr. 5, 90409 Nürnberg, Germany GF: Jeff Hawn, Jennifer Guild, Felix Imendörffer, HRB 16746 (AG Nürnberg) GPG fingerprint = 93A3 365E CE47 B889 DF7F FED1 389A 563C C272 A126 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
On 08/15/2011 03:32 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Friday, August 12, 2011 13:02:08 Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/10/2011 03:20 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 17:35:12 Klaas Freitag wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference with sponsor logos on it.
Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more hindering than being useful.
A cotton bag can be made very small, if you don't need it - and you don't need to take one ;)
We found it a nice thing to do - and cheaper than doing T-Shirts ;)
No conference t-shirt? :(
Geeko must be about $5 US and a cotton bag must be at least $3 US, for $8US one can buy a t-shirt retail.
The Geekos will not come ouf of the openSUSE budget and thus your numbers do not add up,
OK, but who wants a bag? Don't print one for me and save the money then. If we spend money on stuff that is not desirable/wanted that's just waste. In that case we're better of not having anything. Unless you're producing nice little Netbook bags with a shoulder strap like the bags Novell sponsored for the Linux Collaboration Summit a couple of years ago. But those are definitely more expensive than a t-shirt. I for one like to wear the t-shirts I get at conferences. My $0.02 Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
Hey, On 15.08.2011 15:51, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/15/2011 03:32 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Friday, August 12, 2011 13:02:08 Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/10/2011 03:20 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 17:35:12 Klaas Freitag wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger:
FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference with sponsor logos on it.
Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more hindering than being useful.
A cotton bag can be made very small, if you don't need it - and you don't need to take one ;)
We found it a nice thing to do - and cheaper than doing T-Shirts ;)
No conference t-shirt? :(
Geeko must be about $5 US and a cotton bag must be at least $3 US, for $8US one can buy a t-shirt retail.
The Geekos will not come ouf of the openSUSE budget and thus your numbers do not add up,
OK, but who wants a bag?
I do :)
If we spend money on stuff that is not desirable/wanted that's just waste.
You can neither prove nor disprove if bags are not desired. And it's not about that. It's about what is doable, by whom, for which price... Henne -- Henne Vogelsang http://www.opensuse.org Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
On 08/15/2011 10:00 AM, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hey,
On 15.08.2011 15:51, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/15/2011 03:32 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Friday, August 12, 2011 13:02:08 Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/10/2011 03:20 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 17:35:12 Klaas Freitag wrote:
Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: > FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference > with sponsor logos on it.
Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more hindering than being useful.
A cotton bag can be made very small, if you don't need it - and you don't need to take one ;)
We found it a nice thing to do - and cheaper than doing T-Shirts ;)
No conference t-shirt? :(
Geeko must be about $5 US and a cotton bag must be at least $3 US, for $8US one can buy a t-shirt retail.
The Geekos will not come ouf of the openSUSE budget and thus your numbers do not add up,
OK, but who wants a bag?
I do :)
If we spend money on stuff that is not desirable/wanted that's just waste.
You can neither prove nor disprove if bags are not desired.
That is correct. However, of those that are on this list, 3 have voiced their opinions against bags. My gut feel tells me that the majority of people would prefer a t-shirt over the proposed bag. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 10:05 -0400, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/15/2011 10:00 AM, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hey,
On 15.08.2011 15:51, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/15/2011 03:32 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Friday, August 12, 2011 13:02:08 Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/10/2011 03:20 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 17:35:12 Klaas Freitag wrote: > Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: >> FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference >> with sponsor logos on it. > > Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more > hindering than being useful.
A cotton bag can be made very small, if you don't need it - and you don't need to take one ;)
We found it a nice thing to do - and cheaper than doing T-Shirts ;)
No conference t-shirt? :(
Geeko must be about $5 US and a cotton bag must be at least $3 US, for $8US one can buy a t-shirt retail.
The Geekos will not come ouf of the openSUSE budget and thus your numbers do not add up,
OK, but who wants a bag?
I do :)
If we spend money on stuff that is not desirable/wanted that's just waste.
You can neither prove nor disprove if bags are not desired.
That is correct. However, of those that are on this list, 3 have voiced their opinions against bags. My gut feel tells me that the majority of people would prefer a t-shirt over the proposed bag.
