On 11.11.2013 13:04, Stephan Kulow wrote: Hi,

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While maybe it's time to invest in new hardware? ...delayed notification is spam-like right? or hermes has been changed to an "archiving" system? Yes, it's time to work on the notification system. It's actually time since quite some years, but nobody did it ;( Now you exaggerate ;-)

regards, Klaas -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

On 12.11.2013 00:51, Marguerite Su wrote:

On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Stephan Kulow wrote:

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* Since the very beginning of this year, I can't receive any notifications on time...eg, I do something on OBS, notifications will arrive one or two days later...even weeks later...And it will always bomb you by sending lots of...I think they may stuck somewhere... It's news to me that this is the generic behaviour - today is special as clearly visible in the statistics graph.

Hi, coolo...

Just trust me... Oh, I'm far from disbelieving hermes being broken - just ask Klaas ;) But that very behaviour is indeed news to me.

http://paste.opensuse.org/82409309 I don't actually spot anything unusual if you ignore that all mails from 7th-11th arrived on 11st, but as I said: that's the exception.

Basically this can help you know the frequency and style Hermes bombs me...

It either don't notify at all, or notify at the same time (sadly I don't know when) no matter when the SRs were actually created.

eg: If I did something at day 1, another something at day 2, those SRs will arrive on day 3 or day 4, at the same time, since the very beginning of this year.

The mail headers of a day 3 mail would be more interesting than your above screenshot.

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* I can't receive any notification about SRs against my repository...eg: someone SRed to M17N:fonts...I can't be aware of it until I login through web UI...same thing happened to my rejected requests and accepted requests made by others...well the only type of SR among such "response needed" types I can receive is the "review request". * I always receive two emails telling me about same thing at the same time: ** One is for status change, while the other is just a copy of it. ** One tells me there is a request, while the other tells me I've already accepted it. (should they arrive at the same time?)

You really need to check your subscriptions.

Well...is this normal setting?

http://paste.opensuse.org/25243677

You are subscribed twice to requests - once if they are created and once in general. And that's the way hermes works, two subscriptions mean two mails ;( Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

On Tuesday 2013-11-12 09:00, Stephan Kulow wrote:

OK, your domain resolves to an (for hermes unreachable) IPV6 address

connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4001:c02::1a]:25: Network is unreachable

Hurr. Did that happen to all IPv6-reachable targets? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

Stephan Kulow writes:

OK, your domain resolves to an (for hermes unreachable) IPV6 address

connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4001:c02::1a]:25: Network is unreachable

It should fall back to the IPv4 address without error. (Once the IPv6 support in Nürnberg is complete this will be moot anyway.) Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

Stephan Kulow writes:

On 12.11.2013 09:57, Andreas Schwab wrote:

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Stephan Kulow writes:

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OK, your domain resolves to an (for hermes unreachable) IPV6 address

connect to gmail-smtp-in.l.google.com[2a00:1450:4001:c02::1a]:25: Network is unreachable

It should fall back to the IPv4 address without error. Don't tell me what it should do, tell postfix about IPv6 ;(

Have you considered filing a bug? Andreas. -- Andreas Schwab, SUSE Labs, schwab@suse.de GPG Key fingerprint = 0196 BAD8 1CE9 1970 F4BE 1748 E4D4 88E3 0EEA B9D7 "And now for something completely different." -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

On 12.11.2013 10:32, Marguerite Su wrote:

Luckily this time notifications arrive "on time" (at least for me considering what I've suffered...):

http://paste.opensuse.org/62561548

They came to me at 5:13 GMT+0800, which means GMT 9:13...

But note: these SRs were accepted 6:45...

Where's our missing 2 and a half hours...:-)

This morning I found another bug that causes mail delays. It basically throttled the notification output - and if a lot of things build the notifications get backqueued. This queue was meanwhile so long that it was noticable in my inbox. Let's see if this improves now. Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 4:07 PM, Stephan Kulow wrote:

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This morning I found another bug that causes mail delays. It basically throttled the notification output - and if a lot of things build the notifications get backqueued. This queue was meanwhile so long that it was noticable in my inbox. Let's see if this improves now.