Later, Robert
I would prefer a t-shirt too, but as pointed out that's not budgetable, therefore not up for discussion. And while we do get t-shirts from other conferences, at least most of the FOSS conferences I have been to charge a registration fee and then you get your free t-shirt. The only other time I can think of is where one event was free, but they charged a fee to sell you a t-shirt. That may not be the same everywhere, but at least my experience tells me you never really get a t-shirt for free. There are also challenges with making sure we have an adequate size t-shirt for everyone. Since we did not include a t-shirt question in the registration form, this will prove a nightmare to figure out the right size t-shirt for everyone to have in stock. So, I would propose, before this devolves, to make an actual viable solution proposal. If you want t-shirts, come up with a solution for how to pay for it. Bryen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
On 08/15/2011 10:43 AM, Bryen M. Yunashko wrote:
On Mon, 2011-08-15 at 10:05 -0400, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/15/2011 10:00 AM, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
Hey,
On 15.08.2011 15:51, Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/15/2011 03:32 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote:
On Friday, August 12, 2011 13:02:08 Robert Schweikert wrote:
On 08/10/2011 03:20 AM, Andreas Jaeger wrote: > On Tuesday, August 09, 2011 17:35:12 Klaas Freitag wrote: >> Am Dienstag, 9. August 2011, 16:30:12 schrieb Andreas Jaeger: >>> FYI: We're going to produce cotton bags for the openSUSE conference >>> with sponsor logos on it. >> >> Why do we want to do this? Honestly, these conference bags are more >> hindering than being useful. > > A cotton bag can be made very small, if you don't need it - and you > don't need to take one ;) > > We found it a nice thing to do - and cheaper than doing T-Shirts ;)
No conference t-shirt? :(
Geeko must be about $5 US and a cotton bag must be at least $3 US, for $8US one can buy a t-shirt retail.
The Geekos will not come ouf of the openSUSE budget and thus your numbers do not add up,
OK, but who wants a bag?
I do :)
If we spend money on stuff that is not desirable/wanted that's just waste.
You can neither prove nor disprove if bags are not desired.
That is correct. However, of those that are on this list, 3 have voiced their opinions against bags. My gut feel tells me that the majority of people would prefer a t-shirt over the proposed bag.
Later, Robert
I would prefer a t-shirt too, but as pointed out that's not budgetable, therefore not up for discussion. And while we do get t-shirts from other conferences, at least most of the FOSS conferences I have been to charge a registration fee and then you get your free t-shirt. The only other time I can think of is where one event was free, but they charged a fee to sell you a t-shirt.
That may not be the same everywhere, but at least my experience tells me you never really get a t-shirt for free.
There are also challenges with making sure we have an adequate size t-shirt for everyone. Since we did not include a t-shirt question in the registration form, this will prove a nightmare to figure out the right size t-shirt for everyone to have in stock.
So, I would propose, before this devolves, to make an actual viable solution proposal. If you want t-shirts, come up with a solution for how to pay for it.
As you point out at the beginning of your message, the budget is already spoken for. Therefore, asking for a proposal at this point is a moot point. If there is no money, then there's no money, so be it. In the end it is a question of priorities, and t-shirts were obviously not on the list of priorities. Based on the information presented in the original message it appeared that the money for shirts should be easy to find (see my initial proposal for finding the money, bag money plus geeko money). The information that geeko toys are paid for from a different budget was revealed later. I'll shut up now, sorry I ever said anything. Later, Robert -- Robert Schweikert MAY THE SOURCE BE WITH YOU SUSE-IBM Software Integration Center LINUX Tech Lead rjschwei@suse.com rschweik@ca.ibm.com 781-464-8147 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
Hi, On Mon, 15 Aug 2011, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
OK, but who wants a bag?
I do :)
If we spend money on stuff that is not desirable/wanted that's just waste.
You can neither prove nor disprove if bags are not desired. And it's not about that. It's about what is doable, by whom, for which price...
I trade in my bag for an extra beer then. Ciao, Michael. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
Hey, On 15.08.2011 16:05, Michael Matz wrote:
On Mon, 15 Aug 2011, Henne Vogelsang wrote:
OK, but who wants a bag?
I do :)
If we spend money on stuff that is not desirable/wanted that's just waste.
You can neither prove nor disprove if bags are not desired. And it's not about that. It's about what is doable, by whom, for which price...
I trade in my bag for an extra beer then.
Beer is always doable of course ;-) Henne -- Henne Vogelsang, openSUSE http://www.hennevogel.de Everybody has a plan, until they get hit. - Mike Tyson -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-conference+unsubscribe@opensuse.org For additional commands, e-mail: opensuse-conference+help@opensuse.org
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