OK, to me the situation looks much better this morning - how is your inbox looking like? :)

Greetings, Stephan

Ha...I didn't submit any SR since you said you were upgrading OBS... And I'm writing a new thread about an OBS bug... Wait a minute.. Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

Quoting Stephan Kulow :

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http://paste.opensuse.org/82409309 I don't actually spot anything unusual if you ignore that all mails from 7th-11th arrived on 11st, but as I said: that's the exception.

Honestly, an exception that happened multiple time over the last few weeks (I did not keep track on often it was asked on -buildservice IRC channel or how often I asked Darix about it). But in general, it's usable.. @coolo: what does 'fixing' it temporarily mean: rebooting the box? restarting the server? Black magic at each occurrence? Maybe it could at least be monitored and automatic action be triggered (I know, it does not fix the problem/cause, but at least it works around the after-effects). Dominique -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

On Tue, Nov 12, 2013 at 3:54 PM, Stephan Kulow wrote:

On 12.11.2013 00:51, Marguerite Su wrote:

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On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 8:04 PM, Stephan Kulow wrote:

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* Since the very beginning of this year, I can't receive any notifications on time...eg, I do something on OBS, notifications will arrive one or two days later...even weeks later...And it will always bomb you by sending lots of...I think they may stuck somewhere... It's news to me that this is the generic behaviour - today is special as clearly visible in the statistics graph.

Hi, coolo...

Just trust me... Oh, I'm far from disbelieving hermes being broken - just ask Klaas ;) But that very behaviour is indeed news to me.

http://paste.opensuse.org/82409309 I don't actually spot anything unusual if you ignore that all mails from 7th-11th arrived on 11st, but as I said: that's the exception.

Yes, I understand it's an exception...I wasn't trolling... I just wanted to show the "style"...eg: one day you knew you didn't do anything on OBS, but hermes gave you a list of such SRs in this screenshot...

The mail headers of a day 3 mail would be more interesting than your above screenshot.

Ha...I think I was stupid...I thought it was normal so I deleted those SRs when they came... But I'm still able to test :-) eg: Today I forwarded 3 SRs to Factory: brise, fcitx-cloudpinyin, googletest. They're accepted on 2013-11-12T06:47:18, 2013-11-12T06:46:20, 2013-11-12T06:45:13 And now it's GMT 08:29:43, I still didn't get any notification about them... So I think maybe a few hours or days later, I'll be able to provide such weird screenshots...

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You really need to check your subscriptions.

Well...is this normal setting?

http://paste.opensuse.org/25243677

You are subscribed twice to requests - once if they are created and once in general. And that's the way hermes works, two subscriptions mean two mails ;(

Ha...I understand...I subscribled for my two roles, one as packager (myself), one as repo maintainer (my role taken). so those 2 SRs are actually one for me and one for my role. Greetings Marguerite -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

Am 22.11.2013 15:49, schrieb Ruediger Meier:

On Monday 11 November 2013, Marguerite Su wrote:

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Hi...

Today hermes sent me 14 emails about submit-requests and accept messages from myself at the same time 6:16pm...while those activities actually happened two days ago.

Currently I'm also missing again a lot build failure emails and at least one accepted sr mail.

And you can exclude your mail filters as problem? Greetings, Stephan -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org

Am Freitag, 22. November 2013, 17:04:14 schrieb Dominique Leuenberger a.k.a. Dimstar:

Quoting Stephan Kulow :

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Am 22.11.2013 15:49, schrieb Ruediger Meier:

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On Monday 11 November 2013, Marguerite Su wrote:

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Hi...

Today hermes sent me 14 emails about submit-requests and accept messages from myself at the same time 6:16pm...while those activities actually happened two days ago.

Currently I'm also missing again a lot build failure emails and at least one accepted sr mail.

And you can exclude your mail filters as problem?

I confirm seeing the same.... so unlike Ruediger manages my mail filters too, we can likely exclude this :)

Dominique

Confirming the same. The last hermes mails I got were sent Wednesday this week... -- Aeneas Jaißle » e: aj@ajaissle.de Sent using Kontact and Kolab on openSUSE -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+unsubscribe@opensuse.org To contact the owner, e-mail: opensuse-buildservice+owner@opensuse.org